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Quote from: TheNineClub on July 28, 2021, 05:56:29 AM

So are we just ignoring that Dillon Danis issued a call for an MMA fight with John Wayne Parr XD Danis cracks me up, but I always wondered what pays his bills, cuz he ain't getting any money from fights. Anyway thought this was funny, however, JWP has been linked with Dan Hardy for an MT fight, and that's much more interesting.

His is with Conor McGregor gang, he pays Dillon bills Cheesy

He is so called "bjj and grappling trainer" of McGregor. Cheesy

Dillon Danis spends a lot of time with celebrities, maybe he gets money from them ? Or he gets money from "ba dum tssss" - crypto !

Ah, I was just making a dab here. He could have inherited all his money for all I know and not have to work a day in his life.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on July 29, 2021, 04:26:37 AM

He sure spouts a lot on Twitter, and yes greeting Dana White on his birthday, with a picture on top maybe it is just a move to get Dana White's attention to set up a road for his debut in UFC, and his 2 fights on Bellator was a 100% win with Submission moves with the two guys that don't really have a good record in my opinion,

And maybe he is getting his money with Cryptocurrency he is sure public about getting into investing with a gambling Shiba or something, and he is getting some moves on Dana White to get his attention-getting on with UFC.

He's trying to force himself in the conversation and it just ain't working. Not sure what his end goal is, but it seems he's just clueless on how to succeed without actually fighting. Seems he doesn't hve the brains to be an internet celeb or the chops to be an admirable fighter so...

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 29, 2021, 07:52:26 AM

^ Here’s one likely thing that I think could happen. Strickland throws the volume and leads the early rounds and gets caught by Hall later in the match. And 2.75 for Hall? That’s a good line imo. No way am I laying the chalk with Strickland at 1.47 even if I think he wins.

But as a safer bet, I’d go for the under. Stickland could bring the violence too.

Not sure I'm convinced that Strickland could get Uriah out of there, but I can certaingly see it happening the other way around, and its probably the bet I'll be making on the night. Uriah can definitely bang, that's for sure. I can't believe those odds though, that's crazy what am I missing?

Quote from: notblox1 on July 29, 2021, 03:38:42 PM

I really don't understand this low odds for Sean Strickland to win against Uriah Hall.
Both of them are in good form and Uriah Hall have 3 inch reach advantage and he has much better striking accuracy, but Strickland is better in grappling category.
Majority of wins for Uriah Hall are done by KO or TKO so we can expect to see interesting fight and clash of styles.

Strickland is more than capable of picking his shots, and beating Uriah. However, with his weakness in grappling I'd say Uriah could easily get him down to the floor, and then like I said before I'd fancy a ground, and pound victory for Uriah.

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I really don't understand this low odds for Sean Strickland to win against Uriah Hall.
Both of them are in good form and Uriah Hall have 3 inch reach advantage and he has much better striking accuracy, but Strickland is better in grappling category.
Majority of wins for Uriah Hall are done by KO or TKO so we can expect to see interesting fight and clash of styles.

You can now watch media live stream for Hall vs Strickland or rewatch it later for fighter you are interested: https://youtu.be/fZ-I8js7ajI

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^ Here’s one likely thing that I think could happen. Strickland throws the volume and leads the early rounds and gets caught by Hall later in the match. And 2.75 for Hall? That’s a good line imo. No way am I laying the chalk with Strickland at 1.47 even if I think he wins.

But as a safer bet, I’d go for the under. Stickland could bring the violence too.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 27, 2021, 05:18:32 PM

Here’s the thing with the main event tho, Strickland is chinny and doesn’t shoot a lot of TD’s. So for how his current is line is right now, it’s not worth it imo. And Hall’s weakness is being taken down.

Yeah, Strickland has done well since coming back, but he hasn't really been tested all that much. Uriah will test him, and while Strickland has some very slick punches, Uriah if he ever gets in trouble will go for the take down, and probably get it. This could just be a war of attrition, and Uriah wins by control time or Uriah knocks him out probably via ground, and pound. I think Strickland could probably out strike Uriah in the stand up, but we haven't seen him perform well on the ground, and Uriah needs to recognize that early, and just take him down, wear him out so that at least if he can't get him out of there he will stay safe himself, and will wear down Strickland to the point where he won't have much left in the gas tank to actually throw punches.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 28, 2021, 03:32:08 PM

Quote from: TheNineClub on July 28, 2021, 05:56:29 AM

So are we just ignoring that Dillon Danis issued a call for an MMA fight with John Wayne Parr XD Danis cracks me up, but I always wondered what pays his bills, cuz he ain't getting any money from fights. Anyway thought this was funny, however, JWP has been linked with Dan Hardy for an MT fight, and that's much more interesting.

Oh that Dillon guy is almost slimy as his buddy Conor McGregor, but Conor was much better fighter once upon a time, now he is just a rich millionaire with broken leg and ego.
I just checked his twitter account and he publicly congratulated Dana White his birthday, so maybe he is dreaming of getting back to UFC

Just a reminder that his last fight was in Bellator back in 2019...

He sure spouts a lot on Twitter, and yes greeting Dana White on his birthday, with a picture on top maybe it is just a move to get Dana White's attention to set up a road for his debut in UFC, and his 2 fights on Bellator was a 100% win with Submission moves with the two guys that don't really have a good record in my opinion,

And maybe he is getting his money with Cryptocurrency he is sure public about getting into investing with a gambling Shiba or something, and he is getting some moves on Dana White to get his attention-getting on with UFC.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on July 28, 2021, 05:56:29 AM

So are we just ignoring that Dillon Danis issued a call for an MMA fight with John Wayne Parr XD Danis cracks me up, but I always wondered what pays his bills, cuz he ain't getting any money from fights. Anyway thought this was funny, however, JWP has been linked with Dan Hardy for an MT fight, and that's much more interesting.

Oh that Dillon guy is almost slimy as his buddy Conor McGregor, but Conor was much better fighter once upon a time, now he is just a rich millionaire with broken leg and ego.
I just checked his twitter account and he publicly congratulated Dana White his birthday, so maybe he is dreaming of getting back to UFC

Just a reminder that his last fight was in Bellator back in 2019...

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Quote from: TheNineClub on July 28, 2021, 05:56:29 AM

So are we just ignoring that Dillon Danis issued a call for an MMA fight with John Wayne Parr XD Danis cracks me up, but I always wondered what pays his bills, cuz he ain't getting any money from fights. Anyway thought this was funny, however, JWP has been linked with Dan Hardy for an MT fight, and that's much more interesting.

His is with Conor McGregor gang, he pays Dillon bills Cheesy

He is so called "bjj and grappling trainer" of McGregor. Cheesy

Dillon Danis spends a lot of time with celebrities, maybe he gets money from them ? Or he gets money from "ba dum tssss" - crypto !

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So are we just ignoring that Dillon Danis issued a call for an MMA fight with John Wayne Parr XD Danis cracks me up, but I always wondered what pays his bills, cuz he ain't getting any money from fights. Anyway thought this was funny, however, JWP has been linked with Dan Hardy for an MT fight, and that's much more interesting.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 26, 2021, 09:25:04 AM

^ Again.. I said it could’ve gone either way. If the judges watch the exact same fight next week with it being fought exactly the same, the judges could give the W to Sandhagen. It was just that close that you can’t say that it was a robbery.

Anyway, who you guys got for the next event?

Well, you are right the fight was really close, but I'll be bias with Sandhagen on the 5th round I really think that he totally dominated Dillashaw in that round only,

Right now, I am still torn on who I am going to pick, with Uriah Hall or Sean Strickland but maybe Uriah Hall has the edge for me, but it can change depends on my research, the Co-main is an interesting fight as well that I need to look up first, and for the Preliminary the Ashley Yoder VS Jinh Yu Frey could be a delight to behold, so I will sure put my nose on that fight, I will post immediately what I think and will be my pick.

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Here’s the thing with the main event tho, Strickland is chinny and doesn’t shoot a lot of TD’s. So for how his current is line is right now, it’s not worth it imo. And Hall’s weakness is being taken down.

Vids to watch... I’m kinda leaning Hall and the under here.

UFC Free Fight: Strickland vs Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiVkcyrCRFU

UFC Free Fight: Hall vs Silva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBpnhpj9fvM

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Interesting new four-fight contract signing for UFC is Mike Mathetha 'Blood Diamond', he is Israel Adesanya teammate and coming from kickboxing background.
He is a member of New Zealand, Auckland’s City Kickboxing and originally coming from Zimbabwe, Africa and has a record of 3-0 in MMA smaller organizations, but he is much more experienced in kickboxing with over 60 fights and more than 50 wins.
Other notable fighters who trained at City Kickboxing are Alexander Volkanovski, Kai Kara, Dan Hooker, Shane Young, Brad Riddell, Carlos Ulberg, Jacob Malkoun so it will be interesting to see Blood Diamond in UFC.
His weight class is probably going to be welterweight with and his height is 5'11 inches or 180cm.

Here is Blood Diamond talking for MMA Fighting in 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3LkIMEttk

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on July 27, 2021, 06:13:19 AM

^ He's lacking the fight IQ I guess?

He could have won the TUF finale against Gastelum. He had him curled up on the ground and all he had to do is pounce but I don't know what he was thinking when he allowed Kevin to get up. This was just at the top of my head (I was trying to search their fight on YT but couldn't find it).

Pfuu...I mean it could be that, but I never really saw it like that. We can maybe attribute it to a couple of factors like Fight IQ, an inadequate skill set, and just not having that ''edge'' that would take him just over the edge. But those things, unfortunately, can't be solved.

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^ He's lacking the fight IQ I guess?

He could have won the TUF finale against Gastelum. He had him curled up on the ground and all he had to do is pounce but I don't know what he was thinking when he allowed Kevin to get up. This was just at the top of my head (I was trying to search their fight on YT but couldn't find it).

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 26, 2021, 06:42:26 AM

Uriah Hall has been always "a bit better than average" fighter. As it he always lack something small to win. Like his skill of fighting is always for 1 point lower than his opponents.
I agree that it is always exciting to watch him fighting, as he either TKO/KO his opponent, or gets TKOed/KOed Cheesy

Stability ! Anyway, if he wins, I think next time he will get Jack Hermansson or Derek Brunson next.

Yeah, I have to agree on that. Always a bridesmaid never a bride XD From the TUF days under Sonnen, he seemed like he's really good but there's just something missing to complete the picture. Maybe he finally got his mojo going, but we will see. Anyway, I don't see him ever being a champ, but I would like to see him as a threat in the upper echelons.

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Yeah, what I was alluding to by saying it was ruined by bad judges it was more the fights before the main event, i.e the Barber decision. I had her losing the first two rounds, pretty convincingly to be honest, and then winning convincingly on the third round. I thought it was ludicrous that she got that win. The Sandhagen VS TJ fight was pretty close, and depending on how you look at it TJ was pressuring the whole fight, had a lot of control time albeit it was up against the cage, and attempting a lot of takedowns, although I believe it was something like a 13% success rate sometime late on in the fight. So, I would probably give Sandhagen the credit there for his defense.

I personally didn't like the control time on the fence, since TJ wasn't advancing position or doing any damage there. Instead, he held Sandhagen there until Sandhagen eventually was able to break the hands every time. Then, it would be largely back to Sandhagen scoring more clean hits than TJ.

TJ did better than I expected though, didn't show any signs of rustiness.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 26, 2021, 09:25:04 AM

^ Again.. I said it could’ve gone either way. If the judges watch the exact same fight next week with it being fought exactly the same, the judges could give the W to Sandhagen. It was just that close that you can’t say that it was a robbery.

May be but it was a really close fight and it depends upon which judges scores the fight, if the same judges scores the fight then i am not expecting anything different from what they did the last time. Cory Sandhagen and T.J. Dillashaw needs to rematch and hopefully the UFC will make that happen unless T.J. Dillashaw rejects that proposal because he is demanding a title fight next.

Quote from: tokeweed on July 26, 2021, 09:25:04 AM

Anyway, who you guys got for the next event?

Uriah Hall and Sean Strickland as the main event and it is difficult to predict as Uriah Hall is always unpredictably but still going with Sean Strickland to win the fight.

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^ Again.. I said it could’ve gone either way. If the judges watch the exact same fight next week with it being fought exactly the same, the judges could give the W to Sandhagen. It was just that close that you can’t say that it was a robbery.

Anyway, who you guys got for the next event?

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 25, 2021, 08:56:01 AM

^ Sandhagen threw the more solid shots but the match itself could’ve gone either way. So no bad judging there. But I can’t the same for Barber. I had it for Maverick 29 - 28... The Paiva one was back and forth too. I haven’t checked but I think either that or the main event is fight of the night.

... Next event is kinda meh. But looking forward to Chris Daukas and Danny Chavez.

Even though I don't like the outcome, I still think that Dillashaw also did his best and could also win that fight, well that is the judge's decision and just like what I have said the judge might not see any nook and crannies of the fight that is why some have favored Dillashaw more than Sandhagen,

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 25, 2021, 10:35:56 PM

@notblox1. However, T.J. Dillashaw’s takedowns did not do harm on Cory Sandhagen. I thought Cory won that fight, however, the judges in Las Vegas that night clearly were not watching the fight intently hehehe. I reckon next will be T.J. versus the winner of Aljamain versus Yan.

I also think that the judge doesn't wear any glasses that night to doesn't spot all given strikes of Cory Sanhagen mostly on the 5th round, that is why I really feel Sandhagen's frustration after the announcement of who really won, that was pretty much all for Cory Sandhagen per se but we can not take out that the judges might see something on Dillashaw's performance that we didn't see.

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Uriah Hall has been always "a bit better than average" fighter. As it he always lack something small to win. Like his skill of fighting is always for 1 point lower than his opponents.
I agree that it is always exciting to watch him fighting, as he either TKO/KO his opponent, or gets TKOed/KOed Cheesy

Stability ! Anyway, if he wins, I think next time he will get Jack Hermansson or Derek Brunson next.

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