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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 08, 2021, 01:02:57 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on August 04, 2021, 04:29:46 AM

LOL TopTort777 You really think the Bon Gamin could become tired before Derrick Lewis? Cheesy

You're kidding us, aren't you? Did you compare the shape of Cyril Gane and the one of Derrick Lewis? One could run a marathon, the other hardly 5000m obviously...
I think the exact opposite actually, Gane will defend and control during the 2 first rounds and in the middle of the third round he will accelerate and attack Lewis.

As expected the Bon Gamin followed the more logical game plan available like a good schoolboy and easily finished an exhausted "fat beast" in the middle of the 3rd round. I really appreciated how he steadily remained cautious, fleeing like a coward several times, despite all the audience against him. Grin

Dan Miragliotta has been very professional and he didn't let the exhausted beast catch his breath after having drop his mouthguard during the final assault of Gane.

What a great performance for Cyril Gane he surely delivers a dominating performance and what I like about it was Cyril Gane's Job controlling Lewis from the distance, and pinpointing Derrick Lewis eye, hurting Derrick Lewis, perfect performance for the Bon Gaming, Delivering an Elbow and uppercut that really stun Lewis to backup, and I think Cyril Gane really has the power to hurt Lewis, even though he didn't show this in Volkov's fight I was really amazing in what I have witnessed, and Derrick Lewis is not really catching up I could really see a skill gap between Derrick Lewis and Cyril Gane, and that Running away, is part of Gane's plan, just like what the Style Bender was doing, That When in doubt he is surely Running away, I really think this is not an act of cowardness but using his speed over Lewis.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 08, 2021, 04:44:08 AM

If I had any doubts before about Cyril Gane than I don't have them anymore and he now fully deserved to fight for heavyweight belt with Francis Ngannou.
It is not easy to defeat Lewis with such KO style but he did it and France have new interim champion!
Ngannou sent him a message: See you soon boy, and Dana White confirmed this is perfect script for Francis Ngannou vs Ciryl Gane.

It was a great game plan by Ciryl Gane and it is a perfect match up against Francis Ngannou as the former coach of Francis Ngannou is the present coach of Ciryl Gane and what kind of game plan he will be using against him as they will be knowing his weakness and how Ngannou will be countering them..

Surprising performance was from Jose Aldo as i had no idea what kind of performance to expect from him but he clearly won the fight against Pedro Munhoz and the leg kicks of Aldo was paying dividends later on in the fight.

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If I had any doubts before about Cyril Gane than I don't have them anymore and he now fully deserved to fight for heavyweight belt with Francis Ngannou.
It is not easy to defeat Lewis with such KO style but he did it and France have new interim champion!
Ngannou sent him a message: See you soon boy, and Dana White confirmed this is perfect script for Francis Ngannou vs Ciryl Gane.

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Quote from: cabron on August 08, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

I couldn't see any significant hit by Derrick, you only see the frustration on his face when he can't takedown Gane and then gave up. The leg kicks are just too much for Derrick to bear and then he got tired quickly. Very smart of Gane to run away when Derrick is about to launch, It is funny but running must be the best option there.

Well, he doesn't want to end up like Curtis and his strategy worked out for him. It could be boring but nothing wrong with sticking to strategies to get the W.

Quote from: cabron on August 08, 2021, 01:32:43 AM

Gane might still not be enough to fight Ngannou. Francis is just too much of a beast.

Ngannou probably has the same gas tank as Lewis. Not fully engaging in the first two rounds and just tire him out could still work against him.

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However, the best storyline is Cyril Gane winner. Francis Ngannou and him were teammates before Ngannou left the team. Ngannou also blamed their coach after his loss in his first fight versus Stipe Miocic.

Yeah that would be a good rivalry to build on and which the UFC can milk Grin

I just wanted Lewis' UFC journey to end up in a belt even if it's interim. I think this is the closest he could get and probably his best/only chance. I didn't expect him to be in this position to be honest.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 08, 2021, 01:31:50 AM

I wanted Lewis to win for the sake of a good story line but Gane was just too good for him. I'm glad I didn't bet on this one because of my personal bias Grin

Now, waiting for Ngannou vs. Gane as I'm pretty sure that's what everyone wants to see now. Jones vs. Gane or Jones vs. Miocic would be exciting to see as well.

What do you think of Aldo's performance? I thought he rolled back the years.

However, the best storyline is Cyril Gane winner. Francis Ngannou and him were teammates before Ngannou left the team. Ngannou also blamed their coach after his loss in his first fight versus Stipe Miocic.

In any case, did everyone see Gane after the fight and after receiving the belt? Gane appears to love his coach like a father. Francis Ngannou must be training already hehehehe. This will be a fight for honor.

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I couldn't see any significant hit by Derrick, you only see the frustration on his face when he can't takedown Gane and then gave up. The leg kicks are just too much for Derrick to bear and then he got tired quickly. Very smart of Gane to run away when Derrick is about to launch, It is funny but running must be the best option there.
Gane might still not be enough to fight Ngannou. Francis is just too much of a beast.

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I wanted Lewis to win for the sake of a good story line but Gane was just too good for him. I'm glad I didn't bet on this one because of my personal bias Grin

Now, waiting for Ngannou vs. Gane as I'm pretty sure that's what everyone wants to see now. Jones vs. Gane or Jones vs. Miocic would be exciting to see as well.

What do you think of Aldo's performance? I thought he rolled back the years.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 04, 2021, 04:29:46 AM

LOL TopTort777 You really think the Bon Gamin could become tired before Derrick Lewis? Cheesy

You're kidding us, aren't you? Did you compare the shape of Cyril Gane and the one of Derrick Lewis? One could run a marathon, the other hardly 5000m obviously...
I think the exact opposite actually, Gane will defend and control during the 2 first rounds and in the middle of the third round he will accelerate and attack Lewis.

As expected the Bon Gamin followed the more logical game plan available like a good schoolboy and easily finished an exhausted "fat beast" in the middle of the 3rd round. I really appreciated how he steadily remained cautious, fleeing like a coward several times, despite all the audience against him. Grin

Dan Miragliotta has been very professional and he didn't let the exhausted beast catch his breath after having drop his mouthguard during the final assault of Gane.

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Odds on Lewis are still high but they dropped from initial odds and I think it's worth of betting few sats on him, enjoy the fight and potential high returns.
Don't miss Kape vs Osbourne from early prelims that promises to be interesting fight, and same thing for Green vs Fiziev.

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Well, I am still not closing the idea that Ode Osbourne could beat Kape aswell, but for me, before I pick a fighter that I think could win, I would visualize what may happen inside the ring, and after watching many video highlights in how they will fight inside the ring, In the case of Kape fighting Nicolau, there is an instance that he might gas out that time, well some fighters of players would gas out or sometimes needs a timeout for a short breather, and sometimes even fighters with a lot of stamina could suddenly gas out with them wondering why.

That Derrick Lewis really has a lot of weight than Ciryl Gane, I think that Gane will surely have a hard time wrestling out Lewis.

You have a interesting technique of visualizing who is going to win that is a popular technique for fighters to do before they step into the ring/cage I have never heard of a person betting to use that technique.

Ciryl Gane is the future champion and I do not think that Derrick Lewis has the skill to land a big punch on Ciryl Gane. I watched the highlights of Derrick Lewis finishes last night and I am not impressed by them. I think he was lucky to land his punch on Curtis Bladyes and Ciryl Gane has better head movement than Bladyes.

I never see this kind of thing as a technique I don't know I am just visualizing what may happen because I am watching the recent highlights and recent fights and turn that as a picture of what may that fighter do, but this is not really 100% accurate there are times that I am losing so much I will just base that because of their recent fights, and well I may be using this on betting but as I said it is not really accurate,

and just like you, I am really fond of Cyril Gane and as I am visualizing their fight might turn out just like you Gane will not let the fatal attacks hurt him, there might be an instance that Derrick Lewis may land a strike but Cyril Gane will surely not let the fatal ones land him and Cyril Gane just like the style bender can calculate what is his next move or what to do inside the ring.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 07, 2021, 03:51:59 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on August 06, 2021, 11:35:11 AM

^ I don’t blame you and I agree with everything you said. But I don’t see why Kape is a 2 to 1 favorite in this spot. I wouldn’t lay chalk on Kape after seeing him slow down vs Nicolau. His cardio could be suspect. And I like that Osbourne really fights for your money.

Here are the weigh in results. Everybody made weight.

Derrick Lewis (264.5) vs. Ciryl Gane (247)

Well, I am still not closing the idea that Ode Osbourne could beat Kape aswell, but for me, before I pick a fighter that I think could win, I would visualize what may happen inside the ring, and after watching many video highlights in how they will fight inside the ring, In the case of Kape fighting Nicolau, there is an instance that he might gas out that time, well some fighters of players would gas out or sometimes needs a timeout for a short breather, and sometimes even fighters with a lot of stamina could suddenly gas out with them wondering why.

That Derrick Lewis really has a lot of weight than Ciryl Gane, I think that Gane will surely have a hard time wrestling out Lewis.

I think if Kape goes all out and has higher output than his last two matches then def Kape could win. My comment was more of a fade on Kape at 1.45 cos of what he showed in his last two matches. I was high on him entering the UFC. Now I’m not too sure. But as safe bet, fight doesn’t go to decision is prolly the best.

I like the under 4.5 with the main event. Lewis’ matches never finished when he lost and a lot of his wins didn’t go the distance.

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Ciryl Gane is the future champion and I do not think that Derrick Lewis has the skill to land a big punch on Ciryl Gane. I watched the highlights of Derrick Lewis finishes last night and I am not impressed by them. I think he was lucky to land his punch on Curtis Bladyes and Ciryl Gane has better head movement than Bladyes.

Majority are picking Ciryl Gane to win the fight and become the Interim Heavyweight champion and even if he wins this one he needs to face Francis Ngannou to be the future champion and then the rumors of Jon Jones coming to the Heavyweight division and if he wants to holds the belt this is the best opportunity and so is the situation with Derrick Lewis, his fighting style and his out of shape body will fool many and one punch could knock anyone out in the division.

My picks for the event are Melissa Gatto to win by submission, Miles Johns, would like to see Karolina Kowalkiewicz win but Jessica Penne could win the decision, Rafael Fiziev, Song Yadong, Angela Hill, Michael Chiesa, Derrick Lewis and Ciryl Gane will not go the distance.

I don't see Bones coming to HW for Gane. He wants Francis because Francis has the appeal to bring in fans that will buy PPVs. No one on this goddamn earth besides some of us die hard fans have ever heard of Gane. There is really nothing Gane would offer in terms of popularity in that matchup.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on August 07, 2021, 06:35:04 AM

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Ciryl Gane is the future champion and I do not think that Derrick Lewis has the skill to land a big punch on Ciryl Gane. I watched the highlights of Derrick Lewis finishes last night and I am not impressed by them. I think he was lucky to land his punch on Curtis Bladyes and Ciryl Gane has better head movement than Bladyes.

Majority are picking Ciryl Gane to win the fight and become the Interim Heavyweight champion and even if he wins this one he needs to face Francis Ngannou to be the future champion and then the rumors of Jon Jones coming to the Heavyweight division and if he wants to holds the belt this is the best opportunity and so is the situation with Derrick Lewis, his fighting style and his out of shape body will fool many and one punch could knock anyone out in the division.

My picks for the event are Melissa Gatto to win by submission, Miles Johns, would like to see Karolina Kowalkiewicz win but Jessica Penne could win the decision, Rafael Fiziev, Song Yadong, Angela Hill, Michael Chiesa, Derrick Lewis and Ciryl Gane will not go the distance.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 07, 2021, 03:51:59 AM

Well, I am still not closing the idea that Ode Osbourne could beat Kape aswell, but for me, before I pick a fighter that I think could win, I would visualize what may happen inside the ring, and after watching many video highlights in how they will fight inside the ring, In the case of Kape fighting Nicolau, there is an instance that he might gas out that time, well some fighters of players would gas out or sometimes needs a timeout for a short breather, and sometimes even fighters with a lot of stamina could suddenly gas out with them wondering why.

That Derrick Lewis really has a lot of weight than Ciryl Gane, I think that Gane will surely have a hard time wrestling out Lewis.

You have a interesting technique of visualizing who is going to win that is a popular technique for fighters to do before they step into the ring/cage I have never heard of a person betting to use that technique.

Ciryl Gane is the future champion and I do not think that Derrick Lewis has the skill to land a big punch on Ciryl Gane. I watched the highlights of Derrick Lewis finishes last night and I am not impressed by them. I think he was lucky to land his punch on Curtis Bladyes and Ciryl Gane has better head movement than Bladyes.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 06, 2021, 11:35:11 AM

^ I don’t blame you and I agree with everything you said. But I don’t see why Kape is a 2 to 1 favorite in this spot. I wouldn’t lay chalk on Kape after seeing him slow down vs Nicolau. His cardio could be suspect. And I like that Osbourne really fights for your money.

Here are the weigh in results. Everybody made weight.

Derrick Lewis (264.5) vs. Ciryl Gane (247)

Well, I am still not closing the idea that Ode Osbourne could beat Kape aswell, but for me, before I pick a fighter that I think could win, I would visualize what may happen inside the ring, and after watching many video highlights in how they will fight inside the ring, In the case of Kape fighting Nicolau, there is an instance that he might gas out that time, well some fighters of players would gas out or sometimes needs a timeout for a short breather, and sometimes even fighters with a lot of stamina could suddenly gas out with them wondering why.

That Derrick Lewis really has a lot of weight than Ciryl Gane, I think that Gane will surely have a hard time wrestling out Lewis.

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Kowalkiewicz might get cut if she loses this one, which might actually play a part in the fight. She might be a little more motivated than she has previously, since its never a good idea to amount a big loss streak in the UFC. Unless, your Conor Mcgregor of course Cheesy

I've got most of my women match ups correct recently, except for the type of win, as I usually go for decisions, but there's been quite a few finishes as of recent. That's why I've put a TKO in for Penne.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 06, 2021, 01:19:43 PM

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In my opinion, this will be an easy win for Penne. After such an injury and such a long break, Kowalkiewicz will certainly not be able to mentally handle this fight. I think it's gonna be easy money betting on Penne.

Gone for a finish by her. I didn't check her outright win odds, but I imagine its pretty dire in terms of return.

Kowalkiewicz seems to be happy to be back and says in interviews that she went through the training period very intensively. She may be physically prepared very well, but I'm afraid that after three lost fights and one with such a serious injury, she will not be able to bear this fight mentally. Penne is also tired of her long career, but I think her experience will win this fight.

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Honestly, some of these predictions I've got listed below are a coin toss for me. I think there's some close fights mixed in, and the one I'm really not feeling confident for, but looking forward to watching is the Cassey Kennedy vs Song Yadong fight. I think it has the potential to be the fight of the night.

Derrick Lewis (TKO)
Jose Aldo (Decision)
Michael Chiesa
ecia Torres (decision)
Song Yadong
Bobby Green
Vince Morales
Alonzo Menifield
Jessica Penne (TKO)
Manel Kape
Anderson Dos Santos

Quote from: Naficopa on August 06, 2021, 11:39:38 AM

In my opinion, this will be an easy win for Penne. After such an injury and such a long break, Kowalkiewicz will certainly not be able to mentally handle this fight. I think it's gonna be easy money betting on Penne.

Gone for a finish by her. I didn't check her outright win odds, but I imagine its pretty dire in terms of return.

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What do you think about this fight: Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115) vs. Jessica Penne (116) ?

In my opinion, this will be an easy win for Penne. After such an injury and such a long break, Kowalkiewicz will certainly not be able to mentally handle this fight. I think it's gonna be easy money betting on Penne.

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^ I don’t blame you and I agree with everything you said. But I don’t see why Kape is a 2 to 1 favorite in this spot. I wouldn’t lay chalk on Kape after seeing him slow down vs Nicolau. His cardio could be suspect. And I like that Osbourne really fights for your money.

Here are the weigh in results. Everybody made weight.

Derrick Lewis (264.5) vs. Ciryl Gane (247)
Jose Aldo (136) vs. Pedro Munhoz (135)
Michael Chiesa (170.5) vs. Vicente Luque (170)
Angela Hill (115) vs. Tecia Torres (115)
Casey Kenney (136) vs. Song Yadong (135.5)
Rafael Fiziev (155.5) vs. Bobby Green (156)
Vince Morales (136) vs. Drako Rodriguez (136)
Ed Herman (205.5) vs. Alonzo Menifield (204.5)
Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115) vs. Jessica Penne (116)
Manel Kape (129) vs. Ode Osbourne (125)
Anderson Dos Santos (135.5) vs. Miles Johns (136)
Melissa Gatto (124) vs. Victoria Leonardo (125)
Johnny Munoz (135.5) vs. Jamey Simmons (136)

Ceremonial weigh ins happening live in 5 hours or so.

UFC 265: Ceremonial Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr7I-B5Zn8M

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