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It is a strange result of what happened with the fights it seems like there is a bias with the Main event but the Co-main event was won by Jose Aldo Smoothly

Alexandre Pantoja VS Steve Erceg

It seems that Steve Erceg is something Alexandre Pantoja's nightmare it was a close match but a very controversial match just because the champion was fighting on his home turf the judges will get the scoring incorrect that is right I have said that Alexander Pantoja could win this one but apparently I was wrong he surely wins but what I saw was a complete robbery as Pantoja does have a cut this means that Steve Erceg really is something not to take lightly and that he has an effective striking than Pantoja and not only that I saw some slick grappling from Alexandre Pantoja and even though Erceg does not win this fight for me he is great and in the future, he might get this belt next.

Jonathan Martinez VS José Aldo

That was still a master-class performance for Jose Aldo and I was really wrong about him Jonathan Martinez is still a Newbie and needs a real beating and I think it is a good thing that Aldo was the one he is fighting as fighting Jose Aldo can surely make him increase in experience with the striking as just like what happens with Marlon Vera for sure those accurate striking and accurate kicks were too nasty for Jonathan Martinez and I admit I was really wrong with this but Jose Aldo reaching the belt that is what I am doubting to happen.

^  Yeah he opted for the low risk route.  Aldo knew that if he took Martinez down he'll def get R3 and therefore win the match if it was 1 - 1 after R2.  Eazy peazy.

Here are the results.

Alexandre Pantoja def Steve Erceg  UD
Jose Aldo def Jonathan Martinez  UD
Anthony Smith def Vitor Petrino  SUB R1
Michel Pereira def Ihor Potieria  SUB R1
Caio Borralho def Paul Craig  KO R2
Joanderson Brito def Jack Shore  TKO R2
Iasmin Lucindo def Karolina Kowalkiewicz  UD
Myktybek Orolbai def Elves Brener  UD
Drakkar Klose def Joaquim Silva   Decision  UD
Maurício Ruffy def Jamie Mullarkey  TKO R1
Dione Barbosa def Ernesta Kareckaitė  UD
Ismael Bonfim def Vinc Pichel  UD
Alessandro Costa def Kevin Borjas  TKO R2

UFC 301:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGN6xqHpV2A

Some things I learned from the event is Erceg is the real deal even though he lost.  He's pretty good and would likely bet on him in his next match ups.  

Aldo man...  He still has it.  Don't think he'll win vs the elite at 135 tho.

Petrino might either be a can or just needs more time.

Orolbai future title challenger?  Maybe in a couple of years?

Ruffy is pretty good.  Another prospect.  We'll see.

Aldo still this fast avoiding back fist? https://twitter.com/mmaSharke/status/1786968251538268298

he could have knocked the boy down like a log since his feet almost did the chicken dance but also took him down instead and allowed this boy to recover.

This shows how retarded his team is.
According to the video, his weight was 143 pounds. For a non-title bout, he's allowed to weigh +1 pound above the official limit, so 146.
So if his near-collapse was indeed due to cutting weight, they MASSIVELY overdid it.
We could speculate on whether they were using some uncalibrated scale, but he showed up with shorts and t-shirt (so extra weight), meaning they knew he was below the limit.


This statement confirms he's afraid to fight Tom, as he knows Tom is younger, more energetic and has skills that could be enough to defeat him. So now he's just trying to boost up his record with fights he knows he's going to win. Stipe is way past his prime and all he'd have to do against Pereira is to take him down like he did to Gane.

If he refuses to fight Tom after the Stipe fight (assuming he wins) he should either be retired or, at the very least, stripped of his title.

I didn't know that Jose Aldo was really active in some boxing matches and against Dvalishvili, but still, I am not changing my take that Jonathan Martinez can win this because for me it is still different to be active inside the octagon and with the sparring but I believe it that an older fighter really needs to unwind or rejuvenate themselves get the best possible version of themselves but for me, I still think it will depend but after seeing your take on this maybe there is a part of me that was leaning on Jose Aldo because for sure he is a better striker because of this boxing.

Now here are my thoughts on who's what I think will win and what may happen with the fight.

Alexandre Pantoja VS Steve Erceg

My thoughts on this fight I think that Steve Erceg never fought someone this good and that good is actually Pantoja for sure there is value in the odds that Alexander Pantoja has in this fight his grappling is really insane that messing Brandon Moreno and Brandon Royval with their strategy even though Steve Erceg had a good takedown defense but for me, it hasn't been tested yet and Alexander Pantoja is a great source to test his takedown defense for sure and I really think he never has faced a grappler like Pantoja so for me I Lean on Alexander Pantoja in this fight I really think he is a better grappler and striker than Steve Erceg.

Jonathan Martinez VS José Aldo

Is there a possibility that Jose Aldo would use enhanced drugs we can all agree that USADA is not around so there could be a possibility he could use that to his advantage but for sure Jonathan Martinez is younger than Aldo anything as he is still learning to fighter and he can surely improve in this fight as many have also improved while fighting Jose Aldo but for sure even though Jose Aldo has a better striking than Martinez I still think that Jonathan Martinez might still get this I really think he is faster than Aldo now.

William Gomis is out of UFC 301 after he almost collapsed on scale!
This shows again how crazy cutting weight in UFC is: https://youtu.be/tNcdrMIBzio

There is one interesting proposal from Jon Jones to fight against Alex Pereira, but fight would need to happen in heavyweight division.
I would like to see this two guys in octagon but I dont think Pereira is ready to fight big guns yet, not so long ago he was in middleweight category fighting with Adesanya last year.
Pereira won UFC titles in middleweight and light heavyweight, so it would be amazing if he could do it in heayvweight, but I think it is still early for him to make this switch.

Take a look at his Tapology page...  Aldo had three boxing matches in between his last UFC match vs Dvalishvili and this one vs Jonathan Martinez.  So he isn't totally inactive.  And the thing with older fighters is sometimes they need some extra time away to rejuvenate themselves.  But yeah, we'll see if time away from the UFC did him well.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/jose-aldo-junior

Here are the weigh in vid and the results.  One fight was cancelled Silva vs Gomis due to a weight cut issue on Gomis' side.

UFC 301:  Ceremonial Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSQDK2zHDWI

Alexandre Pantoja (125) vs Steve Erceg (125)
Jose Aldo (136) vs Jonathan Martinez (136)
Vitor Petrino (206) vs Anthony Smith (205.5)
Michel Pereira (186) vs  Ihor Potieria (185)
Caio Borralho (186) vs Paul Craig (185)
Joanderson Brito (146) vs Jack Shore (145.5)
Karolina Kowalkiewicz (116) vs Iasmin Lucindo (116)
Elves Brener (156) vs Myktybek Orolbai (155.5)
William Gomis (143.5) vs Jean Silva (146)
Klose (156) vs Joaquim Silva (155.5)
Jamie Mullarkey (155) vs Mauricio Ruffy (156)
Dione Barbosa (126) vs Ernesta Kareckaite (125.5)
Ismael Bonfim (156) vs Vinc Pichel (156)
Kevin Borjas (125.5) vs Alessandro Costa (125)

And last call to jeremypwr's Multi Master.  Good luck guys.

UFC 301:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-301-multi-master-challenge-4-may-5494701

Edit:  As for bets if I get to load my account on time...  I'm broke, all my coins are locked farming airdrops.  Lmao.  I'd go for Brito at 1.60, Brenner at 3.15, Perreira and Pantoja parlay at 1.82, then Aldo at 2.21.  NFA.

For sure Diego Lopez got approval from Dana White so why is Dana White letting this happen, for sure Diego Lopez deserves better and not this kind of treatment there is no one that got hurt in the process while Arman Tsarukyan is the one that has hurt a fan for sure that fan will surely want something from their favorite fighter sometimes they get too excited that they doesn't know what have they done and a UFC fighters fist is pretty much lethal so they are not allowed to swing it around like that.


What I think about this, is despite MMA being their fashion or they really like MMA more than just boxing, there is also a technicality when it comes to MMA and boxing so money doesn't matter at all or MMA is what they really want and like Michael Bisping has said there is a huge chance to get a head concussion in Boxing than with the UFC as we got rules that prohibited from damaging the head that much, than with UFC that will immediately stop the fight when the referee could see that the other fighter will get annihilated by the other one.


I doubt Jose Aldo can win against Jonathan Martinez for me the younger fighter had a huge chance of winning this but for me, if Aldo can get a chance to win this then I think this is a good setup for him to retire with a great win but for me, I am really doubting Aldo to win this as I have bet for Jonathan Martinez for sure.

I think that the fight Michel Pereira VS Ihor Potieria and Caio Borralho VS Paul Craig will be a great fight for sure as for me Michel Pereira and Caio Borralho both have huge chance in winning their fight in my opinion.

I really believe in Jose Aldo, but all this time and this return to the Octagon without much ceremony makes me very apprehensive. I hope he comes back with everything and that he convinces in this fight. If he doesn't fight, everyone loses.

Has been a long time since the last fight from the last José Aldo's fight, we are talking about 2 years without a fight, is nice to see him back to action, he used to be a great fighter and for sure he will give us a nice show.

Another 2 great fights on this UFC 301 will be, the one from Michel Pereira and the one from Caio Borralho, both of them should be easy money. And for the main event I'm not sure what to expect, steve has a record of 12-1-0, so, anything could happen on that one.

Remember kids: Instagram is not reality Anyone can look splendorous in front of a borrowed car.

I'm not sure if he lives in Armenia or Russia, but 126k can get you much further there. But the sad part is, he'll probably have to pay close to 40% tax on it and pay off his team from whatever's left. And then there's that 28k penalty...

I really hope for him there's some other, additional pay he'll be getting, i.e. contingent on ticket/PPV sales etc.


That's true, at least to some degree. I believe some fighters that joined UFC from other organisations, like KSW, had to accepted worse pay than they were getting there, but did that for the sport/glory and maybe for a hope of really high earnings later on. When you establish yourself at the top, and have leverage to re-negotiate your contract etc, that's when the real money start flowing in. I guess young Arman is not there yet.

Here's the thing tho...  The guys who get into MMA and stay long in it to really make a living out of it have a different mindset than guys who fight in boxing.  They have some sort of mental illness as they're not totally there just for the money.  They're in it to fight and test their skills.  It's the guys who reach some level of success that become kinda whiney about money.  I mean how come these guys still fight at a high level like they do despite getting paid less money than boxing?  :/  

Anyway, live weigh ins is ongoing and ceremonial weigh ins a few hours later.  

UFC 301:  Live Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKMpLP0QtyE

UFC 301:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSQDK2zHDWI

I have read in the media, that Lopez asked Dana if he could jump on the fence and Dana allowed him. It was written that Lopez is going to get fined for 5k for that, and Dana would cover that fine. While with Lopez it is clear and allowing him to jump would only play positive for the UFC image. But Trying to punch the fan because he showed you middle finger isnt right. Arman should understand that not everyone in the venue was there to support him. If he cant control his emotions, then he is not a professional.

It was during that time when Arman Tsarukyan and Diego Lopez both withheld their purse and the UFC 300 Repercussion continued as both might get Disiplined because of their act Arman Tsarukyan should be held accountable even though the fan was a bit negative towards him he should withheld it to himself as it is part of this industries ups and downs there will be a fan that will like and dislike you so you need to keep it down low, while for me Diego Lopez might have gotten a bigger offense for just climbing up the fence and going over it while there is no audience that was hurt Diego Lopez is a newly fighter and he badly needed that money to pay for his trainers and is camp for me it is not fair for him to have the same punishment.


For me, it will depend if he can still fight inside the octagon which I think he can not anymore I really think he can feel it inside him even though Arlovski is 45 and is just 44 it depends if a fighter can still perform which I really doubted him doing that last fight against Jiří Procházka that was the last time we could see Glover Texeira still got it on him but right now time have already taken toll on him.

Lol, Ive just found a perfect picture for that:


If he really got only 126k gbp, then we all know the reason for that - his contract. We dont know what he has signed. He has only 11 fights in ufc. As we know that fighters start with 3 fight contracts and 10+10 and advance slowly. Since his first 3 fights ended with 2-1 record, I think he has got 10+10 again. Probably. Then Ive heard fighters get 30+30 and 60+60. So his 126k gbp seems true.

Anyway, if we look at his Instagram account, he is not poor and live life that cost more than 126k gbp However, year ago I have watched his interview from training camp in Thailand, and he lived quite a modest life. Small bungalow or room. He has told that camp cost him around $5k in total (tickets, coaches, food, accommodation) and that was a good amount to spend for him. Not like he can easily get $5k out of the pocket, but also not living on rice and water after such expenses.

He explained his reasons punching/attempting to punch the guy here:
https://youtu.be/Kb3aNNeiaY4?si=gkvQRpkQviQTaYTt&t=168

I kind of understand him, we're all humans, if you're flipping a middle finger to the other guy and disrespect him, you should expect some violence. On the other hand, when he publicly announced that he will keep responding like that to fans' provocations, he's guaranteed to have more of them in his next fights.

According to the DailyStar, he only got an equivalent of £28,000 withheld by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which is 20% of his £126,000 earnings from the fight. Source:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/ufc/arman-tsarukyan-punches-fan-ufc-32713844

Now we have something else to talk about. £126k?? Seriously?? For a fight in the most hyped-up UFC event in recent years? I understand he might be getting some other share of gate/PPV on the top, but come on, that's really low if true.

^  Oof Teixeira is too old at 44, Aldo is just 'somewhat' old at 37.    And the difference is Teixeira received a really bad beating vs Jamahal Hill...  Go watch the match again.  I think that played a huge part in his decision to retire.  Got his revenge thru Pereira tho.  Lol.

As for looking at the underdogs for 301, what do you guys think of Anthony Smith?  I feel like Petrino is gonna be the pie shtter.  :/

And here are a couple of Embedded vids...

UFC 301:  Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hegvm7oaBG0

UFC 301:  Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzUHt99BNdk

Similar to Jose Aldo return, I think we deserve Glover Texeira to have one last fight also. He is still young (44 only he-he Arlovski is 45 and is still fighting). Why I want him back, because imho he did not get enough respect from fans. I think it was him retiring in front of empty venue (or people were leaving). Even though that fight was in Brazil, I think his compatriots should farewell him properly. That would be fair.

Remember when during the walk to octagon Tsarukyan, on ufc 300 tried to punch (or managed to punch) a fan? Now athletic comission is on him for doing that. This is considered as an assault and now his reward for ufc 300 is blocked. Not sure if blocked is the right word (translating it from Russian media), but he gets no more until they sort this case and find way to punish him.

Then I want to see that fight for sure If Magomed Ankalaev is like that then he surely gets a chance against Alex Pereira and it is sure a great time to showcase what he has learned from Glover Texeira sure all Alex Pereira needs to do to enhance his wrestling defense which we can see against the level of wrestling of Magomed Ankalaev, or maybe Ankalaev will take him in a good standing match I am really excited about this because I really think this is the 1st time Alex Pereira's takedown defense will be tested.


For sure that is your opinion as the fighters for that event are not that well-known some are old and for sure need to retire for good, but for a true MMA fan I am still interested in every detail of the fight, for me Alexandre Pantoja is an exciting fighter, he could not have an interesting finish in becoming a Champion that sick grappling and still is still good in his division for sure in this division you will definitely be needing a lot of IQ in winning as some fighters are very nibble for you to take down or knockout.


A younger nibble Jonathan Martinez is likely to have the upper hand but for the magic that you are expecting Jose Aldo might have something off his sleeves for his hometown to watch of him 1 last time but I am doubting if he can make a miracle out of this and many are expecting that Jonathan Martinez would surely win this as we all know his fight against Said Nurmagomedov and Adrian Yanez so for sure Jose Aldo will have a hard time against him.