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Quote from: tokeweed on May 24, 2024, 07:31:02 AM

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 23, 2024, 07:19:54 AM

^ Yeah cos most of them like fighting cans instead of the best guys. In the UFC, Bellator, PFL, ONE, etc, etc that can't happen as they have the match makers doing it for them. Not really sure how the match making works in boxing tho. But when I used to watch it, all I watch is the main event as most of the under cards suck. And what I don't like about boxing is they put too much of a premium in unblemished records. I mean who cares if the fighter is undefeated... In MMA, that only means that the fighter hasn't really been tested yet.

Floyd cares so much about undefeated. Same with Jones. Legacy I suppose and when a fighter retires undefeated, they have the opportunity to promote products while they can brag about the undefeated record. Tyson Fury used to brag about it. Being undefeated means marketable.

MMA is very different though. You can only be the best when you have all the skills from boxing, jujitsu, wrestling, and all sorts which is why if the match team is going to test a striker against someone who has wrestling skills chances are that the striker will be at the disadvantage unless he learns fast with his team. boxing is just boxing. but some of them are just decorating themselves with KOs even the fights in their amateur days like 8 rounder fights.

Maybe but I could say that staying undefeated in the UFC is waaay harder than staying undefeated in boxing. There's just a lot more going on in MMA as fighters have to study and practice multiple disciplines. Boxing on the other handis just boxing. Lol. And I know the next question would be then why do MMA fighters lose when they fight boxers in boxing? Ok if they're so good at fighting then why don't the top boxers fight in MMA? A top 15 UFC fighter would win vs a top boxer 7 times out of 10 in MMA imho. And that's being generous.

Name a great boxer right now and I'll name an MMA fighter outside the top 5 who I think could win.

Inoue vs striker.

But I don't think a boxer will put himself in a situation where rules are going to be unfavorable to him. Rodtang hardly earn points in the first round with DJdespite the modified rules is favorable to him.

Rules matter. Even in a boxer vs boxer fight, the rules can be utilized to put a boxer out of action. Ryan Garcia did this to Devin Haney as he turned his body sideways. If Ryan was fighting in UFC, his opponent would jump right on his back for a rare naked choke.

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Quote from: cabron on May 23, 2024, 01:29:59 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on May 23, 2024, 07:19:54 AM

^ Yeah cos most of them like fighting cans instead of the best guys. In the UFC, Bellator, PFL, ONE, etc, etc that can't happen as they have the match makers doing it for them. Not really sure how the match making works in boxing tho. But when I used to watch it, all I watch is the main event as most of the under cards suck. And what I don't like about boxing is they put too much of a premium in unblemished records. I mean who cares if the fighter is undefeated... In MMA, that only means that the fighter hasn't really been tested yet.

Floyd cares so much about undefeated. Same with Jones. Legacy I suppose and when a fighter retires undefeated, they have the opportunity to promote products while they can brag about the undefeated record. Tyson Fury used to brag about it. Being undefeated means marketable.

MMA is very different though. You can only be the best when you have all the skills from boxing, jujitsu, wrestling, and all sorts which is why if the match team is going to test a striker against someone who has wrestling skills chances are that the striker will be at the disadvantage unless he learns fast with his team. boxing is just boxing. but some of them are just decorating themselves with KOs even the fights in their amateur days like 8 rounder fights.

Maybe but I could say that staying undefeated in the UFC is waaay harder than staying undefeated in boxing. There's just a lot more going on in MMA as fighters have to study and practice multiple disciplines. Boxing on the other handis just boxing. Lol. And I know the next question would be then why do MMA fighters lose when they fight boxers in boxing? Ok if they're so good at fighting then why don't the top boxers fight in MMA? A top 15 UFC fighter would win vs a top boxer 7 times out of 10 in MMA imho. And that's being generous.

Name a great boxer right now and I'll name an MMA fighter outside the top 5 who I think could win.

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Quote from: cabron on May 23, 2024, 01:29:59 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on May 23, 2024, 07:19:54 AM

^ Yeah cos most of them like fighting cans instead of the best guys. In the UFC, Bellator, PFL, ONE, etc, etc that can't happen as they have the match makers doing it for them. Not really sure how the match making works in boxing tho. But when I used to watch it, all I watch is the main event as most of the under cards suck. And what I don't like about boxing is they put too much of a premium in unblemished records. I mean who cares if the fighter is undefeated... In MMA, that only means that the fighter hasn't really been tested yet.

Floyd cares so much about undefeated. Same with Jones. Legacy I suppose and when a fighter retires undefeated, they have the opportunity to promote products while they can brag about the undefeated record. Tyson Fury used to brag about it. Being undefeated means marketable.

MMA is very different though. You can only be the best when you have all the skills from boxing, jujitsu, wrestling, and all sorts which is why if the match team is going to test a striker against someone who has wrestling skills chances are that the striker will be at the disadvantage unless he learns fast with his team. boxing is just boxing. but some of them are just decorating themselves with KOs even the fights in their amateur days like 8 rounder fights.

I would understand if those undefeated boxers would be from local promotions and etc. We have MMA fighters with same undefeated record built in jungle-pride-mma-buffalo-texas-fc. But when I look into WBO, WBA and etc, and I see that top five guys are undefeated or have 1 loss, that makes me feel curious how this is possible. Imagine we get a lightweight UFC top Makhachev 18-0, Tsarukyan 15-0, Oliveira 30-0, Gaethji 25-0 and Poirier 30-1. That is just impossible.

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That is a very brave prediction of yours hehehe. I will also offer a brave prediction. I predict Islam Makhachev will win against Dustin Poirier very much similar to Khabib and this will be with a rear naked choke hehe.

In any case, I wish @Saint-loup will not see this prediction because he might again challenge me to bet against him and I will again be forced to be brave heheheheeh. This might become another donation for him. However, yes it will be a rear naked choke.

You've called me? Grin

Last time you've bet against me, you didn't lose, you didn't win either, nobody won unfortunately actually IIRC.
How much do you want to bet? Which odds do you propose?

Hehehehehe I did not expect for you to see this heehehhee.

However, I cannot be very certain how much odds I can propose to you because there are many types of submission technics in mixed martial arts. The rear naked choke is only one of them. If I propose something, you might tell me that I am being unfair. Also, Islam can also win with a knockout punch or a technical knockout.

It appears that I cannot be brave for you hehehehe.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on May 23, 2024, 04:14:13 AM

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I'm sure they'll leave it until the end of the year, Jones is resting by going to parties and doing his favorite hobbies.

Anyone who bets and believes in him when he comes back is crazy. I've already given up, he lives in the past, that's all.

I'm confused as to why the UFC likes Jon Jones. I admit Jones is a GOAT. He has many prestigious records and there will probably never be another fighter like him. But I really don't like his attitude. I wanted a Jones vs Ngannou fight but unfortunately the UFC had contract and pay issues with Ngannou so he opted for Boxing. I don't think a fight against Gane and Miocic is a worthy match for Jones to call himself the GOAT at heavyweight. Gane is not a wrestler and Miocic is too old to be one. If Jones delays the fight like this I can't respect Jones as a fighter. Why doesn't Jones choose another option like Aspinall or Pavlovich who is in his prime?

I don't understand either, but the fact that he lives in the past is true. In my view, McGregor attracts more audiences than Jones. Jones is a great fighter, but for a while now he hasn't done anything relevant in my view, for me he's a top 10 fighter, at most top 5.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 23, 2024, 04:28:20 AM

I've got some things to discuss Cheesy

Ever wondered why in boxing there are so many guys with 0 losses? That is always confuses me. I would accept if there are boxers who fight only weak opponents and build records. But if look on any organization top ranking, among top5 or top10, there are a lot of guys with 20-30 wins, and only 0 or 1 loss. Or how come it be that a on first 5 places of top there are guys with 20-0, 22-0, 18-0, 21-0 records. Now look on UFC top. It is a really rare case, if a division champion, or someone in top5 has no losses at all. When in boxing those undefeated boxers are in every weight division. Somehow this is an absurd. Either there cant be so many professionals with 0 losses, or boxing record has less value than MMA record (for example), or boxers are afraid to fight against similar undefeated guys. Cant imagine if there would be a champion that will fight only weak opponents and refuses to tops just because he dont want to lose that 0 in losses.

Boxing is a sport that has been going on with its organizations for many years, now some things are certain, they simply bring some fighters to the top and take them to the top. I always question it, too, when I watch boxing matches and follow them, regardless of the weight, I look at the Win and Loose ratio of the guy, he has almost no defeats, some of them are not competitive at all and it is obvious from the numbers that it is ridiculous. I don't think this will change in boxing. The situation is completely different in MMA organizations, for example, in the fights of organizations such as UFC, Bellator or One FC, the name at the top can only stay at the top for a certain period of time, regardless of the weight, and new names are always coming that can take it from the top, and this is the best part.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 23, 2024, 03:45:27 AM

Cant wait for UFC to stop acting like all-permissive parent with a spoiled kid. The UFC wasnt built around Bones. If he dont want to fight, free the belt and leave. Ask other division champions, they are little selective when choosing opponent, but never avoided fighting. Replace Bones with battle dwarf Volk and make a fight Cheesy

I am sure Volk is ready to gain and fight Aspinal in a 1 minute notice Cheesy

But he does want to fight. That's the point. It's easy to get distracted with social-media dramas (leaked DMs etc), but as far as we know, he agreed to fight Stipe, which is something that UFC wants him to do.
To be fair, when the Jones Vs Stipe was first announced, that match wasn't all that bad. There weren't that many better options (with Ngannou leaving and Aspinall was still climbing to the top).
The main problem was they weren't in a rush to make that fight. Jones fought Gane in March 2023, they announced the Stipe fight in July 2023 and the date was set for Nov 2023. And then the injury happened.
Whether everything took so long because Jones was stalling, or was it the fault of the UFC - I don't know. But if they haven't stripped him of the belt back then, then stripping him now when he's injured and has an agreed fight makes little sense.
Lets give him a bit time.

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I watched a few classic fights last night on YouTube and I’ve got to say that the Khamzat vs Burns fight has to be one of my favorite UFC fights of all time. Those guys were really hammering each other. No spectacular knockouts like Conor’s prime fights, but seeing two warriors face off like that is definitely worth a rewatch.

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 23, 2024, 07:19:54 AM

^ Yeah cos most of them like fighting cans instead of the best guys. In the UFC, Bellator, PFL, ONE, etc, etc that can't happen as they have the match makers doing it for them. Not really sure how the match making works in boxing tho. But when I used to watch it, all I watch is the main event as most of the under cards suck. And what I don't like about boxing is they put too much of a premium in unblemished records. I mean who cares if the fighter is undefeated... In MMA, that only means that the fighter hasn't really been tested yet.

Floyd cares so much about undefeated. Same with Jones. Legacy I suppose and when a fighter retires undefeated, they have the opportunity to promote products while they can brag about the undefeated record. Tyson Fury used to brag about it. Being undefeated means marketable.

MMA is very different though. You can only be the best when you have all the skills from boxing, jujitsu, wrestling, and all sorts which is why if the match team is going to test a striker against someone who has wrestling skills chances are that the striker will be at the disadvantage unless he learns fast with his team. boxing is just boxing. but some of them are just decorating themselves with KOs even the fights in their amateur days like 8 rounder fights.

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^ Yeah cos most of them like fighting cans instead of the best guys. In the UFC, Bellator, PFL, ONE, etc, etc that can't happen as they have the match makers doing it for them. Not really sure how the match making works in boxing tho. But when I used to watch it, all I watch is the main event as most of the under cards suck. And what I don't like about boxing is they put too much of a premium in unblemished records. I mean who cares if the fighter is undefeated... In MMA, that only means that the fighter hasn't really been tested yet.

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I've got some things to discuss Cheesy

Ever wondered why in boxing there are so many guys with 0 losses? That is always confuses me. I would accept if there are boxers who fight only weak opponents and build records. But if look on any organization top ranking, among top5 or top10, there are a lot of guys with 20-30 wins, and only 0 or 1 loss. Or how come it be that a on first 5 places of top there are guys with 20-0, 22-0, 18-0, 21-0 records. Now look on UFC top. It is a really rare case, if a division champion, or someone in top5 has no losses at all. When in boxing those undefeated boxers are in every weight division. Somehow this is an absurd. Either there cant be so many professionals with 0 losses, or boxing record has less value than MMA record (for example), or boxers are afraid to fight against similar undefeated guys. Cant imagine if there would be a champion that will fight only weak opponents and refuses to tops just because he dont want to lose that 0 in losses.

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Quote from: Pumared on May 22, 2024, 07:55:24 PM

I'm sure they'll leave it until the end of the year, Jones is resting by going to parties and doing his favorite hobbies.

Anyone who bets and believes in him when he comes back is crazy. I've already given up, he lives in the past, that's all.

I'm confused as to why the UFC likes Jon Jones. I admit Jones is a GOAT. He has many prestigious records and there will probably never be another fighter like him. But I really don't like his attitude. I wanted a Jones vs Ngannou fight but unfortunately the UFC had contract and pay issues with Ngannou so he opted for Boxing. I don't think a fight against Gane and Miocic is a worthy match for Jones to call himself the GOAT at heavyweight. Gane is not a wrestler and Miocic is too old to be one. If Jones delays the fight like this I can't respect Jones as a fighter. Why doesn't Jones choose another option like Aspinall or Pavlovich who is in his prime?

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 22, 2024, 07:15:15 AM

^ It's not just you. And I think Poirier is prolly retiring after Makhachev. But if by some miracle he wins, he'll prolly fight one more time to defend the belt the retire even if he wins.

Wasnt Poirier decided mentally to retire long time ago? Somehow I see that he lacks motivation to fight. After those two fights against McGregor I looked that he has earned enough and entered the octagon because UFC pushed on him and they need a story for a fight against milking cow.

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It is time to take his belt and remove him from ranking for not activity. If not mistaken, second UFC milking cow lost his lightweight belt after a years of inactivity. Bones fought last time in March 2023. It is time to give belt to Aspinal.

Nah, he was ready to fight but got injured, so can't blame him for that. And I blame the UFC for the fact that they allowed him to fight Stipe instead of Aspinall after his recovery.
He should be stripped if he refuses to fight Tom (or whoever will be holding the interim belt) after his fight with Stipe.

Cant wait for UFC to stop acting like all-permissive parent with a spoiled kid. The UFC wasnt built around Bones. If he dont want to fight, free the belt and leave. Ask other division champions, they are little selective when choosing opponent, but never avoided fighting. Replace Bones with battle dwarf Volk and make a fight Cheesy

I am sure Volk is ready to gain and fight Aspinal in a 1 minute notice Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 22, 2024, 02:08:20 AM

It would not be so fun if it wasnt true. How long Bones reign in heavyweights with 0 title defence will continue? It is time to take his belt and remove him from ranking for not activity. If not mistaken, second UFC milking cow lost his lightweight belt after a years of inactivity. Bones fought last time in March 2023. It is time to give belt to Aspinal.

I'm sure they'll leave it until the end of the year, Jones is resting by going to parties and doing his favorite hobbies.

Anyone who bets and believes in him when he comes back is crazy. I've already given up, he lives in the past, that's all.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 21, 2024, 05:41:36 PM

Finally some interesting fight card coming in UFC, Islam Makhachev vs Dustin Poirier sounds interesting on paper, but I have no doubt Makhachev will win this fight in Khabib style.

That's what everyone thinks, but it's not like Dustin will show up in there just to take a beating and get his cheque. He's got a really good wrestling sparring partner (Gamrot) and will definitely show up with a plan to keep the fight in stand-up or neutralise Islam's ground game, e.g., similar to how Volk did it in their first fight.
Islam grows more and more confident in his striking, so I won't be surprised if he's willing to trade shots with Dustin at the beginning, and there's when things can go wrong for him.

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It is time to take his belt and remove him from ranking for not activity. If not mistaken, second UFC milking cow lost his lightweight belt after a years of inactivity. Bones fought last time in March 2023. It is time to give belt to Aspinal.

Nah, he was ready to fight but got injured, so can't blame him for that. And I blame the UFC for the fact that they allowed him to fight Stipe instead of Aspinall after his recovery.
He should be stripped if he refuses to fight Tom (or whoever will be holding the interim belt) after his fight with Stipe.

Quote from: jakelyson on May 22, 2024, 06:57:19 AM

WOW! Paolo Costa is a Crypto Enthusiast!

Is he though? Sounds like he advises ditching Bitcoin in favour of fat girls. Don't be falling for that.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 20, 2024, 10:50:28 PM

Quote from: Pumared on May 20, 2024, 09:27:21 PM

I will leave my predictions here:

Makhachev will lose, if he doesn't lose Dustin will show the way on how to defeat him and in his next fight Makhachev loses.

Strickland beats Paulo by knockout, the judges won't need to decide this one.

That is a very brave prediction of yours hehehe. I will also offer a brave prediction. I predict Islam Makhachev will win against Dustin Poirier very much similar to Khabib and this will be with a rear naked choke hehe.

In any case, I wish @Saint-loup will not see this prediction because he might again challenge me to bet against him and I will again be forced to be brave heheheheeh. This might become another donation for him. However, yes it will be a rear naked choke.

I believe that at one time or another Makhachev will fall, and that time is coming. The other fighters already have enough content to see the way he fights and start strategizing. So it may not be today but soon he will lose

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^ It's not just you. And I think Poirier is prolly retiring after Makhachev. But if by some miracle he wins, he'll prolly fight one more time to defend the belt the retire even if he wins.

Quote from: notblox1 on May 21, 2024, 05:41:36 PM

Finally some interesting fight card coming in UFC, Islam Makhachev vs Dustin Poirier sounds interesting on paper, but I have no doubt Makhachev will win this fight in Khabib style.
I always enjoy watching good heavyweight fight and now we are going to have King Kong Romanov vs Almeida, this could be another big KO win Grin

As I think Almeida is gonna win the match, I think it's gonna end via sub like most of his wins. But we'll see... Romanov could put anybody's lights out too. Lol. But yeah, my money is gonna be on Almeida.

Here's a vid about Makhachev's rise in the UFC.

Islam Makhachev - Journey to UFC Champion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAtjwcRwYrs

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Quote from: tokeweed on May 20, 2024, 07:11:04 AM

^ I think it's in the realms of possibility that Belal could wrestle fck Edwards and hold him down, throwing bombs on him. It's not gonna be a pretty fight but I think it could be a lot closer than anticipated.

Anyway we have good event coming in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to the main event, the co main, Almeida vs Romanov, Almeida vs Kopylov and curious what we'll see from Dawson after the weird KO loss vs Bobby Green.

Date: Saturday, June 1
Main Card (PPV): 10:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+): 8:00pm EST
Early Prelims (ESPN+/Fight Pass): 6:15pm EST
Venue: Prudential Center, Newark, New Jersey
Live Streams:

Is it just me or does it seem that the Main Event will be a one-sided fight for Islam Makhachev to be the winner of this fight as good for Islam Makhachev, well, I don't really want to underestimate Dustin Poirier but this is what I am seeing may happen in their upcoming fight and we all know that Poirier has a good boxing combination but apparently, we can not say if he has good takedown defense as Porier has said that he has a belt in BJJ but I surely doubt if the level of his particular ground game could initially submit Makhachev.

While Sean Strickland to Paulo Costa is some kind of interesting sure these two will just run their mouth in the following press conference for sure and I am really excited to see who's great with their mouth but sure Paolo Costa has the power but for sure Strickland will have the advantage with the striking.

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 21, 2024, 03:03:51 AM

There is an interesting situation with Pablo Costa again. In less than two weeks he is fighting Strickland, but several days ago Strickland posted in Twitter, that Costa did not sign the contract (again?). Costa replies with this: https://x.com/BorrachinhaMMA/status/1790946222595043721. Either Costa is trolling, or once again trying to blackmail UFC to get more money. I will remind, that in last 4 fights UFC had troubles with Costa.

However, I remove all the crap on Costa as he is our guy Cheesy

WOW! Paolo Costa is a Crypto Enthusiast! well that was great for sure he is the man who represents us as a community, but even though he is a Bitcoin holder I have never been a fan of Paolo Costa maybe change his career to be a celebrity and a full-time Bitcoin Enthusiast and stop his MMA career right now as I think he doesn't have a future or I never seeing him becoming a champion at all.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 21, 2024, 03:03:51 AM

There is an interesting situation with Pablo Costa again. In less than two weeks he is fighting Strickland, but several days ago Strickland posted in Twitter, that Costa did not sign the contract (again?).

I find it hard to believe. Would the UFC officially announce the fight if the contracts were not signed? Sounds odd.

But that has happened before. Costa has speculated before that UFC announce his fights before he even signs contract or knows that he has to fight at all.

Since Wednesday is a little Friday, I have found a nice fun picture for all of your Cheesy

It would not be so fun if it wasnt true. How long Bones reign in heavyweights with 0 title defence will continue? It is time to take his belt and remove him from ranking for not activity. If not mistaken, second UFC milking cow lost his lightweight belt after a years of inactivity. Bones fought last time in March 2023. It is time to give belt to Aspinal.

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Finally some interesting fight card coming in UFC, Islam Makhachev vs Dustin Poirier sounds interesting on paper, but I have no doubt Makhachev will win this fight in Khabib style.
I always enjoy watching good heavyweight fight and now we are going to have King Kong Romanov vs Almeida, this could be another big KO win Grin

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