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March 19, 2021, 06:43:43 AM
I really wish for Khabib Nurmagomedov's return to UFC but the given fact that all good things will surely come to an end it is a good and exciting ride watching him fight, and eventually, he is in good form when he retired he will surely keep that record and hug it to himself of undefeated that is why he realizes to cut ties before the old age has taken him in his good form.
As if Khabib is in his later years of his career, he is just 32 years old and some of the champions are well above that age limit and can you point a challenger that could pose any danger to his dominance in the toughest division in UFC.

I say Gleison Tibau? but that was in 2012 so I think if they would have a rematch now Nurmagomedov will surely win it easily because I think of Khabib as a learning fighter he may have a solution for Tibau's defense with his ground tackles but I am not saying that Tibau should be the winner all I am saying is that Khabib had troublesome time fighting with Tibau, and nearly lose that fight,

And Hey that early retirement must be something to Khabib and who doesn't want an early retirement if you know to yourself that you have gained a goal that hasn't been taken by anyone, But I still wish to see Khabib in the octagon even for one last fight.
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March 19, 2021, 05:53:19 AM
If anybody is interested, here is the media day stream for Brunson vs Holland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aKokIR1XPc&t=395s


I don't know how controversial of an opinion this is, but I actually prefer watching the fights with no fans.

Nah, it's not controversial. I like it as well, it has an old-school vibe to me, throwback to those karate tournaments back in the day that had a lot fewer spectators and a lot less pomp to them. However, TUF fights in comparison did not have a crowd (or a big crowd) but did not have that feel to them.
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March 19, 2021, 04:01:51 AM
To be honest Holland has a big mouth and talks a lot but he is also a great fighter.

Fully agree. Kevin is on a record of 5 straight win. I think he is the one who fought more than any other fighter in 2020 (all these 5 wins were in 2020 and 3 of them got Performance of the night awards). I'm sure that main event on March 20 is going to be also something worth watching. Also, Kevin has a lot of tags as a "fighter of the year 2020" or "breakthrough fighter of 2020".
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March 19, 2021, 03:52:13 AM
I don't know how controversial of an opinion this is, but I actually prefer watching the fights with no fans. Getting to hear the corners, the fighters sometimes talking to each other, and the impact of the shots which is pretty much all drowned out whenever we have fans back. I do get what fans bring to an occasion, and in almost every other sport I'd prefer to watch with fans. Rugby, and soccer for example have lost some of that spark without fans, especially football.

I imagine in fight island they'll be allowed fans back sooner, although I'm unsure what the regulations are over there, and the USA regulations I'm unsure of. In the UK we've allowed I think up to 2000 fans in certain football matches, but has been rather inconsistent due to the lockdowns we keep getting.

I'll post my predictions up a little later or edit this post.
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March 19, 2021, 02:16:28 AM
retiring being a champion and without loss makes Khabib a legend but him being that young will always welcome a match whenever an offer is good enough. win-win for Dana too.
The legacy of Khabib is how he dominated elite fighters and the debate everyone will be having is how he got hit by Michael Johnson once in his career and the next debate is Conor McGregor winning a close round when he took a break in the third round and that too in the toughest division in MMA and to be undefeated when no one in the history of MMA cannot have that kind of dominance and now he announced his retirement and now everyone will blame that he someone escaped getting an undefeated record and if he continued he will get defeated eventually  Cheesy .

In his interviews he says that a fighter can be in his best shape only once in his life. He already was in that shape. Means if he returns, he wont be as good as he was, and he doesnt not wants to be like that. Also there is not a single fighter who would he be interested to fight against.

Long story short - it is Islam Makhachev time now Cheesy
I saw the interview, what Khabib said is that there is an age limit to be an elite fighter in lower weight division and he was referencing Tony Ferguson and then he said if he is 37 he will also have his limitations. The plan of Khabib was to focus on Islam Makhachev and if not for his dad's sudden demise he would have fought a couple of fights and would have retired when Islam Makhachev reaches the position to fight for a title.

it's the risk to take when you retire and then come back. but i suppose he still keeps training while retired, he has his own gym. most fighters who do this ultimately comes back from a long rest will need a lot about 3 months of training before the fight. he still is young and still in his prime and in his best shape. we could see MMA fighters at age 40 still fighting but he is just 32. even if he loses once he could gain back up again. although undefeated would have been better.


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March 18, 2021, 07:03:53 PM

One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653

If Khabib Nurmagomedov comes back it will be very good. But I think that he can come back only if he is offered an interesting fight. After all, Khabib's priority is achievement, not money. More precisely, not only money.
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March 18, 2021, 06:59:44 PM
I see Derek Brunson has painted his hair and maybe he is hoping that would help him to win against Kevin Holland or clown how Derek is calling him.
To be honest Holland has a big mouth and talks a lot but he is also a great fighter.

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March 18, 2021, 03:09:12 PM
^^ Still i wish to see him fight for the next two years so that there is no doubt even for the naysayers about his dominance and legacy.

retiring being a champion and without loss makes Khabib a legend but him being that young will always welcome a match whenever an offer is good enough. win-win for Dana too.
As a fan i would love to see Khabib return and he is a different breed of fighter as he cannot be enticed with money because he was making millions in his last few fights when he started with $15k in the UFC and only after becoming champion he started earning millions in the UFC and any normal champion would have tried to make the maximum benefit as long as he can but Khabib took a different position altogether we have not seen.

I really wish for Khabib Nurmagomedov's return to UFC but the given fact that all good things will surely come to an end it is a good and exciting ride watching him fight, and eventually, he is in good form when he retired he will surely keep that record and hug it to himself of undefeated that is why he realizes to cut ties before the old age has taken him in his good form.
As if Khabib is in his later years of his career, he is just 32 years old and some of the champions are well above that age limit and can you point a challenger that could pose any danger to his dominance in the toughest division in UFC.
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March 18, 2021, 01:55:28 PM
retiring being a champion and without loss makes Khabib a legend but him being that young will always welcome a match whenever an offer is good enough. win-win for Dana too.
The legacy of Khabib is how he dominated elite fighters and the debate everyone will be having is how he got hit by Michael Johnson once in his career and the next debate is Conor McGregor winning a close round when he took a break in the third round and that too in the toughest division in MMA and to be undefeated when no one in the history of MMA cannot have that kind of dominance and now he announced his retirement and now everyone will blame that he someone escaped getting an undefeated record and if he continued he will get defeated eventually  Cheesy .

In his interviews he says that a fighter can be in his best shape only once in his life. He already was in that shape. Means if he returns, he wont be as good as he was, and he doesnt not wants to be like that. Also there is not a single fighter who would he be interested to fight against.

Long story short - it is Islam Makhachev time now Cheesy
I saw the interview, what Khabib said is that there is an age limit to be an elite fighter in lower weight division and he was referencing Tony Ferguson and then he said if he is 37 he will also have his limitations. The plan of Khabib was to focus on Islam Makhachev and if not for his dad's sudden demise he would have fought a couple of fights and would have retired when Islam Makhachev reaches the position to fight for a title.
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March 18, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653

But the post in instagram, that was posted previous then this tweet/same instagram counters "may be back" as Khabib said, when he was an active fighter, trained a lot and had to cut weight, he felt like he was in prison. Now, as he is retired, he is a free person, or a free eagle Cheesy

In his interviews he says that a fighter can be in his best shape only once in his life. He already was in that shape. Means if he returns, he wont be as good as he was, and he doesnt not wants to be like that. Also there is not a single fighter who would he be interested to fight against.

Long story short - it is Islam Makhachev time now Cheesy

I really wish for Khabib Nurmagomedov's return to UFC but the given fact that all good things will surely come to an end it is a good and exciting ride watching him fight, and eventually, he is in good form when he retired he will surely keep that record and hug it to himself of undefeated that is why he realizes to cut ties before the old age has taken him in his good form.
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March 18, 2021, 10:03:23 AM
One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653

But the post in instagram, that was posted previous then this tweet/same instagram counters "may be back" as Khabib said, when he was an active fighter, trained a lot and had to cut weight, he felt like he was in prison. Now, as he is retired, he is a free person, or a free eagle Cheesy

In his interviews he says that a fighter can be in his best shape only once in his life. He already was in that shape. Means if he returns, he wont be as good as he was, and he doesnt not wants to be like that. Also there is not a single fighter who would he be interested to fight against.

Long story short - it is Islam Makhachev time now Cheesy
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March 18, 2021, 09:33:50 AM
Some news for the upcoming fights.

It seems that Robert Whittaker opened as a betting favorite over Kelvin Gastelum. Not much of a surprise there.
UFC Fight Night: Whittaker vs. Gastelum:
Kelvin Gastelum (+220)
Robert Whittaker (-275)

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events/ufc-fight-night-whittaker-vs-gastelum-2062

Also, we have a poster for the Till / Vettori fight

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March 18, 2021, 08:11:15 AM
Just finished watching pre fight press conference and Kevin Holand interview and I must say I see him as clear favorite in this fight against Derek Brunson.
He is better in all apects of the game and I expect to see this fight ending early and not going the distance.


I’m leaning Holland but I think the line should be closer imo.  Brunson could take him down just like what Allen, Meerschaert, Stewart and Jacare did, tho he KO’d Jacare.  But still...  And if it weren’t for Brunson’s chin, I’d say Brunson should be the favorite.

Straight up the value side is Brunson but I also like my degen props:  Holland to win at R1 and Holland win via sub.  I wonder how much the lines are for those at Stake and FJ when they open as I could see both happening.

after fighting Santos he instantly became Dana's fav for accepting within 2 weeks' notice. he lost it but definitely made the fight very entertaining.  Brunson is a tough guy as well so betting for Holland to win at R1 might not be possible. 

Maybe they just want to get together and drink Grin On a serious note, it looks like a done deal. I wonder who the opponent is this time.

On another note, which fighter retired as champ has the record of longest time out before returning to fight again? Is it GSP? Let's ignore those fights that didn't materialize because of failed negotiations.
The below picture is what the speculations started and the catch phrase, Khabib met with Lorenzo Fertitta but they are no longer the owners of UFC and you think he motivated him to return again  Undecided. Khabib is the first fighter Dana White is giving the long rope and hoping he would return as i do not remember him giving any sympathy to any other fighters unless they were injured.



retiring being a champion and without loss makes Khabib a legend but him being that young will always welcome a match whenever an offer is good enough. win-win for Dana too.



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March 18, 2021, 07:31:02 AM
Just finished watching pre fight press conference and Kevin Holand interview and I must say I see him as clear favorite in this fight against Derek Brunson.
He is better in all apects of the game and I expect to see this fight ending early and not going the distance.





I’m leaning Holland but I think the line should be closer imo.  Brunson could take him down just like what Allen, Meerschaert, Stewart and Jacare did, tho he KO’d Jacare.  But still...  And if it weren’t for Brunson’s chin, I’d say Brunson should be the favorite.

Straight up the value side is Brunson but I also like my degen props:  Holland to win at R1 and Holland win via sub.  I wonder how much the lines are for those at Stake and FJ when they open as I could see both happening.
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March 18, 2021, 04:59:43 AM
Maybe they just want to get together and drink Grin On a serious note, it looks like a done deal. I wonder who the opponent is this time.

On another note, which fighter retired as champ has the record of longest time out before returning to fight again? Is it GSP? Let's ignore those fights that didn't materialize because of failed negotiations.
The below picture is what the speculations started and the catch phrase, Khabib met with Lorenzo Fertitta but they are no longer the owners of UFC and you think he motivated him to return again  Undecided. Khabib is the first fighter Dana White is giving the long rope and hoping he would return as i do not remember him giving any sympathy to any other fighters unless they were injured.

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March 18, 2021, 01:06:44 AM
One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653
Meh, no one really belives fighters are serious when they retire Cheesy
Maybe they just want to get together and drink Grin On a serious note, it looks like a done deal. I wonder who the opponent is this time.

On another note, which fighter retired as champ has the record of longest time out before returning to fight again? Is it GSP? Let's ignore those fights that didn't materialize because of failed negotiations.
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March 18, 2021, 12:39:24 AM
Ngannou and Usman are Nigerian bothers and so is the reason Usman will be in his corner if he is really doing. For Ngannou it will be his last opportunity to become the champion and i am expecting a much better fight than the first one.

Them being from the same part of the world does not automatically qualify one of them to be a good cornerman. Does Usman have experience at being a cornerman? If he is there just for show then I am doubtful about the preparation Ngannou is putting into this fight because with Miočić's wrestling he will need someone to guide him through and work with the other cornerman to figure out the best plan at the moment. He does not need another spit bucket holder.

One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653

Meh, no one really belives fighters are serious when they retire Cheesy
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March 17, 2021, 05:07:24 PM
Just finished watching pre fight press conference and Kevin Holand interview and I must say I see him as clear favorite in this fight against Derek Brunson.
He is better in all apects of the game and I expect to see this fight ending early and not going the distance.

My other betting pick of the week is Gregor Gillespie as a comeback after losing agaisnt Kevin Lee in 2019, but notice that all fights are again in small cage and surprise results happen moer often thanm usual.
I will check out rest of the fights in next few days.

One more good news for UFC is that Khabib Nurmagomedov may be back fighting and defending his title, after he twitter calling Dana White to send him location!
https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1372085196221083653
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March 17, 2021, 01:06:56 PM
I dont know the current situation in the US, but is it allowed to gather in such a big crowd right now? What about 2-meter rule?
About the fight - previously, Masvidal was on a short notice (if I'm not mistaken 10 days only) and managed to break Usmans nose. In social media, Masvidal likes to display that, saying if he had a full camp, he would have bitten Usman. Now he has a chance to prove that Cheesy
Dana White is always hoping for a full capacity crowd for a long time even though he says his business is doing well even if there is no crowd. Last time Masvidal was on a short notice and he needs to fight with a full camp and we will see how he will handle with a full game plan. Usman's game plan is not secret and this time he might not try to stand and fight for the most part as he knows the dangers as Masvidal is a good striker.


Some news surfaced regarding the Miočić / Ngannou fight. It seems Usman will be in Ngannous corner. I don't know if I really see a benefit to it. I doubt Usman is coaching him, maybe he showed him a trick or two but besides that, this just seems like more moral support than anything else. Ngannou has serious holes in his wrestling and I don't think Usman's presence there can fix that, at least not to the level it would require to stop Miočić's takedowns. Guidance and ''helping out'' are not enough.
Ngannou and Usman are Nigerian bothers and so is the reason Usman will be in his corner if he is really doing. For Ngannou it will be his last opportunity to become the champion and i am expecting a much better fight than the first one.
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March 17, 2021, 12:25:22 PM
Some news surfaced regarding the Miočić / Ngannou fight. It seems Usman will be in Ngannous corner. I don't know if I really see a benefit to it. I doubt Usman is coaching him, maybe he showed him a trick or two but besides that, this just seems like more moral support than anything else. Ngannou has serious holes in his wrestling and I don't think Usman's presence there can fix that, at least not to the level it would require to stop Miočić's takedowns. Guidance and ''helping out'' are not enough.
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