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February 27, 2021, 07:55:32 AM

Both kickboxers, but Gane showed more versatility when it came to finishing fights, seeing he can mix it up between standup and submissions (arm-triangle and heel hook) and we didn't get to see much of his offensive wrestling, but what we did see in the Mayes fight showed us that he actually does have some skills in that department and can very well mix it up with the kickboxing. Some of his movement on the ground was admirable for someone in that division. I actually missed the Boser fight so don't know what happened there but all in all, Gane is one heck of a prospect in the division.

Also Hill, Caseres and Rivera are on the card. They tend to have good bouts over all so not a bad watch on the main card.

I totally agree, Ciryl Gane is most versatile when it comes to standup and submission that is why he can choose on how he can fight with his opponent and what better approach he can put to win the fight I am splitting my decision because he can not underestimate Rozenstruik power to TKO anybody,

after thinking and seeing recent fights of Ciryl Gane and Jairzinho Rozenstruik I think Ciryl Gane has a slight edge, over Rozenstruik if he's going to give his all by not underestimating his opponent and play it safe he would surely win that match, and I can not wait to surely see that.

Same here..  Edge goes to Gane but slight.  So the lines should be closer imo.  Gane is just 7 - 0 and Rozenstruik has fought some of the top fighters at HW.  Experience at high level is def a thing.  And here’s another thing, I’m pretty sure he learned a lot from the Overeem bout.  He got owned there til literally the final seconds.


At the end of the day, a big factor is what we discussed a week ago or so, is that at heawiveight everything can be reversed with one punch, especially when you have someone like Rozenstruik opposite to you, and at certain points Gane seemed like he might be to reckless and maybe relly more on his toughness and his chin to get through some of the punches...

I think Angela Hill has to win this one, not just for her stake in the company, but the fact that she had two split decisions with monsters like Gadelha and Watterson, I really think she is a top gatekeeper in the division that should, on paper, win this.

I know nothing about Cacares opponent tbh.
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February 27, 2021, 07:38:56 AM

Both kickboxers, but Gane showed more versatility when it came to finishing fights, seeing he can mix it up between standup and submissions (arm-triangle and heel hook) and we didn't get to see much of his offensive wrestling, but what we did see in the Mayes fight showed us that he actually does have some skills in that department and can very well mix it up with the kickboxing. Some of his movement on the ground was admirable for someone in that division. I actually missed the Boser fight so don't know what happened there but all in all, Gane is one heck of a prospect in the division.

Also Hill, Caseres and Rivera are on the card. They tend to have good bouts over all so not a bad watch on the main card.

I totally agree, Ciryl Gane is most versatile when it comes to standup and submission that is why he can choose on how he can fight with his opponent and what better approach he can put to win the fight I am splitting my decision because he can not underestimate Rozenstruik power to TKO anybody,

after thinking and seeing recent fights of Ciryl Gane and Jairzinho Rozenstruik I think Ciryl Gane has a slight edge, over Rozenstruik if he's going to give his all by not underestimating his opponent and play it safe he would surely win that match, and I can not wait to surely see that.

Same here..  Edge goes to Gane but slight.  So the lines should be closer imo.  Gane is just 7 - 0 and Rozenstruik has fought some of the top fighters at HW.  Experience at high level is def a thing.  And here’s another thing, I’m pretty sure he learned a lot from the Overeem bout.  He got owned there til literally the final seconds.
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February 27, 2021, 02:41:31 AM
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Well if you have your own wife as your manager like in case of Błachowicz then sorry but I can't say you are a real professional fighter,
Come on now. That doesn't negate the fact that he is a real professional fighter. Do you even have any data on her managerial skills before making that statement or did you just say it because you don't think highly of a wife being part an athlete's team?

Blachowitz has eight defeats so far, lost from many fighters like Thiago Santos, Patrick Cummins, Gustafsson, Corey Anderson, Jimi Manuwa...  and he would never be a champion with Jon Jones staying in this division.
That is the truth and I would add that he is not very intelligent fighter at all, strong yes, intelligent no.
The only fact here is that he lost to those fighters mentioned. Him not becoming a champ with Jones around is your version of the truth.

What's the standard before you can call someone an intelligent fighter? Someone that fights according to your knowledge?
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February 27, 2021, 02:33:22 AM

Both kickboxers, but Gane showed more versatility when it came to finishing fights, seeing he can mix it up between standup and submissions (arm-triangle and heel hook) and we didn't get to see much of his offensive wrestling, but what we did see in the Mayes fight showed us that he actually does have some skills in that department and can very well mix it up with the kickboxing. Some of his movement on the ground was admirable for someone in that division. I actually missed the Boser fight so don't know what happened there but all in all, Gane is one heck of a prospect in the division.

Also Hill, Caseres and Rivera are on the card. They tend to have good bouts over all so not a bad watch on the main card.

I totally agree, Ciryl Gane is most versatile when it comes to standup and submission that is why he can choose on how he can fight with his opponent and what better approach he can put to win the fight I am splitting my decision because he can not underestimate Rozenstruik power to TKO anybody,

after thinking and seeing recent fights of Ciryl Gane and Jairzinho Rozenstruik I think Ciryl Gane has a slight edge, over Rozenstruik if he's going to give his all by not underestimating his opponent and play it safe he would surely win that match, and I can not wait to surely see that.
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February 26, 2021, 05:26:02 PM
Amateur fighter as the champion in one of the toughest divisions in the UFC Cheesy. Israel Adesanya have the skills as a striker but his ground game is zero and you cannot fight the elite with zero ground skills.

Well if you have your own wife as your manager like in case of Błachowicz then sorry but I can't say you are a real professional fighter,
and saying Adesanya with perfect 100% record has zero ground game, is such a bs not worth even responding.

Blachowitz has eight defeats so far, lost from many fighters like Thiago Santos, Patrick Cummins, Gustafsson, Corey Anderson, Jimi Manuwa...  and he would never be a champion with Jon Jones staying in this division.
That is the truth and I would add that he is not very intelligent fighter at all, strong yes, intelligent no.
If you are so sure in his game than bet on him please, I see odds are very nice Smiley
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February 26, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
UFC Fight Night: Rozenstruik vs. Gane




Wow! This is really a great fight to see, both fighters are a kickboxer we can see in the heavyweight's divisions that both fighters can sure kick a mainly rare sight to see, with this I can sure say that this will be a heated battle Jairzinho Rozenstruik beat Andrei Arlovski, Alistair Overeem and Junior Dos Santos and I am noting here that with Rozenstruik VS Overeem fight Overeem has suffered the worst looking injuries here and that is because of Rozenstruik,

And with Ciryl Gane this is one good dude, with his kicks and elbow strikes combo and submission move that Rozenstruik doesn't have and I need to take note here Gane's fight between Tanner Bowser the only fight where he has a unanimous decision, he really did great there and eventually, he needs to change and apply all that he learned on the Bowser fight to Junior Dos Santos,

my decision is split at the moment on who's going to win here but probably I think Ciryl Gane can make a hole and have Rozenstruik another loss.

Both kickboxers, but Gane showed more versatility when it came to finishing fights, seeing he can mix it up between standup and submissions (arm-triangle and heel hook) and we didn't get to see much of his offensive wrestling, but what we did see in the Mayes fight showed us that he actually does have some skills in that department and can very well mix it up with the kickboxing. Some of his movement on the ground was admirable for someone in that division. I actually missed the Boser fight so don't know what happened there but all in all, Gane is one heck of a prospect in the division.

Also Hill, Caseres and Rivera are on the card. They tend to have good bouts over all so not a bad watch on the main card.
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February 26, 2021, 08:35:12 AM
And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
Israel Adesanya feels confident and even though he is challenging Jon Jones he claims that he was not ready to fight him but he was ready to fight Jan Błachowicz for the title. It is not going to be easy and i am also rooting for Jan Błachowicz to win the fight because i remember the Marvin Vettori fight where Israel Adesanya struggled on the feet.

Blachowicz looks like an amateur fighter to me and I don't think he can compete with Adesanya on same level, but he is heavier and probably have stronger punches so we shall see who wins very soon.
Amateur fighter as the champion in one of the toughest divisions in the UFC Cheesy. Israel Adesanya have the skills as a striker but his ground game is zero and you cannot fight the elite with zero ground skills. Jan Błachowicz has Muay Thai background and that is how his powerful kicks comes in and he has the ground game with a black belt in BJJ on the other hand Israel Adesanya is an Amateur in the ground  Cheesy Tongue.

Oh I’m rooting for Adesanya for sure.  I think I was the only guy who was big on him when he was coming up.  But then again I think I was just one of the very few who watches all the matches per event..  Even the low level ones.  Lol.

But it’s good to see more and more of you guys are starting to watch all the matches.  

Anyway, but for this spot, I think the lines should be a little closer.

As for Blachowicz looking like an amateur fighter..  Dunno about that.  I think Dominic Reyes thought the same and got his nose broken.  Cheesy  You guys watch it.

UFC Free Fight:  Blachowicz vs Reyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qkpmED9Vl0
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February 26, 2021, 07:33:39 AM
If Adesanya moves to next division, will he be able to beat all the fighters there? Anyone ever researched that ? Frankly, Blachowicz does not sound as a tough opponent. If he beats him, other fighters in light heavy does not seems difficult to win also. Just wondering if he could repeat Khabibs 29-0 record. Only 8 fights left Smiley
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February 26, 2021, 12:04:58 AM
And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
Blachowicz looks like an amateur fighter to me and I don't think he can compete with Adesanya on same level, but he is heavier and probably have stronger punches so we shall see who wins very soon.
I don't know if you ever saw Adesanya aka Black Dragon holding Chinese flag while he was fighting in China for their promotion Smiley
https://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2018/02/28/china-internet-rallies-behind-ufc-rising-prospect-because-they-mistakenly-believe

Adesanya is currently unstoppable whenever he steps in the ring and there are so many fighters whom he faced in his lasts fight that thought they can beat him easily and woke up to the ugly truth that they can't even hurt him. Now that he has a clean 20-0-0 record, it is understandable that he will give a chance to some opponents who don't have the same prestige as the last fighters he fought. He is giving them a chance to make a name for themselves in case he beat him or they gave him a close fight. Of course, UFC is making a marketing move here because with another new fighter rising to become a champion, their market will increase as well.
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February 25, 2021, 11:38:53 PM
And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
Israel Adesanya feels confident and even though he is challenging Jon Jones he claims that he was not ready to fight him but he was ready to fight Jan Błachowicz for the title. It is not going to be easy and i am also rooting for Jan Błachowicz to win the fight because i remember the Marvin Vettori fight where Israel Adesanya struggled on the feet.

Blachowicz looks like an amateur fighter to me and I don't think he can compete with Adesanya on same level, but he is heavier and probably have stronger punches so we shall see who wins very soon.
Amateur fighter as the champion in one of the toughest divisions in the UFC Cheesy. Israel Adesanya have the skills as a striker but his ground game is zero and you cannot fight the elite with zero ground skills. Jan Błachowicz has Muay Thai background and that is how his powerful kicks comes in and he has the ground game with a black belt in BJJ on the other hand Israel Adesanya is an Amateur in the ground  Cheesy Tongue.

I surely get the feeling that Jan Blachowicz is a devastating fighter to face, and when he comes against Dominic Reyes he is a monster and looking on it he had dominated him so much that people are seeing who's really going to win,

But still I will go with Israel Adesanya the way he dominated Paulo Costa that many people think he might lose is much awesome the style bender will surely have something on his sleeves for Blachowicz and I think he can intelligently make a way in winning even the most crucial adversary
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February 25, 2021, 06:26:06 PM
And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
Israel Adesanya feels confident and even though he is challenging Jon Jones he claims that he was not ready to fight him but he was ready to fight Jan Błachowicz for the title. It is not going to be easy and i am also rooting for Jan Błachowicz to win the fight because i remember the Marvin Vettori fight where Israel Adesanya struggled on the feet.

Blachowicz looks like an amateur fighter to me and I don't think he can compete with Adesanya on same level, but he is heavier and probably have stronger punches so we shall see who wins very soon.
Amateur fighter as the champion in one of the toughest divisions in the UFC Cheesy. Israel Adesanya have the skills as a striker but his ground game is zero and you cannot fight the elite with zero ground skills. Jan Błachowicz has Muay Thai background and that is how his powerful kicks comes in and he has the ground game with a black belt in BJJ on the other hand Israel Adesanya is an Amateur in the ground  Cheesy Tongue.
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February 25, 2021, 02:23:05 PM
And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
Blachowicz looks like an amateur fighter to me and I don't think he can compete with Adesanya on same level, but he is heavier and probably have stronger punches so we shall see who wins very soon.
I don't know if you ever saw Adesanya aka Black Dragon holding Chinese flag while he was fighting in China for their promotion Smiley
https://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2018/02/28/china-internet-rallies-behind-ufc-rising-prospect-because-they-mistakenly-believe
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February 25, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
I’m one of those people who believes that a fighter needs to lose in order to grow.  

They can lose, but better to lose before they sign for UFC or they can get out quicker than they came in.
Just look at Israel Adesanya and Khabib Nurmagamedov, who both have perfect records on paper without lost fight, but who knows how many fights they lost outside mma, in training, or in amateur unrecorded fights at younger age.

Bonus Resume: Israel Adesanya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SshX1K7oVo8

Well yeah..  But both those guys are the exception not the norm, esp Khabib.  And they had way more experience in MMA before going to the UFC.  Cyril Gane not that much.  So I think he loses a couple before he gets to the top.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/79163-israel-adesanya

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/18536-khabib-nurmagomedov

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/187819-cyril-gane-real-c

And I have bad feeling with Adesanya in is upcoming bout vs Blachowicz tbh.  I’m leaning on Blachowicz for that one atm.
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February 25, 2021, 01:31:46 AM
UFC Fight Night: Rozenstruik vs. Gane




Wow! This is really a great fight to see, both fighters are a kickboxer we can see in the heavyweight's divisions that both fighters can sure kick a mainly rare sight to see, with this I can sure say that this will be a heated battle Jairzinho Rozenstruik beat Andrei Arlovski, Alistair Overeem and Junior Dos Santos and I am noting here that with Rozenstruik VS Overeem fight Overeem has suffered the worst looking injuries here and that is because of Rozenstruik,

And with Ciryl Gane this is one good dude, with his kicks and elbow strikes combo and submission move that Rozenstruik doesn't have and I need to take note here Gane's fight between Tanner Bowser the only fight where he has a unanimous decision, he really did great there and eventually, he needs to change and apply all that he learned on the Bowser fight to Junior Dos Santos,

my decision is split at the moment on who's going to win here but probably I think Ciryl Gane can make a hole and have Rozenstruik another loss.
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February 25, 2021, 12:25:03 AM
Here are a couple of tapes to watch if some of you guys are planning to bet on the main event.  I really think Rozenstruik is being disrespected here.  And Gane has like what..  7 wins, no losses?  I’m one of those people who believes that a fighter needs to lose in order to grow.  But dunno if this is the spot to fade the favorite.

Free Fight:  Gane vs Junior Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uWta4RJ5Tc

Free Fight:  Rozenstruik vs Junior Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZR5EVDE2m4

Enjoy.  Smiley

Agreed. We have also witnessed this recently on the last main event battle between Razor Blaydes and Derrick Lewis. Many of the gamblers favored that it would be Blaydes. However, the winner was different hehehe.

The result will be volatile because this is a heavyweight fight where fighters can knockout their opponents on any round.

Where is @mich? He will like this. Montana, my sexy bet for this event hehe.


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February 24, 2021, 06:42:05 PM
Here are a couple of tapes to watch if some of you guys are planning to bet on the main event.  I really think Rozenstruik is being disrespected here.  And Gane has like what..  7 wins, no losses?  I’m one of those people who believes that a fighter needs to lose in order to grow.  But dunno if this is the spot to fade the favorite.
The problem here is that both these fighters are talented and the UFC could have build them up and made this an exciting match up in the future rather than making them fight now but they do not give that option of showcasing to many fighters. Jairzinho Rozenstruik was on a strong run up before facing Francis Ngannou and with all the trash talking ended up sleeping and Ciryl Gane has the opportunity to move up the ladder if he defeats Rozenstruik and a couple of wins he could challenge the champion and both these fighters last fought Junior dos Santos.
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February 24, 2021, 02:46:13 PM
I’m one of those people who believes that a fighter needs to lose in order to grow.  

They can lose, but better to lose before they sign for UFC or they can get out quicker than they came in.
Just look at Israel Adesanya and Khabib Nurmagamedov, who both have perfect records on paper without lost fight, but who knows how many fights they lost outside mma, in training, or in amateur unrecorded fights at younger age.

Bonus Resume: Israel Adesanya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SshX1K7oVo8
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February 24, 2021, 07:29:33 AM
Here are a couple of tapes to watch if some of you guys are planning to bet on the main event.  I really think Rozenstruik is being disrespected here.  And Gane has like what..  7 wins, no losses?  I’m one of those people who believes that a fighter needs to lose in order to grow.  But dunno if this is the spot to fade the favorite.

Free Fight:  Gane vs Junior Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uWta4RJ5Tc

Free Fight:  Rozenstruik vs Junior Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZR5EVDE2m4

Enjoy.  Smiley
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February 23, 2021, 09:48:03 AM
UFC Fight Night: Blaydes vs. Lewis

^ This is not Blaydes vs Lewis, they just finished fighting and I doubt will go in octagon again so early Smiley

Brazilian fighter Raoni Barcelos tested positive on covid19 and he is out from UFC Fight Night 186, and Marcelo Rojo will be fighting with new opponent on short notice.

With exception of looking the main event Rozenstruik vs Ciryl Gane and fight Magomed Ankalaev vs Nikita Krylov, I will most likely skip the rest of the fights and wait for next UFC 259 and Adesanya.

update: Randy Brown is also and UFC is looking for new opponent for Alex Oliveira.


Alex Caceres vs Kevin Croom is interesting.  I’m not high on Caceres and seems like the match is mispriced by the books.  It should be closer so there’s value on Croom.  And take note that he’s with Glory Fitness MMA training under James Kraus.  They should have a good game plan lined up. 

I also like William Knight in this spot.  Menefield has bad cardio.  And tbh, the lines on Rozenstruik and Krylov are off too imo.
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February 23, 2021, 08:32:24 AM
UFC Fight Night: Blaydes vs. Lewis

^ This is not Blaydes vs Lewis, they just finished fighting and I doubt will go in octagon again so early Smiley


Oooops! No wonder why Lewis looked so white skinned on the poster and Blaydes has such a little beard Cheesy

I will most likely skip the rest of the fights and wait for next UFC 259 and Adesanya.

I think I will do the same. UFC 259 looks like a very-very special event; 3 champ fight, with two of them against top1 contender.
Also Thiago Santos and Islam Makhachev are always interesting to watch. All the fights in main card are advised not to miss.
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