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Quote from: pereira4 on October 07, 2019, 11:22:45 AM

It will be the biggest fight EVER on the UFC, surpassing the first match. All the naysayers saying "we don't want to see Conor beat up again by Khabib, it's already done" will be buying and watching, or perhaps only watching... but still watching at the end of the day.

There is no doubt that Khabib rematching against Conor will be another highest grossing PPV and that is the reason Dana White is also really interested in this match up.

Quote from: pereira4 on October 07, 2019, 11:22:45 AM

Odds will obviously be for a Khabib stoppage, the money will be in betting for a Conor win. My strategy is to put money on Conor by UD, there is no other way I see Conor winning, maybe SD if super close. I don't see him stopping Khabib, however, and believe it or not, I see Conor being able to stay away from the fence for some sounds and force Khabib to be on the feet.

There is no way Conor will have the stamina to last five rounds with Khabib, the only situation i see is a flash knock out and if it goes the second round then there is no way Conor is going to beat Khabib.

Quote from: pereira4 on October 07, 2019, 11:22:45 AM

He is going to need to improve his cardio a lot, his stamina has to be ready for the last 2 rounds. I think people are underrating Conor's grappling, he did actually pretty good on fight 1, the nightmare comes when he is pushed against the fence, he has to avoid that.

Conor has a great take down defense against average wrestlers but Khabib is on another level when it comes to grappling, it is not that easy to improve the cardio just like that, if that was that easy he would have done that already before fighting in the UFC Cheesy

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Quote from: pereira4 on October 07, 2019, 11:22:45 AM

But first, we need to see how it goes for Tony, but the good news for Conor fans is that it doesn't matter the outcome, the rematch is happening 100% assuming Conor doesn't fight before the rematch and losses.. perhaps that would kill the buzz, so if he fights he MUST win.

Tony is the fight we need to see against Khabib and in the mean time Conor has to fight someone else, Dustin Poirier will be the perfect opponent for Cornor as both lost against Khabib and they faced each other at 145 pounds.

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Quote from: TravelMug on October 04, 2019, 04:11:07 PM

^^ Right. Let Khabib finished Tony first and let's see how Dana will set up this fight.

I'm sure Dana in a hear beat will organised everything and set up a rematch. After all it will bring more money in UFC specially if it will be held in a hostile environment such as Russia. I don't know how will Conor will market this fight, I mean will he go that route attack, (attacking Khabib's wife and religion etc.)

It will be the biggest fight EVER on the UFC, surpassing the first match. All the naysayers saying "we don't want to see Conor beat up again by Khabib, it's already done" will be buying and watching, or perhaps only watching... but still watching at the end of the day. Odds will obviously be for a Khabib stoppage, the money will be in betting for a Conor win. My strategy is to put money on Conor by UD, there is no other way I see Conor winning, maybe SD if super close. I don't see him stopping Khabib, however, and believe it or not, I see Conor being able to stay away from the fence for some sounds and force Khabib to be on the feet. He is going to need to improve his cardio a lot, his stamina has to be ready for the last 2 rounds. I think people are underrating Conor's grappling, he did actually pretty good on fight 1, the nightmare comes when he is pushed against the fence, he has to avoid that.

But first, we need to see how it goes for Tony, but the good news for Conor fans is that it doesn't matter the outcome, the rematch is happening 100% assuming Conor doesn't fight before the rematch and losses.. perhaps that would kill the buzz, so if he fights he MUST win.

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 07, 2019, 07:00:17 AM

I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
Sparks started with comments from both sides.
Jon Jones tweet:
https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1181068889536389120

Jones is owning Adesanya even on social media. I know Israel is still young but he's too sensitive with these war of words against Jon.

I'm pretty sure Dana is loving what's happening between the two. It's good money if they can make it work.

I remember Jones saying he was inspired by McGregor before and that's probably why he's taunting. He wants to get paid big time too.

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I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
Sparks started with comments from both sides.
Jon Jones tweet:
https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1181068889536389120

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$50,000 Performance of the Night Bonus goes to Israel Adesanya, Yorgan De Castro and Fight of the Night award went to Brad Riddell and Jamie Mullarkey. This is the 6th Fight of the Night award for Israel Adesanya out of the seven UFC event appearance that he made. Now I am wondering what was that event that his fight was not appreciated by UFC.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on October 06, 2019, 10:24:23 PM

I speculate that Conor will be less on Dana's priorities now that he has found his new pet in Israel Adesanya hehehe.

Dana White is a good businessman and he knows how to make money and which fighters to promote at the right time, with Conor McGregor he was able to get fans from Ireland and England and with Israel Adesanya he is able to capture the Australian and New Zealand fans along with the African fan base, Conor did loose a lot of fans because of his outside antics by fighting old people in bar and he is not having any easy fights to return back to MMA too.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on October 06, 2019, 10:24:23 PM

I speculate that Conor will be less on Dana's priorities now that he has found his new pet in Israel Adesanya hehehe.

Most probably because Adesanya is the current man of the hour. I will not be surprised it becomes avreality because Adesanya and McGregor got the same attitude — they're both cocky. Those kind of fighters had great showmanship which attracts more viewers due to the hype. More viewers means more ticket sales and more pay per view, more viewers means more sponsors too because huge crowd are very effective for advertising. So the result is kaching kaching! $$$.

However, of course as an owner you would choose to focus more on who recently gives you tons of money so goodbye McGregor for the meantime and hello Adesanya Grin

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I speculate that Conor will be less on Dana's priorities now that he has found his new pet in Israel Adesanya hehehe.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 09:10:13 AM

^ Relax guys. I don't see the Jones-Adesanya fight happening either.

Indeed. Let them be the king of their own divisions Grin

. Besides, it was a mismatch right at the very beginning since they got different weight class. If we insisted one should adjust (whether Jones will go down or Adesanya will go up) then we only might see a fast and boring match.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 09:10:13 AM

I have nothing against Costa but trashtalking doesn't work with some fighters. It doesn't help them at all.

We're the opposite. I rellly enjoy such kind of drama because this is where the story of every rivalry starts. Bring it on! I want to see Ricky Martin fight against him lol.

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The fight is probably going to end up in a knockout and we will see them swinging from the get go. I hope this fight lives up to expectations.

It really ended in a knockout as Adesanya knocked out Whittaker in Round 2. Flawless movement of the head and the reach advantage of Adesanya really helped him get the victory. To be honest, I like how Israel move when Whittaker goes on offense. So many head kick misses too and that huge counter punch that knocks him out Cheesy

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The alias "bender" was perfectly showcased in this fight. He was rolling through the punches & kicks and that must have been so frustrating for Whittaker. Punching and kicking air probably made him commit more which is a huge mistake against skillful strikers with longer reach.

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I just watched short UFC 243 Recap video of Daniel Cormier
for new UFC middleweight champion Israel Adesanya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByiW8Y0i38E

and Chael Sonnen post fight comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z07wZ3oSawc

My dream fight would be Adesanya vs Jon Jones ....but I am not sure this will ever happen Grin

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Quote from: notblox1 on October 06, 2019, 06:57:59 AM

Fantastic fight for Last Stylebedner Adesanya!
I predicted clean win for him but I could not predict KO with great odds.

Best skills in UFC at the moment, like watching Matrix movie in real life
'Ricky Martin' will lose 1000%

Watch after fight all interviews here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2kFyQtOx1s

only Adesanya interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utziHLzKwI

Interesting but it would be even more if you had posted the results, don't you think?

UFC 243 card/results

Israel Adesanya (c) def. Robert Whittaker via second-round TKO (punches)
Dan Hooker def. Al Iaquinta via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-26)
Serghei Spivak def. Tai Tuivasa via second-round submission (triangle choke)
Dhiego Lima def. Luke Jumeau via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
Yorgan De Castro def. Justin Tafa via first-round TKO (punch)
Jake Matthews def. Rostem Akman via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
Callan Potter def. Maki Pitolo via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
Brad Riddell def. Jamie Mullarkey via unanimous decision (29-27, 30-26, 30-26)
Megan Anderson def. Zarah Fairn via first-round submission (triangle choke)

https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-243-results-highlights-israel-adesanya-claims-middleweight-crown-with-violent-tko-of-robert-whittaker/

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Quote from: eaLiTy on October 06, 2019, 10:56:41 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 06, 2019, 10:16:34 AM

Adesanya will own Costa. IMHO. We've seen how he fights. He's on another level... Like Jon Jones, Anderson Silva (in his prime) and Khabib.
I think we have a new dominant MW champ.

Israel Adesanya has the potential to be a dominant MW champion as his stand up skills are outstanding, but if he faces an outstanding wrestler or a grappler then we will understand how resilient he can be. Jon Jones is outstanding in stand up as well as in the ground and Anderson Silva was also had good ground game and Khabib is a different animal altogether.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 09:10:13 AM

I have nothing against Costa but trashtalking doesn't work with some fighters. It doesn't help them at all.

He might be a good trash talker in Portuguese, he might not be fluent in English but everyone will be fluent in their mother tongue.

A total loss for me I never knew that Israel Adesanya would be dominant against Whittaker, its a total bunkers I have seen a potential in him but facing Adesanya consider that he is the undisputed UFC Middleweight Champion by taking a TKO win over Whittaker I didn't really expect something like this might happen but seeing Adesanya build has come to me second though and I am not looking at their body measures, but I am still cool and Adesanya deserve it he just win it in style so congrats to him for now because I think if he would face a grappler in the ring then that will e a different story.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 06, 2019, 10:16:34 AM

Adesanya will own Costa. IMHO. We've seen how he fights. He's on another level... Like Jon Jones, Anderson Silva (in his prime) and Khabib.
I think we have a new dominant MW champ.

Israel Adesanya has the potential to be a dominant MW champion as his stand up skills are outstanding, but if he faces an outstanding wrestler or a grappler then we will understand how resilient he can be. Jon Jones is outstanding in stand up as well as in the ground and Anderson Silva was also had good ground game and Khabib is a different animal altogether.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 09:10:13 AM

I have nothing against Costa but trashtalking doesn't work with some fighters. It doesn't help them at all.

He might be a good trash talker in Portuguese, he might not be fluent in English but everyone will be fluent in their mother tongue.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 06, 2019, 04:42:43 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 06, 2019, 04:29:47 AM

Adensanya is for real, lol, I thought Robert will win this one, but Israel was very quick and has the guts to go toe to toe with Robert and he caught him before the end of round one and I said that it will be over. I think the quickness, movements are the key to his win here. Congrats to those who bet on Adensanya.

The next challenger is in line for Israel Adesanya as Paulo Costa will be facing him for the title and that is yet another big fight as both are undefeated fighters and if the UFC can promote it the right way, then it will be yet another huge fight, Paulo Costa looks like a model and i really liked the way in which Israel Adesanya trolled him and called Costa as Ricky Martin wannabe Cheesy

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@ if anyone is able to inform how to watch the prelims that would be great.

Adesanya will own Costa. IMHO. We've seen how he fights. He's on another level... Like Jon Jones, Anderson Silva (in his prime) and Khabib.

I think we have a new dominant MW champ.

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^ Aside from the belt, Costa knows most fans eyes are on Adesanya and he probably wants that same attention too. Every fighter believes they are better than the other and they'll try to make a money or title fight happen sooner through trashtalking. Some have desperately tried that in the past but failed.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 09:10:13 AM

^ Relax guys. I don't see the Jones-Adesanya fight happening either. I only thought it's the one that can exceed the Adesanya-Whittaker match.

I have nothing against Costa but trashtalking doesn't work with some fighters. It doesn't help them at all.

On the contrary, trash talking brings the best out of the best of any fighter. I don't know Costa obsession with Adesanya though, when he opens his mouth, he seems to target him. Maybe because Adensanya has the belt and he thinks he can beat him easily.

But this fight proves that Adesanya could be the next superstar because he has the tools and he prove me wrong against Whittaker.

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^ Relax guys. I don't see the Jones-Adesanya fight happening either. I only thought it's the one that can exceed the Adesanya-Whittaker match.

I have nothing against Costa but trashtalking doesn't work with some fighters. It doesn't help them at all.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 07:14:22 AM

It won't be as big as his fight with Robert Whittaker.
Ideally, the next big fight for him is Jon Jones because of their war of words and popularity but that won't happen unless they both agree for a catchweight.

Paulo Costa is a Brazilian super star and Israel Adesanya has some star powers and he might be able to attract big crowds if he is fighting with his outspoken character, do not feed him to Jon Jones now, i can bet that Jon Jones will eat him alive as he is much bigger and stronger and creative than any other fighter in MMA, we need to wait for that for sometime, let Israel Adesanya defend his belt and create a reputation and then challenge Jon Jones.

Quote from: Jating on October 06, 2019, 08:22:54 AM

Jon is too big for Adensanya and I don't think that he has a chance as well. Let him defend his belt for a while and see how it goes for him. He needs to win more and clean up that division first.

Sure there are more challenges for Adesanya in his division and if he is able to clean out the division then he could challenge Jon Jones. I do not see anyone defeated Jon Jones but it will be an interesting fight.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 06, 2019, 07:14:22 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 06, 2019, 04:42:43 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on October 06, 2019, 04:29:47 AM

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The next challenger is in line for Israel Adesanya as Paulo Costa will be facing him for the title and that is yet another big fight as both are undefeated fighters and if the UFC can promote it the right way, then it will be yet another huge fight, Paulo Costa looks like a model and i really liked the way in which Israel Adesanya trolled him and called Costa as Ricky Martin wannabe Cheesy

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It won't be as big as his fight with Robert Whittaker.

Ideally, the next big fight for him is Jon Jones because of their war of words and popularity but that won't happen unless they both agree for a catchweight.

I agree but this Paulo Costa has been opening his mouth, trash talking Adesanya for many months now. So let Adensanya shot this guy mouth first and then chase another big fights in the future. I don't think that Jones are going to give Adesanya a fight though.

Jon is too big for Adensanya and I don't think that he has a chance as well. Let him defend his belt for a while and see how it goes for him. He needs to win more and clean up that division first.

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