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December 11, 2023, 02:06:31 AM
Can you guys give me your comments please on Alexandre Pantoja. I am not very familiar with flyweight division guy. Dont know much who he is. He took the belt from Moreno. So what? Was is skill? Luck? Or Moreno was sich that day? I can check Pantoja record, but that will be just paper math. I can google him, but that will be highlights mostly.

Pantoja is a fighter who has beaten Moreno twice before. And his victory in the fight for the belt yesterday was his third victory against Moreno. Pantoja is actually a good fighter. It's just matchmaking that made him unlucky to get the title shot. I don't know about the other 3 losing records but Pantoja has only lost to Figuerido and Askar Askarov in this division. What's interesting is that Pantoja beat Rovyal in 2021. So I think this co-main event will be very interesting to watch.
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December 10, 2023, 07:34:45 PM
Conor McGregor seems to be making some public appearances these days. He looks a lot smaller now to me then just a few months ago when he was filming for his movie role. He’s taking some heat on social media for facing off with Peter Yan but it seemed harmless enough. Also a good story with the kid from years ago winning his first fight at the event.
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December 10, 2023, 03:02:45 PM
The result of my picks and predictions for the UFC Fight Night Song vs. Gutierrez and pretty much I got a bad luck on this event

Yadong Song (1.28) VS Chris Gutierrez (3.75) - LOST


This fight doesn't have any controversies at all but Chris Gutierrez might be asking if he can beat Yadong, as he was not 100% prepared for this fight Song Yadong was great with his striking and very dominant with the scramble on the ground he was controlling Chris Gutierrez, and Gutierrez also complaints a lot in this fight and that half-hearted Imanari roll and got nowhere near Song Yadong that surely even the Legendary Masakazu Imanari will be ashamed of, most of Yadong's takedowns was a success and he surely controls the top he is pretty much good at Scrambling for sure and so it was a decision win for Yadong,

Anthony Smith (2.65) VS Khalil Rountree Jr. (1.49) - LOST


For sure this is the time for Anthony Smith to retire after this fight I was wrong in betting for Anthony Smith and Khalil Rountree Jr. looks amazing with that Left hook power and Anthony Smith wobbles so hard that he was like in the Loony Toons, for sure Anthony Smith needs to retire now and Rountree Jr. has come to this fight on short notice so for sure that was a great fight for him, and now he wants to fight Alex Pereira next,

Nasrat Haqparast (1.50) VS Jamie Mullarkey (2.60) - WIN


Nasrat Haqparast was really focused and that accuracy that landed on Mullarkey and took him down like that was really something the barrage of punches from him sure damaged Mullarkjey for sure and you can see when Jamie Mullarkey was still standing he gave him another big strike that knocks out Mullarkey for good that the ref has to stop the fight,
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December 10, 2023, 11:23:50 AM
Can you guys give me your comments please on Alexandre Pantoja. I am not very familiar with flyweight division guy. Dont know much who he is. He took the belt from Moreno. So what? Was is skill? Luck? Or Moreno was sich that day? I can check Pantoja record, but that will be just paper math. I can google him, but that will be highlights mostly.

he lost a fight with Figue but won twice against Moreno, these 2 wins could be the substance in many discussions but because it's not very impressive i guess he just got lucky twice.

observation shows we don't appreciate MMA fighters who are up to controlling the fights, those fighters who has control over the fight are not impressive cause we always want to see fighters who can KO with their hooks. in their fight, Monero has to keep his guard all the time. he will do the same with Brandon Royval.
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December 10, 2023, 11:00:10 AM

Ive made boredom double leg takedown and TKOed it. Easy fight (however fight went almost full distance, spent almost an hour there) . Got EBMF (similar to BMF baddest mf) belt from technician that restarted elevator and got me out.

Anyway, my youtube notified me with clickbait video that Arman Tsarukyan is suspended from fighting for 180 days. Thought that it is something serious, but that is only doctors suspension. Probably he has got an injury in last fight (or docs just gonna check that). While Dariush, that got KOed, got only 30 day suspension. I guess we would have to wait a bit till we see Tsarukyan next fight.

An Hour? WOW! That was really something man, for sure it took a long time for you because in that span of an hour, you can do so much with it, even posting in the forum but for sure you are now safe, and pretty much that will go in your experience and a story to tell that you have struggling to fight with the Elevator,

Well from what I have gathered he will be suspended for 30 days and also suspended for 180 days unless medically cleared,  so if he can cleared all that he will not have to be given a break for sure, but for Beneil Dariush and Bobby Green that is an automatic suspension for them,



The result of my bet on the UFC Fight Night 233

Yadong Song VS Chris Gutierrez ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

Song Yadong was great he was in control of the fight from start to finish although Chris Gutierrez accidentally poked him in the eye even though he was poked in the eye Song Yadong still is dominant throughout the entire fight in Striking and even on the ground Yadong was controlling the fight from start to finish for sure his wrestling game increased so much is readying it in his fight against Petr Yan, for sure that is his main goal, and he even said it in his octagon interview that he wants Petr Yan next,

Anthony Smith VS Khalil Rountree Jr. ROUND 3 KO/TKO - WIN

Khalil Rountree Jr. was so much better than Anthony Smith and for sure Rountree Jr. was really reserved in this fight there were so many strikes for Rountree in this fight and for sure in the striking Khalil Rountree Jr. is so much faster and for sure has power in his strikes, but for sure it was showcase late in the 3rd round, but Anthony Smith try to takedown Rountree 2 times but it was not successful because Rountree is good at takedown defense, and so it was a lost for Anthony Smith and Siriously I think Anthony Smith needs to retire after this fight,

Tatsuro Taira VS Carlos Hernandez ROUND 2 KO/TKO - WIN

It was a dominant performance for Tatsuro Taira it was really a great fight from the Striking even with the ground game just like I expected and what I have said Taira is pretty much dominant and he is still undefeated in this fight, it was clear that Taturo Taira is special aswell and from his last fight I can see that his striking has also improve and controlling his opponent not only in the ground but also in the stand-up,


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December 10, 2023, 10:53:33 AM
Can you guys give me your comments please on Alexandre Pantoja. I am not very familiar with flyweight division guy. Dont know much who he is. He took the belt from Moreno. So what? Was is skill? Luck? Or Moreno was sich that day? I can check Pantoja record, but that will be just paper math. I can google him, but that will be highlights mostly.
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December 10, 2023, 08:17:30 AM
Yup, as pitting Tsarukyan vs Makhachev next would be anti climactic imho.  We already know Makhachev is gonna win it.

There's no way that fight will be happening until Arman gets more recognition by defeating another top opponent. Letting him fight for the title now would be a massive wasting of earning potential.
But if they were to fight, I don't think Tsarukyan would be without chance. He gave Islam a bit of a hard time in their first fight and he definitely improved since then and is now more experienced.

Makhachev improved by a lot too...  Won vs Volk and won vs Oliveira.  As of now we really can't be sure of Tsarukyan until he fights somebody like Justin Gaetje or Chandler even who's a tough dude.

But yeah...  We'll just have to see next year.

Anyway here's the event everybody has been waiting for.  Smiley  And it's the last event of the year.  It's gonna be around three weeks for the next one.  -_-

Date:  Saturday, December 16
Main Card (PPV):  10:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  8:00pm EST
Early Prelims (ESPN+/Fight Pass):  6:15pm EST
Venue:  T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:




Main Card (PPV)
Leon Edwards vs Colby Covington
Alexandre Pantoja vs Brandon Royval
Shavkat Rakhmonov vs Stephen Thompson   
Tony Ferguson vs Paddy Pimblett
Vicente Luque vs Ian Machado Garry

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Josh Emmett vs Bryce Mitchell
Irene Aldana vs Karol Rosa
Cody Garbrandt vs Brian Kelleher
Casey O'Neill vs Ariane Lipski

Early Prelims (ESPN+/UFC Fight Pass
Alonzo Menifield vs Dustin Jacoby   
Tagir Ulanbekov vs Cody Durden   
Andre Fili vs Lucas Almeida
Martin Buday vs Shamil Gaziev
Randy Brown vs Muslim Salikhov

^ Bangers from top to bottom imho.
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December 10, 2023, 05:29:56 AM

I really don't want to laugh as for me getting stuck in an elevator is not a laughing matter, actually, I am more curious and worried about what happened to you and if are you now OK.

Ive made boredom double leg takedown and TKOed it. Easy fight (however fight went almost full distance, spent almost an hour there) . Got EBMF (similar to BMF baddest mf) belt from technician that restarted elevator and got me out.

Anyway, my youtube notified me with clickbait video that Arman Tsarukyan is suspended from fighting for 180 days. Thought that it is something serious, but that is only doctors suspension. Probably he has got an injury in last fight (or docs just gonna check that). While Dariush, that got KOed, got only 30 day suspension. I guess we would have to wait a bit till we see Tsarukyan next fight.
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December 10, 2023, 04:27:37 AM
Yup, as pitting Tsarukyan vs Makhachev next would be anti climactic imho.  We already know Makhachev is gonna win it.

There's no way that fight will be happening until Arman gets more recognition by defeating another top opponent. Letting him fight for the title now would be a massive wasting of earning potential.
But if they were to fight, I don't think Tsarukyan would be without chance. He gave Islam a bit of a hard time in their first fight and he definitely improved since then and is now more experienced.

Arman is very young, and he has excellent wrestling. I could even say that Arman has wrestling at the same level as Islam. This can be seen from the first match where they both have the same level of wrestling. This means that Islam cannot rely on his wrestling in matches and has to play standing fights. And here Arman has good striking, this can be seen from Arman's last few matches. So I think the bookie will not make odds that far between the two.
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December 09, 2023, 09:28:20 PM
Now going into the event in UFC Fight Night Song vs. Gutierrez this is my pick and prediction,

Yadong Song (1.28) VS Chris Gutierrez (3.75)


For me, Song Yadong is very well-rounded going into this fight his striking is just decent but when it comes to grappling and wrestling Song Yadong is just good while Chris Gutierrez has good takedown defense so good that for sure if Yadong's takedowns aren't working then Chris Gutierrez might get a great pace in getting those strikes on him, well I really like the underdog in this fight so my pick is Chris Gutierrez,

Anthony Smith (2.65) VS Khalil Rountree Jr. (1.49)


For me, Anthony Smith is much larger than Khalil Rountree Jr. He can surely get that wrestling in him for sure Rountree Jr, might get knockdown in this fight if Smith has success with those takedowns, and as Anthony Smith is the Lionheart and he is not a fighter that will eventually give-up but Rountree with his size has more power than Smith but for me, I will be more on the wrestling for this fight so my pick is Anthony Smith,

Nasrat Haqparast (1.50) VS Jamie Mullarkey (2.60)


Both of these fighters have the same style for sure but I like Nasrat Haqparast here with his decent striking output that sure can give Jamie Mullarkey pressure Jamie Mullarkey has the best kicks in this fight and Nasrat Haqparast has an issue with how he will defend it, so for sure  Nasrat will also have a hard time against Mullarkey but for me my pick for this fight is still Nasrat Haqparast,
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December 09, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
Yup, as pitting Tsarukyan vs Makhachev next would be anti climactic imho.  We already know Makhachev is gonna win it.  As for going against somebody like Gaethje, it's going to be another old guard vs the prospect scenario.  Kinda like when Fiziev was pitted vs Gaethje.  Lots of guys like me thought Fiziev was going to win.  Lol.  But no...  Gaethje still has more in the tank.

Anyway, live weigh ins are gonna be in around 3.5 hours. 

UFC Fight Night:  Live Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhB789q8cM


Yup! We don't like to see Arman Tsarukyan's hype train get derailed quickly and the actuality that I don't like seeing him get bullied by Islam Makhachev that early I want to see him fight a lower guy for Arman Tsarukyan's career just to increase his popularity, so the Islam Makhachev VS Arman Tsarukyan fight will gain more earnings and PPV, and if it is Justin Gaethje then that will be a great increase in his rankings and popularity for sure, if he beat Gaethje that is,

Imho Poirier gonna be an easy target for Tsarukyan. For me Poirier looks like he is about to retire. Fights against Conor made him earn enough to lose motivation to win. KO by Gaethji only increased that wish to retire Cheesy Sub from Oliveira showed that his bjj black belt is from toys store. Arman gonna eat him.

P.S. You guys gonna laugh or smile now - I've got stuck in the elevator and I am waiting for tech guy for 20min already. In a complete dark. It is so boring here. What makes it worse, my mobile data is not 4g anymore, not even 3g, its E - Edge... Because I am basically in the basement...

Yup! For me, Dustin Poirier is not that great anymore actually any fighter now in the top rank can read his technique like a book for sure Arman Tsarukyan will pulverize him easily, And I believe that Dustin Poirier might be nearing his retirement for sure after that Charles Oliveira and Justin Gaethje fight I think he is really thinking about it and if an Arman Tsarukyan defeats him then I think that will trigger him to get that choice as for sure his confidence is near its limits,

I really don't want to laugh as for me getting stuck in an elevator is not a laughing matter, actually, I am more curious and worried about what happened to you and if are you now OK.



Now my bets and predictions going to the event UFC Fight Night 233

Yadong Song VS Chris Gutierrez

The stake odds for this fight are 1.29 for Song Yadong and 3.90 for Chris Gutierrez, For this fight I think that Song Yadong is well-rounded he can get a decent strike against Chris Gutierrez and if that striking is not effective against him he can surely go with the takedowns and for sure his wrestling technique is great against a striker that is Chris Gutierrez the real threat was Gutierrez takedown defense which will give Yadong a hard time penetrating, but if he is confident and not back down in making takedowns I think that Song Yadong can eventually get this so my pick is Song Yadong,

Anthony Smith VS Khalil Rountree Jr.

The stake odds for this fight are 2.70 for Anthony Smith and 1.52 for Khalil Rountree Jr, For this fight I think that Khalil Rountree has a massive physique even though Anthony Smith is taller than him I think he has the power to knock out Anthony Smith for sure and because of his physique for me Anthony Smith will have a difficult time taking him on the ground well I might be wrong about this as Anthony Smith is pure wrestling and grappler, but for me, if Khalil Rountree Jr. takedown defense is great then in just a couple of strikes for sure Rountree can knock Anthony Smith so my pick is Khalil Rountree Jr.

Tatsuro Taira VS Carlos Hernandez

The stake odds for this fight are 1.19 for Tatsuro Taira and 5.20 for Carlos Hernandez, For this fight I think that the undefeated kid Tatsuro Taira will still continue to be undefeated, for me Tatsuro Taira doesn't have good striking but it is improving and so I really don't know if how much improvement he has, while Carlos Hernandez has a good pace and really has good striking but when it comes to wrestling he often gives his back so if Tatsuro Taira can see an opportunity in getting those I think that he can eventually land that so, in my opinion, Tatusri Taira can surely get that and could win by a submission,


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December 09, 2023, 04:36:40 PM
Yup, as pitting Tsarukyan vs Makhachev next would be anti climactic imho.  We already know Makhachev is gonna win it.

There's no way that fight will be happening until Arman gets more recognition by defeating another top opponent. Letting him fight for the title now would be a massive wasting of earning potential.
But if they were to fight, I don't think Tsarukyan would be without chance. He gave Islam a bit of a hard time in their first fight and he definitely improved since then and is now more experienced.
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December 09, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
Dustin will have the fighting will if it's a rematch with Gaethje. Gotta relight that fire within him.

Conor is not into MMA anymore. I think he shifted his focus on politics already, rumor was that he is running for President in Ireland. Who would have thought?
Well, the guy can fight physically and verbally, which seems a perfect combination for a politician. Chandler is going to wait forever.


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December 09, 2023, 11:02:24 AM
@Welsh. However, after fighting Conor 2 times and earning his highest purses from those fights, he might not have the determination to challenge himself anymore. If uncle Dana announces that Arman and Dustin will fight, I will be wishing that the underdog will be Arman hehehee. Similar to Dustin Poirier's fight against Justin Gaethje, Poirier's own mind will tell his body to stop. I reckon this is because his will power is not anymore there.

Dustin is one of the best Lightweights out there. But I think I agree with what you said. Dustin has really been through a very difficult time in his UFC career. Losing to Khabib when fighting for the belt, then preferring the match against Conor to the title fight, losing to Oliveira when trying to fight for the next belt, and then losing by Knouckout against Gaetjhe who he had already beaten before. LW is very competitive.

The new fighter is also a Monster in the ranks of elite fighters in the UFC. I think Dustin doesn't have the fighting will he used to have. After all, he already earned a lot of money from his match against Conor.
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December 09, 2023, 07:57:13 AM
^  It's hard to disagree, there were a couple more guys saying that about McGregor too itt.  :/  Too much money just fcks you up as a fighter.  But then again, that's the goal.  So it's all good.

Anyway here are the weigh in results...  Just one fighter missed weight.

Song Yadong (136) vs Chris Gutierrez (136)
Anthony Smith (205.5) vs Khalil Rountree (204)
Nasrat Haqparast (156) vs Jamie Mullarkey (156)
Tim Elliott (136) vs Su Mudaerji (136)
Andre Muniz (186) vs Junyong Park (185.5)
Kevin Jousset (170.5) vs Song Kenan (170.5)
Sung Hyun Park (126) vs Shannon Ross (126)
Melquizael Costa (155.5) vs Steve Garcia (155)
Stephanie Egger (135) vs Luana Santos (139)*
Carlos Hernandez (125) vs Tatsuro Taira (125.5)
Talita Alencar (116) vs Rayanne Amanda (115)

*Missed weight

And here are the weigh in vids and face off.  I think Song Yadong is gonna fck Gutierrez up.  And he's been training in Team Alpha Male which surely makes have some wrestling skills in his back pocket.

UFC Fight Night:  Song vs Gutierrez Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzZaFAdPI_8

UFC Fight Night:  Song vs Gutierrez Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiBJFZO_Tjo

Last call for jeremypwr's Multi Master.

UFC Fight Night 233:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-233-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5476543
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December 08, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
@Welsh. However, after fighting Conor 2 times and earning his highest purses from those fights, he might not have the determination to challenge himself anymore. If uncle Dana announces that Arman and Dustin will fight, I will be wishing that the underdog will be Arman hehehee. Similar to Dustin Poirier's fight against Justin Gaethje, Poirier's own mind will tell his body to stop. I reckon this is because his will power is not anymore there.
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December 08, 2023, 08:46:58 PM
Imho Poirier gonna be an easy target for Tsarukyan. For me Poirier looks like he is about to retire. Fights against Conor made him earn enough to lose motivation to win. KO by Gaethji only increased that wish to retire Cheesy Sub from Oliveira showed that his bjj black belt is from toys store. Arman gonna eat him.
I don't think Poirier is a easy target for anyone. He's still a top, top fighter. Although, you might be right that he's a little less motivated these days, but I can't say that for sure. He definitely showed up to the Conor fights that's for sure. He was definitely competitive with Justin before getting knocked out, definitely wasn't outclassed up until that moment.
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December 08, 2023, 11:08:05 AM
Judging from optics alone, it looks like Rountree is hard to take down...  The guy is kinda short but he is think and those legs are like tree trunks.  Lolol.  But according to UFC Stats he has 56% TD defense and if you remove strikers from the list, that's prolly lower.

But Smith has low TD accuracy.  Just around 28%.

You can check out the stats here.

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/91093a019d32af2e

I think I agree with you about Khalil Rountree Jr. and how he can have a chance against Anthony Smith and I surely have a feeling that Khalil Rountree Jr. will win this fight, sure Anthony Smith has great experience in the MMA but his recent record was 3 consecutive losses and a win for a Ryan Spann which is not a great success in my opinion, while Khalil Rountree Jr. has 4 consecutive wins his last fight was against Chris Daukaus with a round 1 straight punch win for sure 1 punch on smith and it is a win for Khalil Rountree Jr.


Actually, I am more interested in the Co-Main Event than in the Main Event Khalil Rountree Jr. is a solid fighter even though he is just 6'1" (185cm) and smaller than Anthony Smith his build is massive and I think his shorter physique is an advantage for wrestlers and because of that he is not easy to be taken down, for sure his takedown defense is decent in my opinion, and for sure Anthony Smith has decent wrestling but does his wrestling attack is enough for Khalil Rountree,


I also like the Yadong Song VS Chris Gutierrez fight this is an interesting fight as both fighters have interesting records both fighters have something that makes me interested in watching, a great mixed fighter Song Yadong is well-rounded but even though his striking is decent his wrestling game is on another level while Chris Gutierrez is more well-versed when it comes to striking for sure this is interesting as I really don't know if Chris Gutierrez has a decent takedown defense,

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December 08, 2023, 08:10:50 AM






I wouldn't mind seeing that happen too.  But dunno, I kinda feel like we need to see the old guard fight against the new top guys and make a name for themselves...  And winning against either Gaethje or Poirier would def do it for Tsarukyan.  He's relatively unknown at this point.  

Anyway, one of the guys that I'm more confident with withdrew from the event, Allan Nascimiento.  No reason given in Tapology.  Tim Elliott is the replacement fighter.  Hmmm...  If Elliott has 15 minutes of cardio, he'll win.  If not, it could happen like how he lost vs Royval.

For sure I want to see Arman Tsarukyan fight those top opponents Justin Gaethje, Dustin Poirier, and even Charles Oliveira 1st because getting his fangs against Islam Makhachev could be a long road for him getting into the title fight but will solidify his percentage in winning and getting the belt for sure, actually, I like Arman Tsarukyan and if Islam Makhachev fights Arman Tsarukyan early I really don't know who am I going to pick between the two, while for sure I might go with the champion for sure,

While the replacement for Allan Nascimiento is Tim Elliott which I really don't like aswell it was depressing to see that he withdrew in this fight which the odds were for him, and withdrawing without any reason, was pretty much what I expected, but let's just wait,





Yup, as pitting Tsarukyan vs Makhachev next would be anti climactic imho.  We already know Makhachev is gonna win it.  As for going against somebody like Gaethje, it's going to be another old guard vs the prospect scenario.  Kinda like when Fiziev was pitted vs Gaethje.  Lots of guys like me thought Fiziev was going to win.  Lol.  But no...  Gaethje still has more in the tank.

Anyway, live weigh ins are gonna be in around 3.5 hours. 

UFC Fight Night:  Live Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhB789q8cM

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December 08, 2023, 04:50:13 AM
We have plenty of time to predict and discuss Tsarukyan fight, half a year as minimum I guess. So lets switch to current events better Cheesy As I understand, we are skipping Song vs Gutierrez, as it general vision here of this event is boring Cheesy Then we have Edwards vs Covington. High chance that fight gonna go full distance. And if this goes like this, then Colby is going to win. If during first 3 rounds Edwards did not manage to knock him out, then Colby, as usually, gonna increase fight tempo and win thanks to endless tank.

And against Dustin Poirier even though he got boxing those kicks of Arman Tsarukyan was really solid and hearing those kicks for sure it would surely hurt Poirier for sure,

Imho Poirier gonna be an easy target for Tsarukyan. For me Poirier looks like he is about to retire. Fights against Conor made him earn enough to lose motivation to win. KO by Gaethji only increased that wish to retire Cheesy Sub from Oliveira showed that his bjj black belt is from toys store. Arman gonna eat him.

P.S. You guys gonna laugh or smile now - I've got stuck in the elevator and I am waiting for tech guy for 20min already. In a complete dark. It is so boring here. What makes it worse, my mobile data is not 4g anymore, not even 3g, its E - Edge... Because I am basically in the basement...
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