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I would say that Jones is a rare natural talent in the UFC. Has good striking, great wrestling, agile footwork and the most highlight is an extraordinary fighting IQ. It was too crazy a talent. Like a cheat. I think God gave Jones the lack of discipline and willpower to balance out such talent. Sorry if I'm offended but just imagine, if a monster with that kind of talent had all the qualities of a fighter like Khabib, then I think LHW should be changed to Jon Jones Division Weight LOL.

Oh! sorry, I thought that the Dan Hooker vs. Bobby Green fight was canceled but Jalin Turner accepts the challenge against Bobby Green which was still the Co-Main Event, I have looked at the Topology, and Rob Font and Deiveson Figueiredo was on the 2nd line for this event, but yeah Bobby Green still wants to fight for sure and I never realized that the UFC will just change Dan Hooker with Jalin Turner but I think that was good enough,

I really don't know why Jalin Turner that has lost to Dan Hooker but for sure Turner wants to prove himself for sure and he is the one who accepted this fight for sure Bobby Green can be dominant in this fight in my opinion,


For sure this is bookies underestimating the older dude, as Jalin Turner is just 28 and Bobby Green is now at his 37 of age, but let's just say on paper Bobby Green is so much more amazing than Turner but for some reason, there are people that will go and see the age gap of the two fighters, for sure this is what I think and the known reason why the odds was in favor with Jalin Turner,

OK, I just checked the odds for Turner Vs Green and Green is a big underdog for some reason, with x2.88 (on Unibet) payout rate. What am I missing here? I'd expect bookies to be favouring Green.
Is it just age and reach advantage? Other than that, Turner is stepping in on a VERY short notice, he lost his 2 latest fights, while Green won his last two in a compelling fashion.

I double checked and nope...  Co main event is Jalin Turner vs Bobby Green.  It really looks like the UFC is trying to give Turner another decent match up to move up the ranks.  They gave him Dan Hooker in his last fight and he looked good at the first round but then dunno...  It was like a switch flipped him off and it suddenly became all Hooker at the second half of R2 and all Hooker at R3.  Did Turner gas out, I have no idea.  But something looked wrong with him after R1...  I guess we'll find out during media day.  Let's see what he has to say about that loss if it comes up.

Anyway I think it's massive disprespect for Fig that he's bumped a notch down the roster.

This accident reminds me Aljamain Sterling and Merab Dvalishvili. They say they are friends and he is from Caucasus and he can't punch to his friend and other Bla Bla Bla nonsense. But recently he got scared of Dana White and in one of his last interview he said that he has never said they wouldn't fight in UFC, they'll fight in UFC if they get a big money. It was clear for me that it was done for money and it had nothing to do with the mentality of Caucasians, etc. Seems, money outweighs friendship.

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Dan Hooker looks like Till Linderman in that hairstyle.


Jon Jones is the beast. He is as talented in MMA and fighting as Messi is in Football.

There is nothing to expect from the Jones vs Miocic fight. It would just be another win for Jones. Jones says it's GOAT vs GOAT but the problem is the miocic era is over. I see it more like Jones is trying to complete his great record in the UFC by defeating a legendary heavyweight fighter but the problem is that the fighter is far past his prime. This is like you saying a welterweight fighter asks for a GOAT vs GOAT match but against GSP who is retired and hasn't trained in a long time.

To be honest, I'm also really looking forward to that fight. But it seems impossible. And I'm not sure that Jones will be able to beat Ngannou. Gane is considered one of the best natural talents in the heavyweight division because he is blessed with a strong physique and abnormal speed. But that's not enough if you have to fight a fighter who has experience in ground fighting. Gane started his MMA career with Muay Thai and wrestling is still his biggest weakness. This could be seen from how Jon Jones took the fight to the ground and there was nothing Gane could do. But the case would be different if Jones fought Ngannou. A fighter who has extraordinary power and excellent wrestling abilities. This was seen during his fight with Gane. So the most interesting fight for the heavyweight class at the moment is of course Aspinall vs Jones, or Gane vs Pavlovich.

You can look at the paper and you can clearly see the difference between the two, Jon Jones has a lot of advantages over Stipe Miocic and Jon Jones's age, Stipe Miocic is 41, and Jon Jones is 36 which is a clear deficit Reach advantage Miocic got Reach: 80.0" (203cm) while Jones has Reach: 84.5" (215cm), fighting record Stipe Miocic got 20-4-0 (Win-Loss-Draw) 14 KO, 1 Submission, and 5 Decision while Jon Jones has 27-1-0, 1 NC (Win-Loss-Draw) with 10 KO, 7 Submission, and 10 Decision, for sure in this kind of stats in paper Jon Jones would likely win and got the edge on the odds,


The UFC has already established the Jon Jones VS Stipe Miocic fight, for it can also generate a potential PPV, but what if the UFC is also establishing the Tom Aspinall for the winner of the Sergei Pavlovich VS Tom Aspinall fight will likely fight Whoever wins the someone who can Jon Jones VS Stipe Miocic

For sure many want to see a fight between Tom Aspinall and Jon Jones but what if the UFC is ahead of us and wants the fight at a later date and the UFC is still establishing a better PPV for the two to fight in a given time for sure,


I never expected his win over Cyril Gane, but he managed to win that in a fast surprising manner, and for sure Jon Jones has the fight IQ to win in a tight spot, but his game will suddenly get over as his age progresses, and now that he is injured I might say that he is likely prone to being injured at his age, and after the Tom Aspinall VS Jon Jones fight for sure it is a hard to see a Francis Ngannou for sure but if Jones gets into PFL maybe we can likely see it,

Can't believe ffor 15 years he managed to be undefeated. I actually thought he'd lose against Gane for the first time I think his fellow MMA star Bisping said it as well and I believe it too. Maybe because I wanted to win the odds.

We could be disappointed once again to bank on Aspinall. Jones still has the reach advantage and he could also do what he did to Gane. Big guy taking down the other aka Khaabib style.

Jon Jones always find a way to win and no one managed to prove that wrong for 15 years and for someone to be on the top of the game for this long is a testimony for his greatness. Even i had my doubts against Gane as he was moving up in weight division and Gane was really fast for a Heavyweight but he just shut everything down but a fight against Aspinall would be a big challenge considering he is really fast for his size. Sadly we wont be seeing the Ngannou fight and even if he fights him, there is no way Ngannou is going to beat Jones.

From what I have seen because of Tom Aspinall's speed he likely getting his opponent a faster finish so he is that good of a fighter, and what I want to see is a Tom Aspinall VS Cyril Gane fight I am curious to see this fight but for sure because of Tom Aspinall's wrestling which is still the weakness of Cyril Gane then for me Tom Aspinall will likely win that fight, he might be even great than Jon Jones, there will be a lot of people that might disagree with me that Tom Aspinall could be great than Jon Jones, he could likely finish Jones for sure Aspinall has an unusual speed even with that kind of injury from his fight against Curtis Blaydes he still has that unusual speed that is not normal with the Heavyweight division, but for sure Ciryl Gane and Jon Jones can match that speed of his,


This means the heavyweight is not that exciting, unlike with the lower division most fighters are well-rounded mostly pure wrestling will beat pure striker, but a well-rounded can be very exciting to watch, In most divisions we will witness fights that go the distance while in the heavyweight 1 punch is what a fighter needs to knockout or defeat his opponent, but for sure the UFC will be giving us a fight that will surely excites us to watch the heavyweight division again I think they have put Jon Jones in this division for the Division to be more exciting, and now that Aspinall is here I think that fight will be an awesome one,


Whoa! I thought that they changed the Co-Main Event with Rob Font vs Deiveson Figueiredo but Bobby Green is just eager to fight as now he will have Jalin Turner as his opponent, for sure if Bobby Green lost to this one that will be a big upset for sure Jalin Turner will only have 1 week to prepare against Bobby Green that will be a hard fight as Green is a very unpredictable fighter,

Bro I think it should be Dan Hooker vs Bobby Green. Or is there a notification about a fighter change? Sorry if I'm wrong bro.  

Note: I got the news late. It turns out the fight had indeed been changed and Jalin Turner only had one week to prepare. Sorry

I am quite interested and excited about the main event and co-main event at Fight Night this time. Dariush is a great wrestler at Lightweight. And Tsarukyan is an interesting fighter because he has fought Makhacev and can handle Makhachev's level of wrestling. But Tsarukyan once lost against Gamrot and Dariush once beat Gamrot. Isn't this very interesting?

As for the Hooker vs Green match, I see this as a fight between a fighter who once shone at Lightweight against a fighter who just has a good record in the UFC (Green). Honestly I didn't follow some of Green's previous fights so CMIIW.

^  Yup!  I've been looking into that a fews hours ago too.  Pantoja is in the co main event to defend his 125 belt vs Royval.  I like both these guys so it should be a fun one.  Luque vs Ian Garry will def be a banger.  I think it's gonna be one of those matches that will throw Garry off of his game because Luque could make it dirty.  Josh Emmet vs Chikadze could be a good one.  Menefield vs Jacoby is decent.  Ulanbekov vs Durden is low level but could be entertaining.  Randy Brown vs Salikhov is the first match of the prelims?  Massive disrespect imho, it should be way higher in the roster.  

Date:  Saturday, December 2
Main Card (PPV):  6:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  4:00pm EST
Venue:  Moody Center, Austin, Texas



Main Card (PPV)
Beneil Dariush vs Arman Tsarukyan
Jalin Turner vs Bobby Green
Rob Font vs Deiveson Figueiredo
Sean Brady vs Kelvin Gastelum
Punahele Soriano vs Dustin Stoltzfus
Khalil Rountree Jr. vs Azamat Murzakanov

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Clay Guida vs Joaquim Silva
Miesha Tate vs Julia Avila
Zach Reese vs Cody Brundage
Drakkar Klose vs Joe Solecki
Steve Garcia vs Melquizael Costa
Rodolfo Bellato vs Ihor Potieria
Wellington Turman vs Jared Gooden
Veronica Hardy vs Jamey-Lyn Horth

^  Damn...  Dan Hooker pulled out.  Jalin Turner is replacing him.  ;/

While waiting for next UFC event, I was scrolling calendar of next events and found out that during UFC 296 Edwards vs Covington, there are really cool fights are scheduled. Despite Ferguson vs Pimblett fight (the fight I both wait and dont want to watch), Shavkat Rakhomonov and Wonder boy are fighting. Welterweight rank5 vs rank6. If Thomson fought last time last year, then I happen to catch myself thinking that I havent seen Rakhmonov for a very long time. Even though he fought in march. I am starting to miss that Kazakh

I will be your google search for today. Just hit "I'm Feeling lucky".



The answer is simple and trivial - $money$. https://www.tiktok.com/@diversemma/video/7213504929783221509. Here is a bit more if you are kind 4-eyed guy. Dont know if this is true, because the reason hate is so far-fetched. I would not sucker punch guy on a street and be endangered to get into jail if that guys owes to my friend money. Its their business after all. I would go find a lawyer and try to get money with his help (or fail like Lobov-McGegor-Proper 12 case lol )

^  He's already in physical therapy rn.  So it would take prolly 6 months for him to be fully ok and then finding a spot for him in the roster of events will prolly take a couple of months, fight camp would be around three months...  So I think around 1.5 years.  Lolol.  At the earliest maybe he'll be back by December next year?  And that's a maybe...

Anyway, here's a good one.  Lol.  These guys used to be best friends.  Not sure why Masvidal hates Covington now.

UFC Free Fight:  Covington vs Masvidal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkIDNdmWFHc

Early lines for Edwards vs Covington are 1.79 and 2.04 respectively.  :/  What do you guys think?

That can be like 1 fight only Imho it would take a year for him to recover from injury and prepare for the fight. In a year, there would no Stipe in UFC. The whole ranking position would change twice till he get ready for a fight. And I am sure that he wont agree to fight someone low ranked. Stipe needs to have a fight as quick as possible. That 2.5 year pause is a terrible hit on his career and skill. And I feel like Stipe would lose to anyone from top5 right now. By the time Jones would be ready, Stipe might be on the bottom of ranking table if not retired.

Yes, I also understand that the purpose of having an interim title is as replacement for the main belt held by the champion and currently the owner of the belt is Jones who is injured, but before fighting Aspinall he has a schedule against Stipe Miocic so Aspinall has to wait or do some future fight.
Wouldn't having more fights be better because Aspinall can actually train and prepare himself when he has to fight Jones in the future?
Jones vs Stipe would be much more interesting than Jones vs Aspinall and this is why the UFC is really putting their fight first rather than having to put him up against the interim title holder, isn't it about the money? and Jones vs Stipe could make more money.

There will not be two parallel belt titles in one weight class and they will just have to wait for the UFC decision to schedule the fight.
As I said before, Jones vs Stipe will be prioritized before the actual title holder meets the interim title holder.
But this is quite interesting because there will be two heavyweight title fights in the near future.

Agree. I wouldn't say Jones is in his prime, but he's still the most dangerous guy in the UFC and, with the right mind set and motivation, he can still compete for at least 2-3 more years at the highest level. Moving up to heavyweight was a smart move.
A fight with Aspinall is a must and I still hope it will happen instead of Jones/Miocic. And if he defeats Aspinall, return of Francis would be the absolute best scenario, but I have my doubts whether we'll ever see him in the UFC again. I don't think UFC would sign him up for a one fight only, and I don't think Francis would be interested in any long term contract with all the usual restrictions attached.

I think Jones still has 'it' as a fighter.  I kinda had my doubts before Gane, but after Gane he showed that he's still at the top of his game.  And Gane is one of the best MMA heavy weights in the world.  Nobody expected Jones to finish him that fast.

And we've already seen Jones at his worst and still managed to win.  If he wins vs Aspinall then there's only one fight to make for Jones...  A match up vs Ngannou.