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The heavyweight belt belongs to Jones and he got it by winning the fight but now he is injured so he is still waiting for the right time until the injury he experienced is completely healed to be able to fight again, after all Jones can't fight not because of a mistake that violates the rules but because of injury so that he is not stripped of possession of the championship belt.

Actually he has a healing time of around 8 months and this has been estimated by the doctor who treated him, but to really be able to fight we don't know whether after 8 months he can fight straight away or not.
If you equate it with McGregor, it is not the same because the injury suffered by Jones was not as serious as that experienced by McGregor.
I sure Jones will be able to fight as predicted.

Some decent match ups in this event imho...  Vitor Petrino vs Modestas Bukauskas, Elves Brener vs Esteban Ribovics, Caio Borralho vs Abus Magomedov and both Bonfim brothers' match ups.

Date:  Saturday, November 4
Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  8:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  6:00pm EST
Venue:  Ginasio do Ibirapuera, Sao Paulo, Brazil
Live Streams:  



Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Jailton Almeida vs Derrick Lewis            
Gabriel Bonfim vs Nicolas Dalby            
Rodrigo Nascimento vs Don'Tale Mayes            
Caio Borralho vs Abus Magomedov            
Rodolfo Vieira vs Armen Petrosyan            
Ismael Bonfim vs Vinc Pichel

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Elves Brener vs Esteban Ribovics            
Victor Hugo vs Daniel Marcos            
Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos vs Rinat Fakhretdinov            
Vitor Petrino vs Modestas Bukauskas            
Angela Hill vs Denise Gomes            
Lucas Alexander vs David Onama            
Eduarda Moura vs Montserrat Ruiz            
Kaue Fernandes vs Marc Diakiese

Edit:  Rodolfo Vieira vs Armen Petrosyan could be good too.  This event is above average now that I'm looking at the match ups more closely.

I am interested in Jailton Almeida getting into a title shot, so this fight is for me Jailton Almeida will win this because we all know Derrick Lewis is a bummer that doesn't have any technical striking, so yeah this is a sure win for Jailton Almeida in my opinion,

Right now we don't have any event this week but next week will be the beginning of a new event for the UFC, and in that event, another fight that I want to see is Caio Borralho VS Abus Magomedov, this is an interesting card for this event for sure,


I agree this injury will take quite some time and this is because of his age Jon Jones is really prone to injuries right now so it is not really advisable for him for extensive activities, so I am pretty much sure that he will be having a hard time in recovering but let's all hope it will not and for him a fast recovery,


Stipe Miocic is a Legend but a fossil should stay hidden or maybe retired for good, he is currently number 3 in the ranking but his last fight was against Francis Ngannou back on March 27, 2021, on UFC 260 so it was a long fight he hasn't stepped inside the Octagon so why not retired then, actually Glover Texeira wants to be a replacement for Jon Jones to fight Stipe and I really don't know if that could be more worst for sure

Honestly still not that excited for Miocic.  Not sure why...  I mean he was a good heavyweight but never really considered him to be 'the best' even tho the record says he's the best.  Dunno...  I guess if we already had guys like Aspinall and Pav fighting back in the day, I think Miocic would just be a fringe top 5'er at best.

UFC Free Fight:  Lewis vs Blaydes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ2saxQH-so

UFC Free Fight:  Almeida vs Roz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJY0ORCAWHE

Almeida is lined at 1.19?  Lewis is def value here.

Edit:  Looking at the next event's match ups, there are some decent ones in there.

For sure it will not last long with those Skinny legs of his sure that injury is imminent if he's not going to be injured inside the cage then he is going to be injured in his training, but his injury was his shoulder, and not his legs, but for sure because he is on the age where he can surely are prone to injury then something like this can likely happen,

And then Jon Jones is out, Stipe Miocic is out as well and then enter Tom Aspinall, VS Sergei Pavlovich for me that is the greatest fight and I really don't like the Jon Jones VS Stepe Miocic fight at all, but if Jon Jones is fighting whoever between Aspinall or Pavlovich then that is one juicy fight for sure,


Actually, I like Jailton Almeida's wrestling here, more than an aggressive Derrick Lewis for this fight, for sure Jailton Almeida is also technical with this fight I really like to see that and for sure I will be betting for Jailton Almeida for this fight, well, for sure many are just curious in what have happened to Jon Jones and for sure the Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich is a juicy one to behold,

Jon Jones did not injure his knees but he tore his pectoral muscle while sparring. Jones is lifting heavy weights in the gym and his knees are fine, the injury was unfortunate and he was abusing his body for a longer period with drugs and alcohol and he is not young anymore and it will have an affect on the body.

I wont be surprise if Jon Jones announces his retirement after the fight against Stipe Miocic and looks like the UFC is willing to push this match up for next year.

Everything relating to the body is genetic to a large degree, but calves are actually quite easy to train (meaning to increase their strength), they might be harder to grow, but I don't think you'll find any pro-bodybuilder without properly sized calves.
For the most of amateur athletes, they'll be on the very bottom in terms of priorities. Personally, I haven't done any calves-isolated exercise in a very long while.


I have my doubts if Jones will be eager to fight either Pavlovich or Aspinall. He was going after Stipe only because Stipe was considered to be the best heavyweight in terms of the most wins in title bouts. In the past he also mentioned that he was only after big money fights, and I'm not sure if a fight against Pavlo/Aspinall would sell that great.
I wouldn't be very surprised if Jones announced his retirement anytime soon. I hope that won't happen though.

 

^  I kinda enjoyed watching Power Slap tbh.  I think I'll continue trying to get you guys into it. 


Yup and he's gonna face either of those guys at some point in the future anyway...  It's just when he's back he'll skip Stipe Miocic.  But the thing is at Jones' age, recovery and rehab after the surgery could take longer than anticipated.  And even if he does return at the anticipated time, his knee could continue to bother him.  He'll prolly have one or two more fights in him then call it quits.

LOL, Almeida vs. Lewis event, that is going to be in a week is so lame, that we discuss Bones legs, bare knuckle fights and slap contest It is actually funny how Bones chicken legs survive all those low kicks and weight Bones+opponent put on them. But in his calves defence I can say, that these muscles are extremely hard to train or make big. Simply take a look on top bodybuilders. Everyone have huge back, huge shoulders, arms, quadriceps, but not everyone have huge calves. So it is genetical.

I agree, the history of fighters in boxing some have a concussion and trauma in their brain, and likely some are now in a vegetative state, not all are lucky like Pacquiao who retired from boxing and became a figure of power in the government and a well-known person after his boxing career, for sure there are boxers that doesn't attain this kind of popularity

But for sure I also don't want to be a boxer or choose boxing if I would pick a sport for myself, or Bare Knuckle of Slapping Tournament as well, but Taekwondo, or even MMA I would love to try, well those rules in the MMA are keeping the fighters safe than with boxing that still needed for their opponent to be drop when the referee could count to 10 for the fight to finished for sure MMA also has lesser rounds just for fighters to be safer,


Actually, I would be watching MMA Sports other than the UFC, but the Slap Tournament would be brutal for me after seeing that Disfigured face, I can surely feel his pain, Dang I really don't know how he survived that Concussion and  trauma it could give in his head would definitely be severe,

But definitely be watching Sports rather than the Slap Tournament,


And for sure he is not training than Bone Legs because if he did that would not be an issue, for sure The abuse he gives on his body has taken a toll on him, and don't forget even abused his wife at the same time, but even though he would not fight for the 295 event it is still a juicy fight for sure,

@owengtam09. Agreed. Jon Jones did not easily injure his body during training when he was the light heavyweight champion. His cancelled fights before were only because of smorting cocaine, abuse of alcohol and the hit and run of a pregnant woman. I reckon that this injured knee might be caused by being overweight for these chicken legs!

I am quite certain these bones of Bones Jones cannot carry more than 150 kilograms without injury.

For sure he still has a ton of ways to go before getting into higher fights and as you have said, I rewatched his fight against Bruno Silva and was really shocked that he doesn't have much head movement sure that will cost him a lot and he is having a hard time against Bruno Silva, on this fight which you can say that Sharabutdin Magomedov still got ways to improve for sure and I think that he can manage this somehow, for sure with a great training camp,


It was sad news for Jon Jones but likely said he is really prone now to injuries it is not a great time to be injured, and that will surely take quite some time to restore, but seeing the changes for the UFC 295 I am excited on what Dana White is in store for us, for sure it will be a juicy fight card, and because of that Jiri Prochazka and Alex Pereira is one of an interesting fight and fr sure the badass fight on this event, while Pavlovich and Aspinall is an interesting match as well the power and intimidation on Pavlovich and the technical striking and wrestling for Aspinall who will prevail,

The whole idea of an interim belt is for situations like this one when the champion is unable to fight for a long period of time. Jones wasn't quite stripped off of his belt, it's more of putting his title on hold. When he is back, he'll have to face the interim champion for the undisputed title.


Jones's career is full of unfortunate events. He got to the very top effortlessly and (if I'm not mistaken) he was the youngest champion in the UFC's history. If everything went right, he would've had even more impressive record. But he still has the most title fights in the organisation.
Other than the recovery period issue, there's also a question if Jones will be willing to fight whoever holds the interim belt. He seemed quite picky in choosing his opponents recently.

Why is Pavlo vs Aspinall an interim fight?  Jones being stripped of his belt would appear Sergei Pavlovich vs Tom Aspinall fight for the vacant belt.

The news says it will take more than a year before Jones can recover, it's very uncertain whether he can still fight as long as USADA has yet not out of the picture he will not be able to. Its the same issue with Conor.

Well this is very surprising because the fight between two monsters from this heavyweight class is an event that is highly anticipated by UFC fans.
Jon Jones will undergo long period of treatment and recovery and it is even reported that after he recovers he will not be able to immediately return to the UFC to fight.
It looks like he will gain quite significant amount of weight because during the recovery period he will only sleep and eat.

Indeed there is replacement fight for Jones failed meeting with Stipe Miocic namely the interim heavyweight title fight between Sergei Pavlovich vs Tom Aspinall.
Unfortunately this fight isn't that interesting.

Meanwhile for Alex Pereira, I will have hopes for his victory against Jiri Prochazka.

Not a fan too but I like to watch non UFC events that's on from time to time and make small bets here and there just to make it more interesting to watch.  But tbh it was a good watch.  I mean I don't think it'll be as huge as the UFC but it could have its own spot among sporting events.  I wouldn't mind watching the next one.

And as a new sport, the lines could be soft for the next events until the books adjust.

Anyway here are the results for the event.  Lol.

Vern Cathey Defeats Bear Bennett By KO In Round 1
Wesley Drain Defeats Travis Aragon By KO In Round 1
Ryan Phillips Defeats Darius Mata-Varona Due To Disqualification
Sheena Bathory By Christine Wolmarans KO In Round 2
John Davis (49-46, 49-46, 48-46) Defeats Azael Rodriguez By Unanimous Decision
Wolverine (48-47, 48-47, 48-47) Defeats Austin Turpin By Unanimous Decision
Damien Dibbell Defeats Nate Burnard By KO In Round 1
Da Crazy Hawaiian Defeats Kalani Vakameilalo By Knockout In Round 2

Here's the post fight match conference.  Lol.  They're trying to emulate the UFC.  Hope it works out for them.

Power Slap 5:  Post Match Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-LCwemJpQc

I would choose Football, Basketball, Tennis and some other sports games absolutely every day if I had to make a career. Fighting is brutal, it affects your brain, your face and you get paid small, doesn't worth it.

To be honest, I like it when they slap each other and then there is a slow motion of how dust and particles leave the face surface and how skin then moves on face like waves in the ocean. Bare Knuckle is just brutal because lack of gloves increase cuts on face, I don't really enjoy it. I don't think anyone will ever make a career in it because injuries will be very frequent and very damaging, there is a very high risk of getting your wrist broken, which means, your career is gone.

Power Slap is more dangerous than bare knuckle fights. The argument "you arent allowed to defence" in power slap crosses every single brutality that BK has. Open first indeed may cause lots of visual damage, but the opponent always have a chance to dodge or block to minimize damage. With slaps, it is a little concussion and you arent allowed to defend from it. I think I would better watch kittens fight that watch two men slap each other

Well, Uncle Fester would surely be frustrated if they refused to fight but the amount of money is surely tantalizing for them to refuse basically they are just being practical even though Islam Makhachev is saying that Volk shows up because of the money I truly think it is only normal because he is feeding his family with his hard earned money and basically risking his life for that, while I will be a hypocrite if I would not tell that I will be fighting not because of money but for the glory of being champion for sure all just wants money at the end of the day,

Well, this is the UFC thread even though Francis Ngannou was once a UFC fighter they will be fighting in Boxing so I think it is proper to post it in this thread
 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-boxing-october-28-5459433
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63042251

And because of that, I think I will read my bet slip as well because I almost forgot to bet in that fight as well so thanks for bringing this up here,


  Yup! That one, his face or head was disfigured for sure he got a nerve or even damage internally but I really hope it is not that severe, actually just seeing his disfigured face brings me the chills, and thinking of watching the power slap would bring me the same sensation as having goosebumps,

Bare Knuckle fighting is still interesting because you will need to be very technical in this fight as well, but people think so much crazy stuff is just unimaginable like they are just crazy thinking something like this that they would likely want a riskier fighting sports than a non-risky ones,

Do you mean this accident - Drooping Face After Slap Fighting Victory?
Yeah, that's terrible, it was brutal. I wouldn't damage my face for thousands, doesn't worth for me to turn into ugly man or get my face nerve damaged. By the way, I have to admit that this sport is very entertaining for me, I have a rush of adrenaline when I watch Vasily Kamotsky.
It's curious but Bare Knuckle fighting is getting popular too. What's next? Fight without mouthguard? Without groin guard? People are getting crazy, dude.