Topic: The whales need no indicators! - page 3. (Read 960 times)
it is not entirely true they need to see market trend and read all the chart because you have to understand if some holder is whale in one coin it can't be whale in other coin,but as they have huge amount of crypto so they can manipulate easily but in order to show other trader that chart reading skill is working they have to follow the trend and pump and dump according to it.
The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins. This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis. The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
The market moves either bullishly or bearishly along the lines of supply and demand. Just let plants moving towards sunlight for survival, so does the market to the big money. The whales call the shots and so shouldn't care what indicators individual "ant" traders use. 
The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins. This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis. The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
The whales is for the group the of rich people's to afford buy huge of coins in cryptocurrency marketcap to manipulate the marketcap price small investors can't do that.
The only thing whales are waiting for is that they sell at least 80% of the bitcoin, there were many who bought bitcoin in 19k, and do not want to sell them in 3.5k, if that does not happen, the price will go down, it's simple, they are the strong hands they will never buy expensive.
The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
I don't know what they are waiting for? if they influence the market or can manipulate the market, why don't they do it now? is whales really rest right now ? so that makes marketcaps go down very deep?
yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
- I don't think so, I believe whales still need indicators, they need to know the trading volume and the number of coins the user is accumulating, and from there, they can build traps to push others into their nets. They can not rely solely on large amounts of money and change their prices according to their wishes because this market is so big, many whales, they always fight each other every day, just a little bit of mistakes, other whales can cause them to take a lot of damage, using and analyzing indicators is essential for all their plans to be perfect and achieve the highest profitEven myself would do the same thing even I'm a whale investor.You cant just rely with your financial capability because risk of losing big amounts would be still there.You cant act as you please on what would be the results and as you said that there is also other whales lurking which do only waits for the right opportunity to move.If you do made such reckless actions then there would always be a price.
yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
- I don't think so, I believe whales still need indicators, they need to know the trading volume and the number of coins the user is accumulating, and from there, they can build traps to push others into their nets. They can not rely solely on large amounts of money and change their prices according to their wishes because this market is so big, many whales, they always fight each other every day, just a little bit of mistakes, other whales can cause them to take a lot of damage, using and analyzing indicators is essential for all their plans to be perfect and achieve the highest profit 
The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
It cannot be said with full confirmation that whales are the reason for every pump and dump or any collusion. Several hedge funds are making the market move when there is a certain trend that is being followed. This trend is set by the news that goes into the social media and in case you follow then you will also become aware of them. In general do not buy a coin which you have never heard of and reached 500% gains in one day on coinmarketcap charts. Those are obvious pumps which will be dumped or already has been dumped by the time you login to your exchange.It is presumed that whales are behind these huge movements but to what extent is still a mystery and something these get revealed but with a lot of speculation.
The actions of the whales forms the market sentiments which drive the market to any direction which they desired. Trade aids (indicators) helps when there are no major actions from the market markers(whales) but the movement will then be ranging and not trending. This will result in a small profit for all your effort.
yes, I see whales do not have indicators or even don't use them, they only rely on the large funds they have to move prices in the direction they want.
The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it.
This is easier said than done, if we only know their action then we could easily follow. It's still a lot of guessing since whales are smart, and they don't want to get notice on what they are doing.
I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
Even if they do, we have no idea, but I think in order for you to become whales, you need to have the power to move the marketand they could also be in different direction sometimes, so we cannot expect it's easy to follow them as one may loss and the other may win.
The whales has been pump and dump the price of crypto so to make the same profit like them, we have to follow it. I think there are collusion between whales to pump and dump crypto. For now whales look like just taking rest and they will be back in next afew month, so bull market will be coming.
analysis is only a way to anticipate mistakes in the selection of decisions in trade, in fact no one can predict the fluctuations in the price of bitcoin in particular by continually deciding correctly.
because if anyone can do it, everyone who follows his analysis will be able to get rich very quickly, and if there are people who are lucky there must be someone who must feel a loss, that is one of the laws of trade in crypto currency that I have felt so far.
because if anyone can do it, everyone who follows his analysis will be able to get rich very quickly, and if there are people who are lucky there must be someone who must feel a loss, that is one of the laws of trade in crypto currency that I have felt so far.
the market knows no whale.
But whales know the market and they are partially responsible for the movements.Quote
it is likely to follow any direction it faces. surely it is all about demand and supply. and when the demand is high, the market moves in a positive direction with supply declining. when selloff is high and demand reduces, the market plummet. we all that ply this market need to be vigilant to avoid loosing our hard earn money.
I am not sure how long you have been in the market but its does not function just in a hard and fast manner. Yes it does follow the initial movement for sometime but in depends on how others are trading - if there are big sell or buy or orders when the market is moving up and down respectively there will be fluctuation in the prices. Not everyone is going to FOMO in when the price rises. the market knows no whale. it is likely to follow any direction it faces. surely it is all about demand and supply. and when the demand is high, the market moves in a positive direction with supply declining. when selloff is high and demand reduces, the market plummet. we all that ply this market need to be vigilant to avoid loosing our hard earn money.
The market is dictated by whales, sure it's based on demand and supply but because they have the power to manipulate the market, they can also create a fake demand to move the price based on what they like to see, and at the end of the day, they still make money.
Adoption is the real problem with crypto, we have a lot of people who are adopting but only few people who are holding the biggest share of the pie.
I disagree to the OP because first of all fundamental or technical analysis is the most important thing in trading next is the psychological aspect, emotions to properly execute their trades. The market is designed to take your money but if you don't ever wonder trading is about making money for others not only for whales by having a good time and strategy to make money with this whales.
the market knows no whale. it is likely to follow any direction it faces. surely it is all about demand and supply. and when the demand is high, the market moves in a positive direction with supply declining. when selloff is high and demand reduces, the market plummet. we all that ply this market need to be vigilant to avoid loosing our hard earn money.
You are completely wrong, the whales need to use indicators as well to tell them what to do, however more than anything they need to watch the volume of a coin and the volume of the exchanges in which they are trading because it is very easy for them to crash the price if they are not careful, if anything whales have even more limitations since everything they do affects the market.
Whales use their money to manipulate the markets that the basic idea. Now when they are going to do so and in what direction they are going to pull the market is still a mystery. We think that they watch the technical analysis but there may be other factors too. They may watch the movement of small fishes and decide to dump on them when price rises as well. Then watch the panic sell happen and buy back at low price. It is important to note that these movements actually make new people curious of the market. Without whales no big rise or crash would occur and the market would be stagnant like it is this week.
The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins. This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis. The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
You are completely wrong, the whales need to use indicators as well to tell them what to do, however more than anything they need to watch the volume of a coin and the volume of the exchanges in which they are trading because it is very easy for them to crash the price if they are not careful, if anything whales have even more limitations since everything they do affects the market.The only difference between the whales an a regular trader is that its purchasing and selling power, whales have a lot of power
and with that power, they can move the price in their favor. But we should be smart to spot that, if whales are doing that for something to come up,
then it's timely to be smart as well to prepare for that.
The whales and big investors did not need indicators both (technical and fundamentals indicators) before buying or selling Cryptocoins. This has just made me to believe that the indicators are just there for me and you to lose money and not to make money as the price will still go against you no matter how intelligent you are in technical analysis. The market seeing to make it own mind and that is to say the whales push it to any direction they decide at a particular time.
You are completely wrong, the whales need to use indicators as well to tell them what to do, however more than anything they need to watch the volume of a coin and the volume of the exchanges in which they are trading because it is very easy for them to crash the price if they are not careful, if anything whales have even more limitations since everything they do affects the market. Jump to: