Hi,
I want to hire some lawyers so I can get my miney back, me and maybe many other persons who made that preorder.
Should I get a lawyer in China or Hong Kong ?
Topic: The "What Black Arrow does not want you to know" thread (Read 18140 times)
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so asking someone to make some pretty renders of possible boxes tells me that you are focusing on the wrong stuff.
You make a good and interesting point, though it's not related to the original topic of this thread.Anyway, I agree, the amount of time/effort a company spends on marketing a pre-order product could potentially be used as an indicator of the company's technical capabilities. In this case, I would argue that blackarrow probably already had an established marketing team as part of their company prior to their ASIC announcement. Since they're on payroll, might as well use them.
For me personally, I find a company's history to be a better indicator of their merits than anything else. Like a person, you should always bet on a company not changing their habits. That isn't to say that they can't change, but more times than not they will repeat their mistakes. BFL is a prime example. It seems a lot of people forgot that they pulled their same shenanigans back with their original FPGA based product.
From what I know of Blackarrow, their customer service has been stellar, but I recall them tripping on a few early delivery schedules with their Icarus clones (IIRC their FPGA supplier fell through). Their habits likely won't change, which is to say that I believe they will deliver (as you seem to agree), but may still run into trouble during their early shipping (as do most companies, to be honest).
I'm guessing X-3s are on the same boat as AMT's miners from China.
I'm expecting a head-on collision with the BFL ghost ship on it's way to China.
I take it you've seen the compass both ships are using then?
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so asking someone to make some pretty renders of possible boxes tells me that you are focusing on the wrong stuff.
You make a good and interesting point, though it's not related to the original topic of this thread.Anyway, I agree, the amount of time/effort a company spends on marketing a pre-order product could potentially be used as an indicator of the company's technical capabilities. In this case, I would argue that blackarrow probably already had an established marketing team as part of their company prior to their ASIC announcement. Since they're on payroll, might as well use them.
For me personally, I find a company's history to be a better indicator of their merits than anything else. Like a person, you should always bet on a company not changing their habits. That isn't to say that they can't change, but more times than not they will repeat their mistakes. BFL is a prime example. It seems a lot of people forgot that they pulled their same shenanigans back with their original FPGA based product.
From what I know of Blackarrow, their customer service has been stellar, but I recall them tripping on a few early delivery schedules with their Icarus clones (IIRC their FPGA supplier fell through). Their habits likely won't change, which is to say that I believe they will deliver (as you seem to agree), but may still run into trouble during their early shipping (as do most companies, to be honest).
I'm guessing X-3s are on the same boat as AMT's miners from China.
I'm expecting a head-on collision with the BFL ghost ship on it's way to China.
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so asking someone to make some pretty renders of possible boxes tells me that you are focusing on the wrong stuff.
You make a good and interesting point, though it's not related to the original topic of this thread.Anyway, I agree, the amount of time/effort a company spends on marketing a pre-order product could potentially be used as an indicator of the company's technical capabilities. In this case, I would argue that blackarrow probably already had an established marketing team as part of their company prior to their ASIC announcement. Since they're on payroll, might as well use them.
For me personally, I find a company's history to be a better indicator of their merits than anything else. Like a person, you should always bet on a company not changing their habits. That isn't to say that they can't change, but more times than not they will repeat their mistakes. BFL is a prime example. It seems a lot of people forgot that they pulled their same shenanigans back with their original FPGA based product.
From what I know of Blackarrow, their customer service has been stellar, but I recall them tripping on a few early delivery schedules with their Icarus clones (IIRC their FPGA supplier fell through). Their habits likely won't change, which is to say that I believe they will deliver (as you seem to agree), but may still run into trouble during their early shipping (as do most companies, to be honest).
I'm guessing X-3s are on the same boat as AMT's miners from China.
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http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/about-us-en.html
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Infinity-Miner/249636931850802
Why are you quoting the Infinity, Inc. scam?https://www.facebook.com/pages/Infinity-Miner/249636931850802
For the same reason I'm offering up this other tidbit: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Card-Reader-Factory/internet/Card-Reader-Factory-cardreaderfactory-cardreaderfactorycom-crs-known-scam-and-snitch-I-1070440
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CardReaderFactory (cardreaderfactory.com) is run by Alexandru Ion Sovu a known SCAMMER from Romania.
His home was raided by police in 2003 and him, his brothers, and business associates were all arrested by the police.
He robbed people and businesses and with cardreaderfactory he's out to ROB and SCAM his old associates as well. There are already other reports on here and all over the internet that he works with police to help arrest people who purchase card readers from there. He's a SCAMMER and a SNITCH!
Their site:
http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/about-us.html
to find:
http://www.cdrex.com/alexandru-ion-sovu/786164.html
Linked to:
http://www.creditgate.com/company_information/cardreaderfactory+ltd.aspx
Alexandru Ion Sovu aka international scammer / credit card fraud from Romania. His home was raided in 2003 resulting in his brothers and associates being arrested. Alexandru Ion Sovu was not as he was out of the country at the time:
http://www.gov.ro/comunicat-de-presa__l1a15869.html
TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.ro%2Fcomunicat-de-presa__l1a15869.html
Card Reader Factory has decided to "expand their business" into Bitcoin mining rigs too. It's pretty obvious why, they weren't getting enough scams from selling card readers so they moved into the next big thing, Bitcoins. They sell low and want to you send them money before they even have the Bitcoin miners made.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2242650
This is where they also confirm cardreaderfactory.com is a SCAM!
BEWARE! If you want to be SCAMMED and LE to come to your door order from cardreaderfactory.com! OTHERWISE ORDER FROM ANYONE ELSE! STAY AWAY
MSRv007, MSRv008, MSRv009, MSRv010, CRFSuite, MSRvxxx, MSRv, cardreaderfactory, crf, cardreaderfactory.com
His home was raided by police in 2003 and him, his brothers, and business associates were all arrested by the police.
He robbed people and businesses and with cardreaderfactory he's out to ROB and SCAM his old associates as well. There are already other reports on here and all over the internet that he works with police to help arrest people who purchase card readers from there. He's a SCAMMER and a SNITCH!
Their site:
http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/about-us.html
to find:
http://www.cdrex.com/alexandru-ion-sovu/786164.html
Linked to:
http://www.creditgate.com/company_information/cardreaderfactory+ltd.aspx
Alexandru Ion Sovu aka international scammer / credit card fraud from Romania. His home was raided in 2003 resulting in his brothers and associates being arrested. Alexandru Ion Sovu was not as he was out of the country at the time:
http://www.gov.ro/comunicat-de-presa__l1a15869.html
TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.ro%2Fcomunicat-de-presa__l1a15869.html
Card Reader Factory has decided to "expand their business" into Bitcoin mining rigs too. It's pretty obvious why, they weren't getting enough scams from selling card readers so they moved into the next big thing, Bitcoins. They sell low and want to you send them money before they even have the Bitcoin miners made.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2242650
This is where they also confirm cardreaderfactory.com is a SCAM!
BEWARE! If you want to be SCAMMED and LE to come to your door order from cardreaderfactory.com! OTHERWISE ORDER FROM ANYONE ELSE! STAY AWAY
MSRv007, MSRv008, MSRv009, MSRv010, CRFSuite, MSRvxxx, MSRv, cardreaderfactory, crf, cardreaderfactory.com
Get out of jail free card? I guess this is why the fuzz isn't returning my calls.
How did I miss this thread OMGWTFBBQ.
http://gdb.voanews.com/7499EC39-D3C0-4FF6-81B4-9B0425998F44_w640_s.jpg
PG furiously stirring the pot. Shall I carve you a bigger paddle?
PG furiously stirring the pot. Shall I carve you a bigger paddle?
Says Darin, of whom I came to his rescue when he and Josh of BFL got into it over a very sensitive issue. BTW, he never thanked me, of which I could could care less in that regard, but now he somehow feels he needs to stick it up my ass over the Black Arrow issue, among others, notwithstanding a person I've personally donated money to support his noble cause, along with encouraging others to send him thousands of dollars because I vetted him.
It's a motherfuckin' shame that all I do to support the community, along with bringing further awareness to Bitcoin on my dime, the people I previously had no qualms with opt to stick it up my ass.
I truly am sad right. Very sad. But, I hate no one.
Thank you.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Don't be disheartened, as bobsag3 is associated with Bicknellski's Wasp Project, you probably ruffled a few feathers.
I am not seeing this render anywhere on their site...
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
It was there. Probably they've taken the image down for obvious reasons.http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
Reads to me like Matt Carson was in bed with Alex Sovu/Alex Berk from the get-go.
Matt, do you care to be the first one to tell fellow bitcoiners how you walked away from your lease in Rolla, MO, that was hosting bitcoin miners for others, or should I? Don't forget to include the part where you strung the poor sap (owner of the building) along after only paying the first month's lease payment.
While you're at it, state why you did the same thing to the poor sap who leased you 2057 Vienna Rd, Rolla, MO, after living there for only a couple months.
Matt, feel free to negate any of the above, but make sure you first move your datacenter again there in Denver, for I just about have that location nailed down, otherwise investomers will know of your location when they start demanding refunds in droves. Not that that's a bad thing, with the exception that their money is already up in smoke (PUN INTENDED!).
In case you missed it, Matt: Game On! And you're behind.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Interesting.
FYI .. bobsag3 is ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borito4-10897
Very interesting.
As the best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour, I think the bitcoin community is fortunate to have the likes of PG contributing to the public domain.
PG furiously stirring the pot. Shall I carve you a bigger paddle?
Says Darin, of whom I came to his rescue when he and Josh of BFL got into it over a very sensitive issue. BTW, he never thanked me, of which I could could care less in that regard, but now he somehow feels he needs to stick it up my ass over the Black Arrow issue, among others, notwithstanding a person I've personally donated money to support his noble cause, along with encouraging others to send him thousands of dollars because I vetted him.
It's a motherfuckin' shame that all I do to support the community, along with bringing further awareness to Bitcoin on my dime, the people I previously had no qualms with opt to stick it up my ass.
I truly am sad right. Very sad. But, I hate no one.
Thank you.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Keep up your chin Phinn,we need folks to be aware,you MAY just find that "needle" yet
BTW Phin,you want recognition
Find the 850,000 BTC MT Gox "lost" 
YOU will be a Super Hero baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
I'll buy a cape & suit made to fit ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that image has neither appeared on their website or facebook fan page
PG furiously stirring the pot. Shall I carve you a bigger paddle?
Says Darin, of whom I came to his rescue when he and Josh of BFL got into it over a very sensitive issue. BTW, he never thanked me, of which I could could care less in that regard, but now he somehow feels he needs to stick it up my ass over the Black Arrow issue, among others, notwithstanding a person I've personally donated money to support his noble cause, along with encouraging others to send him thousands of dollars because I vetted him.
It's a motherfuckin' shame that all I do to support the community, along with bringing further awareness to Bitcoin on my dime, the people I previously had no qualms with opt to stick it up my ass.
I truly am sad right. Very sad. But, I hate no one.
Thank you.
~Bruno Kucinskas
PG furiously stirring the pot. Shall I carve you a bigger paddle?
FYI .. bobsag3 is ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/borito4-10897
I wonder why PG is unwilling to talk with Matt on TeamSpeak or Gtalk to resolve the questions he has?
I suppose it is more fun to assassinate people's character without trying to give them a chance to resolve the issue in a peaceable manner. It is about ego more than anything at this point and little to do with being informative to the community, given that Matt has reached out to you PG. I find that telling. You were more than willing to give Inaba / Josh Zerlan time and traveled to KC and ate with the guy but Matt you rebuff? Wow. Sad. The IGNORE was the right move it is clear this isn't about edification.
I suppose it is more fun to assassinate people's character without trying to give them a chance to resolve the issue in a peaceable manner. It is about ego more than anything at this point and little to do with being informative to the community, given that Matt has reached out to you PG. I find that telling. You were more than willing to give Inaba / Josh Zerlan time and traveled to KC and ate with the guy but Matt you rebuff? Wow. Sad. The IGNORE was the right move it is clear this isn't about edification.
WOW! I'm seriously speechless after reading this from you, Darin.
I wonder why PG is unwilling to talk with Matt on TeamSpeak or Gtalk to resolve the questions he has?
I suppose it is more fun to assassinate people's character without trying to give them a chance to resolve the issue in a peaceable manner. It is about ego more than anything at this point and little to do with being informative to the community, given that Matt has reached out to you PG. I find that telling. You were more than willing to give Inaba / Josh Zerlan time and traveled to KC and ate with the guy but Matt you rebuff? Wow. Sad. The IGNORE was the right move it is clear this isn't about edification.
I suppose it is more fun to assassinate people's character without trying to give them a chance to resolve the issue in a peaceable manner. It is about ego more than anything at this point and little to do with being informative to the community, given that Matt has reached out to you PG. I find that telling. You were more than willing to give Inaba / Josh Zerlan time and traveled to KC and ate with the guy but Matt you rebuff? Wow. Sad. The IGNORE was the right move it is clear this isn't about edification.
I am not seeing this render anywhere on their site...
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
I suggest opening a window so that you'll be able to see better, Number One Fanboi.
I am not seeing this render anywhere on their site...
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
I suggest opening a window so that you'll be able to see better, Number One Fanboi.
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Seriously, are you not content in spamming your stuff in THREE threads that you now have to bump a 3 month old one? Dude, I'm not spamming. I'm spreading gospel. Big difference, aint' that right, Reverend Jim?
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Seriously, are you not content in spamming your stuff in THREE threads that you now have to bump a 3 month old one? I am not seeing this render anywhere on their site...
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
It was there. Probably they've taken the image down for obvious reasons.http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
Reads to me like Matt Carson was in bed with Alex Sovu/Alex Berk from the get-go.
Matt, do you care to be the first one to tell fellow bitcoiners how you walked away from your lease in Rolla, MO, that was hosting bitcoin miners for others, or should I? Don't forget to include the part where you strung the poor sap (owner of the building) along after only paying the first month's lease payment.
While you're at it, state why you did the same thing to the poor sap who leased you 2057 Vienna Rd, Rolla, MO, after living there for only a couple months.
Matt, feel free to negate any of the above, but make sure you first move your datacenter again there in Denver, for I just about have that location nailed down, otherwise investomers will know of your location when they start demanding refunds in droves. Not that that's a bad thing, with the exception that their money is already up in smoke (PUN INTENDED!).
In case you missed it, Matt: Game On! And you're behind.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Does Black Arrow offer escrow in BTC?
Nope, they already said they consider escrow a sale, not an investment.
They need to raise $millions probably to go into production, all payments are one way only.
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Any engineer worth their salt will be able to tell you if what they have designed is doable or where they might have huge issues.
No public tape-out so no engineer can tell you if it's a viable project.
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Again with any of this don't put in more than you are willing to lose.
Yep, newbies should not confuse what's offered as an item for sale, at this point it is purely a speculative investment.
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