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Quote from: _act_ on June 19, 2024, 04:19:03 PM

There was a topic that was posted on gambling discussion not quite long about British Prime Minister bodyguard arrested for election date bet. If I understood it, people are to bet on the day the election date would be.

People can bet on Miss World, Election, Sports and other events that it is not someone that fixed the result or set the date. I have not heard of this kind of bet before until today.

Some people posted that such people like the bodyguard should not be allowed to bet on the date of Election but what if he told someone to help him out and the money will be shared? Or is something like this can not be manipulated? If you know what would be the result of something, you can do one or two or more manipulation with that thing.

I think betting sites should not be allowed to include such bet. They should not just only be blaming the man. I see the betting site faults also. Why making people to bet on a result that someone set?

Like seriously having read that thread my response to it was they should temper justice with Mercy,tho the bodyguard shouldn't have placed such bets on that particular date and probably he thinks giving it out to someone else to do it and they share it won't be comfortable for him so he decided to take such risks.

But I think people can bet on any of this big event's it's not like the date was fixed, if one choose to bet or not to it's their choice and thinking betting sites care about what happens out there! I bet you they don't rather they are happier their making huge sum of money and what I usually observe during such events people tend to bets more, I wonder why it's so.

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Quote from: Makus on August 25, 2024, 02:47:42 PM

Quote from: Nwada001 on August 23, 2024, 05:47:37 PM

Some people are just too ashamed to take responsibility for their own actions, or will I say they are too afraid to take the blame for their own decisions, which is one of the reasons why they always look for ways to shift blame's

Either they blame the casino for their own misfortune or they blame someone close to them; there is always some body or something that they will always point fingers at as a reason why they lose in gambling. Such people are really not ready to gamble if the only thing they can agree upon as their own full action is when they are winning.

I consider persons with such mindset to be irresponsible. And if you watch closely at their personal life, you'll observe they are always like that, I.e trying to get someone to use as blame tool for their own actions. Irrespective of how someone compels you to make a gambling choice, provided that you're above the age of 18, you are responsible for your actions. Real men don't look for someone to put their blames on, but rather they work towards making corrections so that such mistakes won't happen again. I personally don't like keeping friends who always blames other for their own actions.

Actually, no one should be blamed because in any form of casino agreement there will definitely be risks that are not caused by the casino manager, so to blame the casino for losing in gambling or betting is a decision of both parties, so no matter how much you want to sue, you still can't blame the Casino because it is according to the agreement when someone gambles and the consequences are either winning or losing, so gamble maturely, it will affect someone's life in any way, I agree with what you mentioned earlier.

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People gamble on what they want to, if the parties involved in the bet are in consent. This makes the people who are organizing the event separate from the bettors outside the team. But the former group does not want to leave out on the fun and that makes the problem.

In think terms and conditions are there about being able to participate in something or the other, but how can casino websites even monitor the huge number of bets coming in on such sites.

In my opinion that guard was being foolish, why do such things that can harm their job and not maintain discipline?

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Quote from: alani123 on August 27, 2024, 06:32:53 PM

I think this is a common attitude against people who surround problem gamblers. Some chose to completely abandon their friends and family for such issues. It is a very serious problem and actually we should wish there was enough psychological support to help each and every one of these people, but they forget sometimes actually, that even of they get help they need to change on the personal level too. So if you end up taking the blame for someone else's habit, try and spare them the effort to explain. They need help and they need to understand it on their own to help themselves.

Yeah, how I wish there were a lot of people who can help with this kind of problem.

But I think there's really no one to blame but ourselves because we made the choice to gamble our money in the first place. We cannot point fingers at the gambling sites or providers because they just did their job to provide a service that would entertain us.
The real problem is when we start to abuse these games. We think we can be wiser than them but everything is already written that we will lose in the long run.
Knowing that we cannot blame anyone for our decision to gamble our money because there's really no one who forced us to do it in the first place.

I agree that people should take responsibility for what they choose to do
in the end of the day we are pressing the buttons, nobody is doing it for us
I guess the degree of how each person will do it varies on their maind responsibilities in life too, people with kids will end up needing more of it than single people, etc...

what else do you think will affect this kind of situation?

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Quote from: alani123 on August 27, 2024, 06:32:53 PM

I think this is a common attitude against people who surround problem gamblers. Some chose to completely abandon their friends and family for such issues. It is a very serious problem and actually we should wish there was enough psychological support to help each and every one of these people, but they forget sometimes actually, that even of they get help they need to change on the personal level too. So if you end up taking the blame for someone else's habit, try and spare them the effort to explain. They need help and they need to understand it on their own to help themselves.

Yeah, how I wish there were a lot of people who can help with this kind of problem.

But I think there's really no one to blame but ourselves because we made the choice to gamble our money in the first place. We cannot point fingers at the gambling sites or providers because they just did their job to provide a service that would entertain us.
The real problem is when we start to abuse these games. We think we can be wiser than them but everything is already written that we will lose in the long run.
Knowing that we cannot blame anyone for our decision to gamble our money because there's really no one who forced us to do it in the first place.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 02:30:58 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on August 25, 2024, 05:38:46 PM

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

Well, sometimes too, something might have actually lead to bad luck but I agree that the gambler just have to let go of it and have this kind of mindset that gambling is based on luck, which means that one must definitely encounter losses when they don't expect, it doesn't matter if the lose is caused by someone or something.

It's essential for us not to lose ourselves during our lows. Dire situations lead to dire results, but we should make it so that when we encounter such, we will come out of them unscratched, and in a better mood next time we try Grin

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I think this is a common attitude against people who surround problem gamblers. Some chose to completely abandon their friends and family for such issues. It is a very serious problem and actually we should wish there was enough psychological support to help each and every one of these people, but they forget sometimes actually, that even of they get help they need to change on the personal level too. So if you end up taking the blame for someone else's habit, try and spare them the effort to explain. They need help and they need to understand it on their own to help themselves.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 25, 2024, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: HelliumZ on August 23, 2024, 04:56:50 PM

It is an eternal truth that mistakes will be made in gambling and negative results will be taken if mistakes are made. However, if there is a mistake in gambling, it is not necessary to blame someone else for this mistake. Failure to take proper decisions will certainly result in loss of profit but if the blame for this loss is placed on someone else it will not be a good thing. Right team selection, election, event and even some important games people can bet due to wrong decision but if a gambler loses the bet due to all these wrong decision then it is only for his decision planning in this case of course he blames his wrong decision on someone. In no way can it be the work of the wise.

That's right, normally it's in the nature of humans to acortion blam to others or any slight thing that causes them to fail, but I think instead of putting blam on anyone or anything, it's better to just take note of that particular mistake that results to lose and fix it, so that next time such mistake will not happen.

They will not, but rather they will keep on shifting the blame; it makes them feel good rather than taking responsibility that they have made a mistake of their choice.

And when they don't take responsibility for their mistake, there can't be room for corrections because you never believe the fault is from your end. Rather, they will want the person they blame to be the one to adhere to and take correction.

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Quote from: hahay on August 27, 2024, 09:45:58 AM

Quote from: Odusko on August 25, 2024, 04:57:25 PM

I read somewhere that the case have been judged and the court grant the acclaimed body guard his winning and also made a declaration that, there is no such restriction on who can bet on such event like election and for sure it going to spike alot of controversial comment on the social media because such bet have been subject of controversy for long now and even if the court grant a judgement, the general public will still have alot of things to talk about, between even as a government officials, it shouldn't become a dead end for anyone because we are all citizens with equal right and it shouldn't be that because someone works with president or some other politicians to mean that he will be evicted from such an event that concerns him also since election is a general thing let all the citizens be allowed to participate in it bet

The people I may think should excluded are those in the election office who are the one responsible for setting the date of that election, those are the real insider's.

Even though their gambling is legal but still, I think people who are involved in the election event or candidates in the election and also insiders in the election are not allowed to bet. Because after all, if they are allowed to bet then of course they will be able to manipulate which will allow them to win the bet. Of course, something like this is something wrong if they are involved,so the accusation is also a proof of truth. But even so, people are still allowed to bet, because people do not have access to set the total votes, so it is natural that the organizers may be the ones blamed for being involved in gambling which will also raise suspicion of course.

I have said it before that the guard is very much innocent in my own observation, he got a tip and staked it and got profitable, this is much like the fixed odds most of us get from reliable sources and win.

Gambling is not with restrictions to anybody unless it's placed, I would've faulted the security guard seriously if there were more people that played the bet. Unfortunately, he played it for himself and didn't expose the secret, do he's still keeping his oath of office.

The bookmakers and country gambling board are to blame for allowing the bet to be available, the guard is only executing his social right as a citizen.

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Quote from: hahay on August 27, 2024, 09:45:58 AM

Even though their gambling is legal but still, I think people who are involved in the election event or candidates in the election and also insiders in the election are not allowed to bet. Because after all, if they are allowed to bet then of course they will be able to manipulate which will allow them to win the bet. Of course, something like this is something wrong if they are involved,so the accusation is also a proof of truth. But even so, people are still allowed to bet, because people do not have access to set the total votes, so it is natural that the organizers may be the ones blamed for being involved in gambling which will also raise suspicion of course.

People among the organisers of elections can not be allowed to bet on election outcomes because they can manipulate the results and this will ruin the democracy that we have. Having corruption in election is not good for any country because it will discredit the winners of the elections but we should not blame others for not doing our research before gambling on a candidate to win and when we lose, we should not blame others that had nothing to do with the outcome of the election. Anything gambling should be done with the mindset that you can lose and win because that is what will happen. When you gamble and lose, you can try again after bit do not do it instantly or you will lose your money because of revenge mindset. Finding someone to blame for our mistakes is not a good way of living.

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Quote from: hahay on August 27, 2024, 09:45:58 AM

Quote from: Odusko on August 25, 2024, 04:57:25 PM

I read somewhere that the case have been judged and the court grant the acclaimed body guard his winning and also made a declaration that, there is no such restriction on who can bet on such event like election and for sure it going to spike alot of controversial comment on the social media because such bet have been subject of controversy for long now and even if the court grant a judgement, the general public will still have alot of things to talk about, between even as a government officials, it shouldn't become a dead end for anyone because we are all citizens with equal right and it shouldn't be that because someone works with president or some other politicians to mean that he will be evicted from such an event that concerns him also since election is a general thing let all the citizens be allowed to participate in it bet

The people I may think should excluded are those in the election office who are the one responsible for setting the date of that election, those are the real insider's.

Even though their gambling is legal but still, I think people who are involved in the election event or candidates in the election and also insiders in the election are not allowed to bet. Because after all, if they are allowed to bet then of course they will be able to manipulate which will allow them to win the bet. Of course, something like this is something wrong if they are involved,so the accusation is also a proof of truth. But even so, people are still allowed to bet, because people do not have access to set the total votes, so it is natural that the organizers may be the ones blamed for being involved in gambling which will also raise suspicion of course.

But this is hard if it is an online bookie. How would they know if the person is directly involved in the said event? So for me, if the bookie learned that there are some wrongdoings or manipulations in the event, better cancel the betting line and return the money to the players. As proving would take time, better remove the betting line before it becomes a trouble for the site.

Most of the time, this kind of situation is being overlooked, so the bookie will just continue to offer such betting line. It can easily be taken advantage by the people who knows such event. And for me, this can easily be a loss to the site.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on August 26, 2024, 11:09:54 AM

Yes but I think it should be clear that a gambler should not assume that a mistake that results in defeat is bad luck, we must assume or admit that defeat is a part that can never be separated from the game and that is the fact.
We should have a neutral point of view on this activity where by acknowledging that defeat is part of the game and also by understanding that only luck will bring you victory.

It's not every gambler that can actually think this way, if all gambler thinks like that, we would not even have addicted gamblers or those who are gambling irresponsibly. What you said is actually correct because gambling doesn't give a guarantee resul, that's why a gambler is supposed to always be prepared for the outcome of their bet because it could be negative or positive.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 02:30:58 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on August 25, 2024, 05:38:46 PM

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

Well, sometimes too, something might have actually lead to bad luck but I agree that the gambler just have to let go of it and have this kind of mindset that gambling is based on luck, which means that one must definitely encounter losses when they don't expect, it doesn't matter if the lose is caused by someone or something.

Too much obsession and guilt is something that a person has, they like to transfer it to the person opposite or what is closest to them, although gambling is a game of luck and there are failures that are not planned, but the heart of a person who is tormented by fate does not accept that they are the cause, they need another sinner for this story. The responsibility here can only be attributed to a soul that has not experienced enough years of failure as well as too much fulfillment without accepting special circumstances, hence need a scarecrow to take the brunt of negative emotions and blame

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Quote from: Odusko on August 25, 2024, 04:57:25 PM

I read somewhere that the case have been judged and the court grant the acclaimed body guard his winning and also made a declaration that, there is no such restriction on who can bet on such event like election and for sure it going to spike alot of controversial comment on the social media because such bet have been subject of controversy for long now and even if the court grant a judgement, the general public will still have alot of things to talk about, between even as a government officials, it shouldn't become a dead end for anyone because we are all citizens with equal right and it shouldn't be that because someone works with president or some other politicians to mean that he will be evicted from such an event that concerns him also since election is a general thing let all the citizens be allowed to participate in it bet

The people I may think should excluded are those in the election office who are the one responsible for setting the date of that election, those are the real insider's.

Even though their gambling is legal but still, I think people who are involved in the election event or candidates in the election and also insiders in the election are not allowed to bet. Because after all, if they are allowed to bet then of course they will be able to manipulate which will allow them to win the bet. Of course, something like this is something wrong if they are involved,so the accusation is also a proof of truth. But even so, people are still allowed to bet, because people do not have access to set the total votes, so it is natural that the organizers may be the ones blamed for being involved in gambling which will also raise suspicion of course.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 02:30:58 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on August 25, 2024, 05:38:46 PM

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

Well, sometimes too, something might have actually lead to bad luck but I agree that the gambler just have to let go of it and have this kind of mindset that gambling is based on luck, which means that one must definitely encounter losses when they don't expect, it doesn't matter if the lose is caused by someone or something.

And sometimes, in my opinion, a good gambler just expects that he can lose. Here, the skill of the player is precisely that his loss would not be critical in terms of the amount of money he lost. And if this is the amount that he can afford to lose, then, accordingly, the negative emotions from losing for such a player will usually not be too strong or even generally, he will accept such a loss almost completely indifferently.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 02:30:58 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on August 25, 2024, 05:38:46 PM

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

Well, sometimes too, something might have actually lead to bad luck but I agree that the gambler just have to let go of it and have this kind of mindset that gambling is based on luck, which means that one must definitely encounter losses when they don't expect, it doesn't matter if the lose is caused by someone or something.

Yes but I think it should be clear that a gambler should not assume that a mistake that results in defeat is bad luck, we must assume or admit that defeat is a part that can never be separated from the game and that is the fact.
We should have a neutral point of view on this activity where by acknowledging that defeat is part of the game and also by understanding that only luck will bring you victory.

Basically gambling will always be an activity that can never be known about the results, whoever you are regardless of whether you are a professional, you will still never be able to accurately predict the results at the end of the game, and I think by having this understanding, it is unlikely for you to blame others, because even if you bet using other people's predictions, of course the prediction will never happen or be executed if you do not agree with it.

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Quote from: I_Anime on August 25, 2024, 05:38:46 PM

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

Well, sometimes too, something might have actually lead to bad luck but I agree that the gambler just have to let go of it and have this kind of mindset that gambling is based on luck, which means that one must definitely encounter losses when they don't expect, it doesn't matter if the lose is caused by someone or something.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 25, 2024, 04:34:29 PM

Quote from: HelliumZ on August 23, 2024, 04:56:50 PM

It is an eternal truth that mistakes will be made in gambling and negative results will be taken if mistakes are made. However, if there is a mistake in gambling, it is not necessary to blame someone else for this mistake. Failure to take proper decisions will certainly result in loss of profit but if the blame for this loss is placed on someone else it will not be a good thing. Right team selection, election, event and even some important games people can bet due to wrong decision but if a gambler loses the bet due to all these wrong decision then it is only for his decision planning in this case of course he blames his wrong decision on someone. In no way can it be the work of the wise.

That's right, normally it's in the nature of humans to acortion blam to others or any slight thing that causes them to fail, but I think instead of putting blam on anyone or anything, it's better to just take note of that particular mistake that results to lose and fix it, so that next time such mistake will not happen.

Though is natural but still o don't see any reason for one to blame anyone for any mistakes especially in gambling. Because no can actually predict the games , once money are being staked that's when one has done his part then the rest boils down to luck . That's why is always good to have this in mind that when it comes to gambling either you win or lose is two ways , even when the game being predicted by a pro anything can happen because no one can really tell whether they are going to win or lose .

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I read somewhere that the case have been judged and the court grant the acclaimed body guard his winning and also made a declaration that, there is no such restriction on who can bet on such event like election and for sure it going to spike alot of controversial comment on the social media because such bet have been subject of controversy for long now and even if the court grant a judgement, the general public will still have alot of things to talk about, between even as a government officials, it shouldn't become a dead end for anyone because we are all citizens with equal right and it shouldn't be that because someone works with president or some other politicians to mean that he will be evicted from such an event that concerns him also since election is a general thing let all the citizens be allowed to participate in it bet

The people I may think should excluded are those in the election office who are the one responsible for setting the date of that election, those are the real insider's.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on August 23, 2024, 04:56:50 PM

It is an eternal truth that mistakes will be made in gambling and negative results will be taken if mistakes are made. However, if there is a mistake in gambling, it is not necessary to blame someone else for this mistake. Failure to take proper decisions will certainly result in loss of profit but if the blame for this loss is placed on someone else it will not be a good thing. Right team selection, election, event and even some important games people can bet due to wrong decision but if a gambler loses the bet due to all these wrong decision then it is only for his decision planning in this case of course he blames his wrong decision on someone. In no way can it be the work of the wise.

That's right, normally it's in the nature of humans to acortion blam to others or any slight thing that causes them to fail, but I think instead of putting blam on anyone or anything, it's better to just take note of that particular mistake that results to lose and fix it, so that next time such mistake will not happen.

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