Topic: They will find someone to blame for their mistakes - page 8. (Read 1911 times)

It sounded like fixed match game in sports betting, but in different bet gambling lol. Guessing game bet like this where there is a set answer is not always a good idea from the gambling platform and bookmaker who set the bets.
Also it's a good part of knowledge to learn that such country have random date to make a national election. Where some country especially in my country have fixed dates, e.g. its always in the second Monday of the month May in every 6 years for national presidential election.

Aren't most election dates set well before the election happens? That's how it is here in the USA at least. We know November 5th is the election day, we also know when the other local elections are happening well before the election is happening.

What elections don't have set dates?

As far as your other question, anyone having inside info shouldn't be betting at all.

People always fantasize about such things, the numbers may not be as huge as other games but they are exclusive, and blaming the casino isn't fair, someone who can't be trusted with such information should not have known that information in the first place so this is the failure of their system and casino is just a business so they look everything as an opportunity to make money.

I don't do such bets because I am not into these things but some people love to bet their money on it so the casino is just giving the opportunity for them.

The main aim of every casino is to maximize profit, and as such I think these casinos must have seen an avenue to maximize profit by initiating gambling of election date, which they are not to be blamed due to the fact that there are people who would have love to try their luck on predicting the date of the general election. Hence, let's not forget that though these date are been set by humans, they are only been known to the public after it's been published by the Prime Minister of U.K, which gives it a good potential for gambling.

 Just as everybody have earlier said, I think the reason why the gambling commission decided to run an intensive investigation was when they got to know that he was one of the bodyguard of the Prime Minister.

Lol, @OP, you never can tell how long such kinds of gambling have been initiated in the casinos of that country, and I think it's not something that the government doesn't know about; if they (the government) don't feel okay or satisfied about it, they will ask the casino not to include it, but it seems they are satisfied with it.The bodyguard is also aware that such games are always added to the casino during the election period. He did everything for himself. On that first thread, I suggested that he should have given the information to someone he trusted so much and asked the person to stake in the game so that they could share the profit, but he decided to take it upon himself without minding the implications it might cause him if he got caught. He should deal with it; blame on him and not the casino, that's my opinion.

I didn't know that there were casinos that offered bets on politically motivated elections. As far as I know, betting casinos only focus on sports, where sports should not be touched by politics. But again, this type of betting cannot be displayed, let alone provided facilities by the casino. Although I don't know if there are any special rules or prohibitions. Betting for the presidential election is relatively unstructured, taking place among hidden people. So it is difficult to detect and provide it to the public.

No matter what, that bodyguard must now show that he bet on the opposing candidate from other people. He must show that he is not interesting to place a bet for the Election. He can asks his friends or family to place a bet, but without anyone else knows so he will not doing a wrong thing. But that depends on himself because some people will not do that for his benefits and he only wants to do his job.

Betting on a certain candidate by secret can be done if he wants to take the benefits and he doesn't have loyal to the candidate or he just wants to make money from the Election. We can't blame him because he can bet by secretly without anyone know. After all, that will be up to him.

The morale can not be bought with money. If someone loyal to one of the candidates, he will not place a bet even he will not lets his relatives takes benefits from what he knows. Besides that, they are working as bodyguard and must guard the Election not to place a bet.

They can separate where the fun things and the work. They don't wants to gets themselves in trouble so they will not tells other people even if they know something. That will not break their unwritten rules so they can feels calm when they work.

A bet wouldn't be made without a gambler's initiative. That initiative on the other hand originated from a desire either to win or be entertained. Regardless of the intention, it will boil down to the fact that as a gambler, you made a choice that time. There's no need to blame anyone actually, even oneself. Focus on the solution; if you tend to regret things then stop doing it. You can't keep doing something if you will be hesitating from time to time and will be seeking to divert regret to other people. It doesn't make sense and won't make a point actually. I don't coin it as a mistake as well. Losing is a normal thing if you're unlucky. Gambling is just the idea of putting a bet on your destiny or luck. You either lose or win. If you cannot bare with the worst outcome then stop thinking of the bright counterpart. You won't win anything if you cannot afford to lose.

As long as it is related to money, then everything will be very easy to manipulate. Whatever it is, it's for the sake of making a profit. Yes, that's what happens in this world. Moreover, this is related to gambling on several things like that which can be regulated in such a way. Presidential election, one of them. This has often been a place for betting so far. And even the big people behind them are sometimes related to it. Ah, make no mistake, betting like this is very popular and many people are even involved.

And even if there are restrictions on who is allowed to bet, that can be manipulated quite easily. It is very rare that loyalty and honesty and compliance with regulations are truly 100%. The thing is, if it is profitable for him, he will definitely make some efforts to optimize it, especially if there is such a way, even though sharing the results of his betting, the nominal amount is definitely not small, right?

Maybe I'm showing that I'm very stupid and ignorant with my comment, but honestly, for years I've been wondering why they place bets on who will win at Miss World? because looking at the women who participate in Miss World, it seems that the winner is a random woman, in which the criteria to make her the winner were created at that moment of the decision, so how do Miss World bettors keep analyzing each woman to determine which one will win? It seems to me that bettors just bet on luck, something like if they were buying a lottery ticket, I say the same thing to Oscar bettors, but in the case of the Oscar, it's because it's something in which the winning categories have started to have a pattern. , so the bettors began to understand what the judges are looking at to define the winners and based on that assumption, then the oscar bettors make analyzes and bet

In my opinion, at least betting on elections makes more sense when compared to betting on Miss World and the Oscars, because in an election we can see the candidates' actions and the reactions of people, their followers and people who don't like the candidates, We can see the data published by research companies and colleges regarding which candidates are being seen as favorites and what percentage of each one wins, based on this it is easier to place a bet

I do not think betting sites should stop setting bets on events like this because there are some people that enjoy predicting the outcome of this type of event and they do not have any inside information. Betting on this tye of event should be very organized and people with inside information should not be allowed to bet. It could be very hard to achieve but they should look for ways that they can make it possible. For those that still go ahead and bet, they should be punished when theynl are caught because they are taking away the fairness of the sites used for the bets. Prediction can be done on everything and it can still be very fair without any manipulation. I love to try my luck on event date predictions and they are lovely.

I think it's less about the possibility of getting votes manipulated, cause after all especially in the case of a high profile individual like the prime minister there's a really slim chance that word gets out about which candidate they wanna win, and more about the integrity of the election itself, cause in some governments it's well-known that elections must be held like some form of sacred ritual and everything that involves election should be taken with utmost care and integrity.

I also see the angle of this, against the first statement I made, being used to manipulate the masses into voting someone else besides what they really want. If for example a Prime Minister that you love and support a lot suddenly began supporting a particular candidate it would be safe to say that a majority of that PM's supporters would be inclined to vote that candidate as well. So there's that.

This you said made me to flash back sport rules that says players aren't allowed to make bet on their match meaning they could played in their favor to win the bet, okay let say what if the information are being given to a family relative to go bet would they still track down to know who gave out the bet?
Do you think most of the footballer out there are making money out of their match whereby they could give their trusted friends to place the bet maybe when it plays correctly then they applies their sharing formular? Yes this is very possible and I can say that Election bet should be removed just as you had said, and it could be manipulate knowing that it is something that could be rigged.

If that is the case, the bodyguard used someone else as a strawman to place the bet and avoid being directly played guilty by the practice of placing a bet when having access to inside information regards that specific event. That is manipulation and cheating, anyway and should be manipulated in every cases.

Yes, that is a dumb kind of event to bet on. And since it's totally vulnerable to a decision made by few individuals, it's heavily likely events like this encourage cheaters who have access to privileged informations to place bets knowing the right result beforehand. In fact, casinos don't seem to care about it at all, but it would be a good idea for gamblers to avoid betting on this kind of event.

To bet on an election's outcome is acceptable, but to bet on the day the respective election is going to take place doesn't make sense at all...

In some situations on a unique type of betting such as this elections bets, some inners staffs who can have access to some vital informations that could aid their winning the bet, are prohibited from betting on such events, and even their family members are also not qualified.


This is not the first time I am hearing bets related to elections because even the Las US election and other elections events such as Candidate to win and also when the election will be held can all be betted on, I don't fine this strange at all

Wagering on events such as the Election or Miss World falls into the realm of gambling; a practice rife with such commonplace actions. But staking on factors that fall under human influence introduces another level altogether, adding an ethical and legal layer should any insider information skewing elections be leaked, like say details of upcoming dates.

The Prime Minister's bodyguard would be ill-advised to wager on the election date. He might possess certain information not within the public domain: hence such a step can be seen as tantamount to insider trading, especially when viewed through the lens of gambling. The practice is evidently unjust, running counter to the fundamental tenet of honesty in gambling.


Hence, it is imperative that betting establishments tread with caution when presenting such a wager. They need to weigh the possibilities of misuse and underhand control that might transpire. It is morally inappropriate for individuals to stake their money on results that lie within the circle of easily accessible privileged information, as this goes against the very essence of integrity for the betting itself. Bet wisely, they must; mindful of potential deceit and dishonesty in the fabric of the wagers offered.

I agree that he shouldn't get paid with that and if the government will do something about him, they can punish them however they want. Because that might be against their standard an as part of it, he shouldn't do something such as gambling with the national election date.

You said it so, about the morale. They're working with the government and they shouldn't do that. It might not be on the books but that should be understood that they must not gamble just as what they knew first before anyone else. Well, just as said, he shouldn't take any money from that bet and the bookie shouldn't reward him on that case.

Most probably the bodyguard bet on the opposing candidate, LOL.. It's not that it's not allowed but I think as a sign of respect, just don't bet on the result of the election when you are serving someone, or if you will bet, you have to make sure it's done in silent. Betting on a certain candidate to win or loss might be easy since the candicate can get an inside information, and as a candicate, they also have their own survey and that information maybe vital enough to determine their chances of winning.

Betting sites operate with a license, and all the games or events in the list are approved by the regulators before it was listed, so they cannot be blame, and  besides how can you blame a platform that only facilitate bets.

We don't knows if that thing is prohibit for the bodyguard or they can asks for the other people helps to place their bet. Maybe it's about morale for every bodyguard to place a bet or just do their jobs to guards. Maybe those bodyguard doesn't even knows what will be the result of the Election because their jobs is just guard until it's finish.

The betting site can't be blame because the betting site gives an entertainment to people and if people thinks that they know the result and wants to make money, they can place the bet for the Election. That will depends on every people what they will do with the Election bet. We don't know much about manipulation of the Election result and if that's really existed, we can't do anything and only watch the result.

Criminals can do everything possible to to hide thier shady scheme. They might be lucky to get away with it but sometimes they can be caught. When it comes to investigation about match-fixing or illegal betting, most of the people connected to the suspect are investigated. The case of Lucas Paquetá is a typical example when he gave his friends tips that he would get yellow cards and encouraged them to place bets on him. They had to trace the case to him home town in Brazil where they discovered that his friends won about £100,000 from bets on him.

The gambling industry is a free sector. Betting platforms are free to engage in any kind of bet if they can take the risk. It is the responsibility of every responsible gambler to obey the gambling rules. A security guard to the prime minister is under a secrecy oath and he should respect it. Anyone who is found cheating the system intentionally should be prosecuted.