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legendary
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zknodes.org
November 24, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
#69
Maybe the newbies haven't joined the campaign yet. Meanwhile, burst posting is actually not only done by beginners but also anyone on this forum who only focuses on the task of completing their posts. Regardless of how good and quality the posts are, because maybe they are just chasing the quantity of posts to meet their targets. And this is often the case. happen.

And for beginners themselves, we often find them posting a thread of new arrivals in this forum and asking for guidance to learn and become good here. After a lot of input and support, then they disappeared and were not as consistent as what they first posted on this board. And this etraid several times. It seems that their inconsistency must also be avoided in this forum so that it can continue to grow.
Newbies who just create threads and then disappear, they won't last long on this forum.
Moreover, you have to get merit to be required to take part in the signature campaign. But there are also some beginners who look enthusiastic and are always involved in discussions and provide good feedback. Beginners like this will develop and become good members later. You really have to be consistent and continue to be active in the forum to be able to understand what is happening in the forum, not just give an opinion and disappear without another response.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 545
November 24, 2023, 04:54:59 AM
#68
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
This post's content is good, and it shouldn't be directed just at newbies. I know that many of them find most of these things difficult, and out of ignorance, they practise one or more of the points mentioned. However, this post should also be directed at all other members, especially lower rank members who are just starting out and don't know much about the forum. The majority of them only care about learning about bitcoin and other cryptocurrency-related subjects, and they assume that they already know the rules governing this forum. This is the mistake that most of them make, which costs them their accounts. Accounts are banned or tagged for careless errors that are easily avoidable.

Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Burst posting is actually not encouraged on the forum as most burst posters end up spamming the forum but is not only done by newbies but instead newbies should learn from this because it is mostly done by higher rank members in paid campaigns to increase their post quota to be eligible for payment for the week. Newbies can engage in this by posting to increase their activity in order to activate the next rank but doing this will only make them tarnish their reputation when they want to participate in signature campaigns, campaign managers don’t like working with such people because most burst posters are spammers. Though there are few members who post in similar manner when new posts are made but they can’t be seen as burst posters or spammers because they make quality posts and useful information that will be helpful to others.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
The merit system implementation was a good idea because, at the time, it was common for people to post short, meaningless messages—one or two lines, or even just a few words—in order to increase their post count. I have seen a lot of old discussion threads and i was surprised to see that more effort was not put into posting back then.
People are now more serious as a result of the merit implementation, and those who wish to move up the ranks will need to work even harder to produce high-quality content and contribute in a meaningful way.

Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I don't know how true this is because I haven't seen or heard of merit trading during my time here, and I haven't received any messages from any member begging for merit or merit trading so far, but if there are rumours of merit trading occurring, then there's a good chance they're true. If someone is committed and dedicated, earning merits is actually not that tough, so why would individuals engage in such behaviour? smerits should not be traded instead, they should be shared to postings that deserve them. Merit trading should be discouraged, and anyone caught in the act should be reported. Newbies should not be eager to obtain merit, as this will simply encourage them to earn it illegally.
newbie
Activity: 10
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November 23, 2023, 06:09:50 PM
#67
On point (1) anybody making an unfiltered posts is not helping hands to grow because your desperation can mislead you not grow well and numatter how speed you are in posting, merit is awaiting and is for constructed posts for the growth of the platform and is not advisable to be desperate than being patient.
member
Activity: 412
Merit: 10
November 23, 2023, 12:58:23 PM
#66
Quote from: kentrolla
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them.  I believe many newbies that has received such DM for merits for sale before this trend or exchange other things with merits will start withdrawing their mind to such activities so that they will not fall victims to scammers or not to cause damage to their personal account because, if you distribut merits anyhow  and, there are amount of merits you can distribute in a month and if you distribute more than that you will face the punishment.

If you look very well as a newbies, you will discover that there are moderators in different discussion sectors in the platform and their duty is to check all the activities that is going on in the platform, and if there are some users disobeying the platform rules, they will be serve the punishment they deserve at the moment.



Already there are punishment for them who are going to sell the accounts and for those who buy accounts as well and the punishments is that they were given negative trust if some accounts found to be present in this areas. Although there should be some users who are going to trade these accounts and also there are members present who finds their account on time and they were treat like they have to be. Also this punishment is severe because every friend of the BitcoinTalk or every member here would be aware of his accounts and the rule itself.
hero member
Activity: 2828
Merit: 611
November 23, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
#65
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them
Well, if you think that a person who is suspected of buying or selling Merits will be banned or their ability to post or send messages is blocked then you are wrong. Even if a moderator or any member finds a person who is involved in such an activity, they won't be ban because this activity is not punishable by a permanent or temporary ban but such users will get negative ratings from reputable members of the forum after which their profile will be marked red.

However, this doesn't mean that users should do it, and it wouldn't even be worth it if they are caught because people usually hunt Merits to rank up and eventually join a signature campaign and they can't do that if their accounts are negative tagged, so their accounts will be useless if they are given negative trust ratings by DT members.
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 421
November 23, 2023, 08:39:00 AM
#64
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
Plagiarism creates the biggest offense in the forum because its clearly a sign of dishonesty, owning the woks of others and claim it to be their own. Obviously, those who are caught doing this should go straight to banning permanently so they won't be able to deceive in the future. However, burst posting is not actually done by beginners since they are still not allowed participating in any signature campaign, but with merit trading, well there are actually number of members who are apparently resorting doing that which for me is very inappropriate and should be given proper sanction once proven in the forum.

Burst posting is likely a general issue, aside from the old members who are very familiar with the rules and policies of the platform. It is not encouraged but sometimes, some posts that comes in that nature seems to be in tandem with the subject matter which needs urgent attention in most cases. Also those posts can be as educative as we could imagine but the manner at which it was posted is more of a burst post.

Plagiarism is more of an intellectual theft, which is against the laws of intellectual property ownership, and this platform is strongly against it. Plagiarism is a crime in the eyes of the law and is punishable, and anyone found wanting would go in for it. This platform is more of an educational platform; in that course, banning accounts was deemed fit for punishment.
member
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Ton Together | Save Smart & Win Big
November 22, 2023, 11:11:05 PM
#63
Totally get it, there's a bunch newbies should grasp about Bitcointalk and its rules to dodge the ban hammer. Plus, let's chat ethics, no buying or selling accounts. I get it, making a fresh account can be a hassle, and some dodge IP issues with a sneaky buy. But truth? Not cool. It's like cheating in the crypto schoolyard. Plus, let's be real, no one likes a ban. So, spread the word to the newcomers. Keep it clean, play by the rules, and let's all ride the crypto waves without any unnecessary wipeouts.
member
Activity: 1165
Merit: 78
November 22, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
#62
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.

You made a point here, mate. This aspect of plagiarism is what I initially thought the OP should have mentioned or included in his or her post so that newbies who come across this thread would see for themselves and know what is obtainable on the platform. The issue of plagiarism has cost many accounts here, and I must say that even after all this awareness, some would still fall victim to plagiarism.
The OP indeed ought to include plagiarism as one of the things beginners ought to avoid on this forum but any beginners who read the forum rules and regulations will understand the consequences of plagiarism. However, there are alot of things beginners need to avoid on this forum an example is things that tarnish their reputation on this forum.
hero member
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royalstarscasino.com
November 22, 2023, 04:28:20 PM
#61
1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Maybe the newbies haven't joined the campaign yet. Meanwhile, burst posting is actually not only done by beginners but also anyone on this forum who only focuses on the task of completing their posts. Regardless of how good and quality the posts are, because maybe they are just chasing the quantity of posts to meet their targets. And this is often the case. happen.

And for beginners themselves, we often find them posting a thread of new arrivals in this forum and asking for guidance to learn and become good here. After a lot of input and support, then they disappeared and were not as consistent as what they first posted on this board. And this etraid several times. It seems that their inconsistency must also be avoided in this forum so that it can continue to grow.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1086
duelbits.com
November 22, 2023, 04:02:49 PM
#60
Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these  activities that is going on here you mentioned.
Indeed. Not only beginners, high rank members are also possible to do burst posting and trade merits. That's actually not only for beginners, but for all the forum members. Every member in this forum must avoid them, it will lead the bad impacts for our accounts. If we care about our accounts, simply avoid everything that are prohibited in this forum, not only burst posting and trading merits.

Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends.  If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean  posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one,  the person deserves a merit.  Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.
Sure. As long as the posts have good quality and meaningful, there is no problem with them.
OP only warned the members who made low quality posts and meaningless posts. There are people who only focused on the quantity of their posts without thinking about the quality. It is what OP referred, we must avoid the bad behavior!!

hero member
Activity: 2814
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November 22, 2023, 03:33:49 PM
#59
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
Plagiarism creates the biggest offense in the forum because its clearly a sign of dishonesty, owning the woks of others and claim it to be their own. Obviously, those who are caught doing this should go straight to banning permanently so they won't be able to deceive in the future. However, burst posting is not actually done by beginners since they are still not allowed participating in any signature campaign, but with merit trading, well there are actually number of members who are apparently resorting doing that which for me is very inappropriate and should be given proper sanction once proven in the forum.
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 421
November 22, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
#58
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.

You made a point here, mate. This aspect of plagiarism is what I initially thought the OP should have mentioned or included in his or her post so that newbies who come across this thread would see for themselves and know what is obtainable on the platform. The issue of plagiarism has cost many accounts here, and I must say that even after all this awareness, some would still fall victim to plagiarism. You cannot just copy an article from elsewhere and post it here for no reason without acknowledging the source of the writeup. It is termed intellectual theft, and it is punishable by law. This platform is also an educational platform, and there are scholars here too who might not like it if their work is captured without them being acknowledged. Plagiarism is punishable by law, so in that case, if accounts are banned here for the offense of plagiarism, I would not hold anything against the moderators but rather the poster who copied and failed to reference their copied work.
hero member
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November 22, 2023, 01:26:45 PM
#57
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.
I have never received such kind of Message before since I joined this forum, and I don't believe it happens because anything we do here are all transparent and is the duty of every member of forum to protect it by reporting that person, awarding merits to anyone is not by anything but because of what the person have contributed to the forum, so if you are a good poster no need in trading merit it will come automatically,

and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Pay for merit? I will blame the newbies. Why buying merits? It is not different from buying an account.
I quite agree with you, if I have money to buy merits then why can't I buy the all account, I don't see any sense of what he has said by saying they pay for merit, even though they are doing it definitely the merit buyer have to be a good poster and if the buyer is a good poster then what is the essence of buying merits, I know for sure no one can merit a shitpost and go free, without called to order.
member
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November 22, 2023, 01:07:29 PM
#56
The system of merit is quite encouraging for the users who are really trying for it and the users in the bitcointalk who really like to get the merit. They also get the reward at the end if they made a quality post and the better post which other users like the most and they users give them in return a merit. This is surely a good thing in the bitcointalk. Also it would be very nice for the person who is sending merit to the other if he gave his question answer. But asking for merit again and again without doing anything good is not a good habit indeed.
sr. member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 422
November 21, 2023, 10:43:35 AM
#55
In my opinion, this message is a lesson for repetition, sometimes you need to be reminded repeatedly to remind or make it easier for newbies who have just joined the forum to avoid things that are prohibited on the forum.

1. Avoid burst posting:
Regarding consecutive posts, @mprep has reminded forum members in the Thread (Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ) contained in point number 32.
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

2. Trading of merits:
The merit system is not directly moderated by the forum, but moderators encourage people to give credit to posts that are objectively high quality, not just posts you agree with.[1]
Merit trading is not recommended in forums because it will clash with the rules applied by the merit system in the forum. The case that befell this user can probably be guessed at where merit trading is heading.[2]

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=940276
full member
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November 21, 2023, 10:33:36 AM
#54
~snip~

Op said that new members should not burst posting but they should not make any posts until they need to. A new member should read more to gather knowledge about the forum and the topic he is interested in. This forum is for sharing knowledge with one another but in most cases newbies who don't have any knowledge about the topic still try to create one either by taking information from google or by sharing misleading information. Most of the newbies won't follow this as a large number of them are here to join the signature campaign and some of the new accounts are alts of higher-ranking members.
newbie
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November 21, 2023, 07:36:08 AM
#53
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
I really don't think this is for a newbie therefore a review on the name of the subject of the post should be considered. Secondly what are the odds that a newbie will be active in participating for a weekly target for a bounty campaign as you put it. Is a newbie suppose to be in any campaign??? Pardon my intrusive and inquisitive question.
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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies

receiving a PM from a random user asking you to pay for merits should be the first sign of a red flag except a person is solely fishing for merit, this shouldn't be of any interest to anyone as merits are earn based on the quality of the content that you've put out for consumption.
full member
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November 21, 2023, 01:00:06 AM
#52
Quote from: kentrolla
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them.  I believe many newbies that has received such DM for merits for sale before this trend or exchange other things with merits will start withdrawing their mind to such activities so that they will not fall victims to scammers or not to cause damage to their personal account because, if you distribut merits anyhow  and, there are amount of merits you can distribute in a month and if you distribute more than that you will face the punishment.

If you look very well as a newbies, you will discover that there are moderators in different discussion sectors in the platform and their duty is to check all the activities that is going on in the platform, and if there are some users disobeying the platform rules, they will be serve the punishment they deserve at the moment.

sr. member
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Let love lead
November 21, 2023, 12:20:40 AM
#51
When I look at the content of the thread and check the rank of OP, some things are not adding up here and needs close observation. This account could've possibly been bought by a lower rank member cos this post is exactly what a junior member or member can do. The post quality is a disappointment to all the respectable hero members in the forum and its the last word in quality. You are itemizing things that a newbie should avoid and these two are the only points you can itemize and they're not even applicable to beginners. with your rank in the forum, your years of experience is questionable my dear.  Merrit trading is the most uncommon thing in the forum and not an advise for beginners, what they need are advises to learn better and engage more in forum activities. And lots have been pointed earlier though and there's no need to repeat them.
hero member
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Livecasino.io
November 18, 2023, 03:33:15 PM
#50
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
This doesn't apply to those who are not in any campaign. A newbies cannot be accepted into signature campaigns to this is ruled out for them. I think the best thing to say here is to avoid spamming as a newbie. And from my observations, spamming happens mostly in mega threads. Simply advise newbies to avoid threads that has past 15 pages. The only exception here is the football threads in the gambling boards and even as at this they should do it cautiously.
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