Topic: Things to avoid as a beginner - page 2. (Read 686 times)

I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.

Trading merits is not the same as sending out your smerits to the post that deserves to be merited.  Because when you are talking about merit trading, that is, when you send some of your smerits to someone and expect the return of the exact amount of smerit that you sent out, I have searched the forum and I didn’t see any where in which they said something like that is allowed to do, and you can see that we have some cases on the forum where they drag some account that they are abusing the merits system, so those people are the ones that do the thing you are talking about, and if it’s allowed to do, they won’t call them out for such cases.


Allowed? How and when? Because I haven’t come across anything like that, don’t you think this forum will not go as wanted again? We will lack meaningful content, and that is why people in the community did not support such an act. However, theymos said you will be the one to risk your account to get a red flag, which means you will risk your account, and from there, possibly you may lose your account if we find out that is what someone did to get to such a rank, so let me ask: did you want your account to get tagged?

It is not disallowed by the forum. Users can do it and theymos said he knows there is dark market and if there is a dark market for merit exchange, he feels fine about it.

Only forum community are against it, discourage it because it will create unfair forum where shit posters can rank up by buying or exchanging merit.

I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit. If you see any post that you believe is useful to you or the forum and you think it’s worth meriting, then you can merit it.
 
What the OP means by trading merit is that you might receive a random message from a forum member asking you to send merit to them, then they will pay you back the amount of merit that was sent to them, and some will request merit from you, and they will offer to pay for the merit. Things like that are not allowed on the forum here, and if you are caught, your account is going to be tagged.

I can say most of the newbies on the forum are here because they just want to rank up their account and join signature campaigns, and they want to rank up their account without making any impact on the forum. Some of them don’t even care to go through the forum rules and regulations, which is why they end up going against forum rules and losing their accounts. If you join the forum primarily because of merit, I'm sure you won’t be getting merit, but if you join with the mindset to learn and make an impact on the forum, I'm sure gradually you are going to be able to accumulate merit.

Any newbie that’s planning to give up because they didn’t receive merit is free to give up. We need people that are ready to make contributions to the forum, and the once that can make an impact on people, if you are here just because of merit, then you don’t have anything to offer. If you want to give up, you are free to do that, because even if you don't give up, you won't be receiving merit. We all know merit is not given anyhow, if you can’t make quality posts, then you won't be receiving merit, and don't be surprised that some quality posts don't even receive merit.

Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; instead, you just need to calm down and ask what the process is. The primary goal that some novices pursue on the forum and inside a forum is merit. You won't receive merit if you don't do anything to earn it. To persuade some senior members to grant you merit, you should create quality posts and excellent answers with insightful comments.

Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum. I have even witnessed a newbie trying to quit because he did not receive a merit and feels like he is wasting his time. I told him that everything needs to be patient and that if he understands the forum, he will receive merit in a way he did not anticipate. My advice to all newbies is to never give up on the forum; instead, keep trying until you achieve your goals.

For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.

Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these  activities that is going on here you mentioned.  Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends.  If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean  posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one,  the person deserves a merit.  Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.

For me, all these things are unnecessary as a newbie because the forum has more than enough ways for you to learn and eventually help yourself out but so many users still don't really want to learn because if not I think buying of merit is really an outrageous move to take in a community like this. Although same with me for the actual merit trading PM from other members, I also haven't gotten any Pm and I believe that maybe it might be true but I feel it rarely happens.

I kind of like the merit system and how it all works as it encourages and help people to get intentional regarding the kind of topics and contribution that is coming from there end. I believe that if you organically build your account from newbie into a full member, it should call for respect and celebration because it is an indication of your positive contribution to the forum. Whoever I receive any merit for making any contribution in the forum, it gives me this sense if fulfilment that I am headed in the right direction and will also encourage me to do better.

IF you are in a campaign then provably you shouldn't do that especially if you intentionally do it just to increase your post count to meet your weekly quota since for sure you will be in big trouble especially if the manager is so against on this kind of act. We should consider the value of our post and we must do extra effort like researching some information if you can't fully understand the keyword use by the poster so that we can answer them correctly or at least we have sense on what we are talking.

Many can post a lot here but its hard to do quality posting since it needs a lot of understanding so that we can contribute to the post and help under to understand some situations they want to ask.

Most of the time we can see those people do post bursting and its really annoying to read them since most of their post doesn't have any context and they made their post just to increase their post counts.

It is not true. Bounty managers are very strict about the discussions and information you share on the forum. They check very closely, and if you do not comply with the rules, you will be removed from the campaign. It has happened to me three times in this year from different bounty managers, so just because you were accepted into a signature campaign doesn't mean you should start posting bursts.

Participants are paid per week if they deserve it, so your point on this part isn't so good, bounty managers aren't stupid, they are fit to handle any campaign, and that's why they are capable of doing so..

Have you received any texts from strangers asking you to share your merits with them so they can do the same for you? We need the screenshot to believe this. Merit can only be earned if you deserve it, so engage in discussions and drop quality replies, and you will receive merit from people who enjoy your content.

It probably won't be a problem for people who have received such messages in the past and didn't share them with anyone else. Because for those who have never received a message like that, it can definitely be very useful if someone wants to tell them about it first before they receive it in the future. In this forum, everyone really likes to share knowledge and useful ways of producing something, so there is no problem with this message if someone wants to tell it to other people.

Initially I doubted the op when I read the thread but I had a second thought after getting to see another member who commented on receiving a similar pm as the op so right now I think I will stand by saying I believe a lot of things I don't trust on the forum but I would have loved to see the messages sent to those users even though the names of the senders won't be indicated. I hope I don't receive such message because I won't be cool with knowing very well that merut is one of the easiest things to receive here since it is not sold and it is never scarce, doing a little good job here will surely bring merits to any user even though it doesn't come very fast but surely it will come so needless of begging for it rather one can ask that his or her account to be reviewed so that quality posts that are worthy to be merited will get merits some reputable members are always ready to review some good post anything.

Beginners are not entitled to join signature campaigns. So this burst posting is not applicable for beginners in the forum, but maybe what you are trying to say are those that have only started to work on signature campaigns. Of course, burst posting is strictly not allowed, otherwise they will be removed from the campaign, or worst they will get banned from engaging into different campaigns.

And with this trading of merits, its clearly bias. Merits are being earned because you deserve it, not because you exchange merits with other forum members. If you keep on doing it, it's actually not a loss in the forum but its a big loss of yours. You are depriving yourself from creating growth in the forum, earning more merits means that you have positive improvements, not because you sabotage the forum.

I actually thought I was the only one that's got similar PMS like this.. it was funny when i first saw it - I wanted to make a post with picture evidence and the rest, but I decided that it'll just be unnecessary and decided to ignore 'em. After along while, I realized that the connections between several accounts are always through these means..
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Burst posting must have different meaning to different people and everyone will claim that theirs is the best meaning of it. Burst posting to my own understanding is commenting on a dead post that have no engagement for a long time, commenting a post that has no meaningful value or contributing something effective to the discussion. It is totally meaningless and unnecessary to comment on such posts, that to me should be burst posting and not the one you explained as giving gap between posts. I can be posting on a regular interval for upto 5 posts, and if they are meaningful contents that is adding value to the topic, I don’t regard it as burst posting.

 I don't think he will just make this post if he is not sure about what he is saying. That you have not received such message before doesn't mean that others have not received messages like that and kept quiet. He is speaking out so that you will be aware of what is happening. Maybe you might receive such message in the future, as no one can predict what will happen tomorrow.

Adhering to this is the most important thing for newbies, we have seen many newbies spamming constantly. Basically they don't have spiritual knowledge in this matter due to which they make such mistakes, so this post of yours will be most helpful for them. There are many new users who just come to the forum and start posting bursts, for which they face problems and many times users get their accounts banned. Basically, people who copy and paste their accounts get banned, so be careful here. And when a person goes to show high he must post good quality to qualify. But some people spam for qualifications and take qualifications by messaging many people to advance their accounts. However, most of the newbies do this kind of mistake so they should keep these things in mind, but can move forward in future. Thank you for bringing up such a beautiful topic among all.

One thing you should take very seriously is to not always forget what you have learnt so far and don't forget the information that has been passed across to you. So many persons that were banned from the forum have been aware of plagiarism and they still go ahead to do i So if you were corrected on a particular error or something wrong you should always have it at the back of your mind That is the easiest way to grow and become a better member of the forum.

As a newbie, what you should be concerned is about how to learn especially the dos and don'ts of the forum, also take out time to learn the activities of the forum and ask questions where necessary so you don't make mistakes or blonder, try as much as possible to keep to the rules of the forum because keeping through the rules will make you not to fall victim of any offence, because they are your guide here in the forum.