Topic: Things to avoid as a beginner - page 3. (Read 709 times)

Yeah, obviously, these types of people are doing Similar activities are performed because the purpose of these people is spamming and making money. Besides, the aim of these people is not to make any knowledge or dissection on this forum, while their aim is only to make money; it should be post-brusting or any other spam.
 
If the purpose of these people was to gain knowledge on this forum, then these people definitely do not like to go against the rules. And they would conclude that it is undesirable to do this activity on this forum because this activity is inappropriate on a discussion forum. Also, the meaning of saying is that these people have to complete the posts for the aim campaign, as some members said earlier that these people fill up this forum with junk by making the campaign post the topic. This is a sucky act; whoever is doing it should avoid it in the future.

I was actually informed about this particular message you're passing right now, thank you so much we the newbie will definitely take note.

These things should be avoided by all members in this forum, whether new members and old members. Please remember! It is not only to avoid by newbies, you must always avoid them even if you are old members.

Other things that we must avoid, we can see through this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657.

1. Avoid burst posting
I believe, a normal newbie will prefer to read more than post more. When you just join a forum, you need time to understand everything in the forum. That will trigger you to spend much time for reading, at least you read the basic things in the forum. So, it is a bit strange if you try to do burst posting, you've no advantage to make many posts.

2. Trading of merits
I assume newbies still don't know about this. They even don't care about merits because they probably don't understand about the advantage of merits. Those who buy merits, probably not pure newbies. I suspect they are alt account of old members.

Actually, the topic you created has already been created by other users, it's just been hidden for a long time, but I appreciate your intention to make this reminder post again.

Burts posting and trading merit is prohibited in this forum, I still remember there were many members who were banned for doing merit trading, while Burts posters would usually be tagged by the DT team and it would be difficult to be able to take part in the BTC paid campaign, even though this is an open forum However, there are many rules that must be obeyed, all in order to keep this BTT forum conducive and maintained.

Op I think you need to show some proof probably from messages you and some of the people who have in some ways contacted you concerning the exchange of merits if you want me to believe your story otherwise I will regard this as one of those stories that is shared to get the attention of the members of the forum. I hope you are not by any way bringing up the things you do because if you are found to have done any of these things that you mentioned here then you will be the first partaker of the reward( punishment)

Burst posting is totally a big NO when you are in a signature campaign, and I don't think only beginners are capable to do this because even those members in higher position are still doing this just to complete the weekly requirement task, which will eventually lead into removing your account from the campaign you are currently into. This is the reason why burst posting is always discouraged, as that could also affect that quality of the post at some point.

If what you mean is burst posting.
What you are talking about is true. That every member of this forum is prohibited from making burst posts, if the post is spam. However, not all burst posts are spam. So quite a few members make quite a lot of posts every day, but these posts are very high quality and useful. So in my personal opinion, the thing that is best avoided is creating bursts of spam posts. Because even if, for example, a forum member makes one or two posts per day, if the post is a spam post, it's still not good.

Honestly, I personally have never received a DM containing a message like that. Besides, I have never heard of such a case. So, did you get this information based on personal experience or from other people's experiences? Because I just found out that in this forum there are people who do things like that. If this information is true, it is best avoided. Because if the chronology is as explained by the OP, this is clearly a cheating method that can be very detrimental. But I'm sure, if this ever happens on this BTT forum. Nowadays it is likely that such situations are very rare. Because currently I think the members on this forum are much more alert and careful. And this will clearly make it difficult for fraudsters like that to carry out their actions.

Honestly speaking, I also rush to open this thread thinking I will have something to learn from it but I got disappointed. Learning is a continuous process and anytime I see posts like talking about newbies and beginner, I don't hesitate to open because my believe has always been that I will also have something to learn either directly from the op or from the comment section. This is just like teaching when you are also suppose to learn. It's obvious that OP has no idea of what he's trying to say entirely because this forum as far as I know, is never against posting or put limitation on daily number of post as far as there's nutrients and helpful information in the posts. However, some campaign managers frown against posting for the sake of meeting up with weekly quota such as posting half of the weekly require post in a single day.

It's possible to be posting once a day and it will still be shit post without meaningful content in it. It's basically not about the gap but how informative the post is.

This is the first time I’m seeing the term “Bubble posting”, burst posting is the more appropriate and common term used here. Campaign managers each have their own opinion on post bursting and deal with it individually. It’s really obvious when you see a user who is trying to make posts to complete their weekly quota, the posts are usually generic, low quality and sometimes even off-topic. No company will want to pay for trash posts.

I don’t think it’s the role of moderators to find merit circles and identify those who may be trading merits. Have you received any DMs regarding merit trading? If so, you should open a topic in reputation and tag the accounts with proof. I’m sure there are telegram groups where scammers sell accounts and merits, I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to send such pms on the forum.

So this is the reason why you intentionally give at least a hour gap between your previous post and next post in order to not trigger the campaign manager to kick you?

If you're not get merit airdropped, you're still a member rank lol.


Do you think you're not?

I, as an user who have been here for 3 years, never get any single DM asking to share/buy merit.

Where's the proof if the moderators can easily identify that and ban those cheaters?

On the 1. I guess you are talking about the Burst posting, some of the members doing those but keep making nonsense post like they are just spamming but there are some quality content with the continuous post could be different factors but most likely because they are trying to reach their weekly quota if they are joined in a signature campaign, I'm not talking as general.
2. Based on my experience never receive any DM for just begging merit, it's useless to deal with it instead keep yourself knowledgeable and be a contributor to the community merit will chase you.

Additionally with your thread too @op avoid commenting into an old thread just to up that conversation again if it's not really essential, we called those as necro bumpers just to meet their post requirements.

Being an experienced member by stay on this forum, i expect you to give or deliver more than this, there are many things a newbie is expected to take a look on, if i may also consider these two points you've raised, these are already discussed aspects on countless times, more additional information could have been added to sauce it up.


This aspect talks about post bursting, this is not allowed wether you join a campaign or not, doing so is what lead to spamming which is not allowed as well, you can read more about these here

posting etiquettes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-posting-etiquette-5184741

topic title style guide by Theymos
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1128795


Anything outside this contents is not allowed for merit, there's no howbyou will engage doing merit manipulations without getting caught, don't abise the merit system, don't merit your alt and don't sell or buy merits.

everything you need to know about forum rank, activities and merits.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177

I believe you meant burst posting...

Anyway, I don't know how applicable this is with high ranked members as it's expected that they know their way around the forum and some of the rules..unless it's a bought account or something, but when it comes to beginners meaning lower ranked members I think the forum has a mechanism of its own that prevents users from post bursting with an inbuilt waiting timer for each rank before a new post can be made and this works well...

The use of the word "MosT" makes this sound like a very common habit around the forum, but unfortunately haven't run into such...

It is very common for people who come from the bounti section to this section to make such mistakes. When a user is working on a bounty campaign there is no restriction on posting he can submit his report whenever he likes but there are some differences in the rules for posting in other sections of the forum apart from the bounty section. In other sections of the forum a member cannot post one by one at will. When a member posts one after the other in other sections of the forum, his/her post will be considered as bust posting and over-posting can easily get his/her post deleted and a member may incur various bans. If posts are regularly deleted or if a member gets banned before, his account may face many problems later on, so posting should follow the rules of the forum.

While this never happened to me before.  It is such a stupid and silly move.

You can get Merits with such ease if you only show interest in this Forum.  You do not show interest, you gain no Merits because you just do not deserve to be Merited.  I am not a master of Bitcoin Talk or any thing like that.  But it is little effort to earn Merits up to some extent.  Of course.  With each new point you will need to increase post quality if you want other users to believe you deserve more.

There have been cases of users getting banned because of this.  And it is too pathetic for me to handle these cases.  Were they seriously lacking even the minimum brain resources required to earn a damn point so they had to resort to trading Merits?  What in the world.

Trading merit is discouraged by forum community because it helps shit posters, farm accounts to rank up. After they rank up from merit farming, they will spam in forum and makes the forum worse in quality.

Trading merit is not prohibited by forum rules but are forum rules important or is community voice more important?

If I look at the title you gave, this is advice for beginners. If they are still beginners then they haven't had the opportunity to register in the signature campaign because their rank is not yet high enough to meet the campaign requirements, so I don't think it's appropriate for you to give advice like this. For campaign participants who post too quickly or use up their entire posting quota in one or two days, this is usually called a post burst


I've never received a PM regarding someone requesting or sharing merit, so I don't know whether things like this often happen or not. However, if they are still beginners, chances are they don't have any smerit yet so it will be difficult for them to share their merit with each other.

Their is so many things beginners have to avoid to get things they want, so if a beginners want to stay clear in the forum I think the first thing to do is to be making  a cogent posts that's more formative in meaning and also ensure that they avoid plagiarism and spamming, sometimes even Paraphrasing, because most of the newbie twist an already made post and interchanges the words of those the post, when you cross checked some of the threads in the forum you can attest that so many of the newly established thread has been discussed been discussed before.

I think you meant burst posting. I would have agreed with you if you mentioned beginners. This is because a full member could also be regarded as a beginner. But in the Op as I bolded above, you mentioned NEWBIES. A newbie cannot burst post, no matter how they try to. When I was a newbie I tried posting fast consecutively but I was restricted by the system. There is a mechanism that stops newbies from posting fast consecutively, but as they grow in rank the restriction fades away because the time between posts is raised.

So, burst posting is not a problem of the newbies but rather established members.

About what you said in number two, merit sharing. It would have been good you bring an evidence

If you are a shit poster, you won't be able to rank up because no one will give a shit poster merit. If you want to rank up on the forum here, then you have to be a quality poster. If you are not making any contribution to the forum, then you will find it difficult to rank up.

I haven't received a message like this before. I am not saying forum members might not be doing that, some members can go to extra miles just because they want merit and they are not ready to make any impact on the forum. I am sure if you are making a contribution to the forum, you will receive merit without contacting anyone for merit trading.

I don't know if you have received a similar message before? If you have received a similar message, you should have just reported the account. Since you have evidence that the account contacted you, you don't have to keep on covering up for members like that. A thread can be created on the reputation board with your evidence attached to it. Also, if you find yourself in groups like that, you can just try and get their forum account, and you can easily report them.

I just remembered that you didn't mention people that do buy and sell forum accounts. I think that's really common on the forum here. There are people that do sell forum accounts. We all have to avoid buying forum accounts because with time you're going to be exposed. It's better to create and build your own account.