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That's just too silly. After all, how could you keep roaches out of all the food. Sooner or later a customer would kill one by eating it.

 

Vegetarian restaurant owner did not want to kill cockroaches on moral grounds





The owner of a popular Dickson vegetarian restaurant was morally opposed to wiping out a cockroach infestation because it would have involved "killing little insects".

Kingsland Vegetarian Restaurant was on Thursday fined $16,000 for eight food safety breaches.

ACT Health inspectors discovered the live and dead cockroaches in the kitchen of the northside eatery in April 2013.

The threat to public health through contaminated food meant the inspectors shut the "unhygienic" restaurant the next day.

But on Thursday the ACT Magistrates Court was told that the restaurant, which is still trading, has since fixed the problems and won awards for its vegetarian and vegan fare.

Kingsland Vegetarian Restaurant owner Khanh Hoang was originally charged with 12 breaches of the Food Act.

He pleaded guilty to eight offences and appeared for sentence in the ACT Magistrates Court on Thursday afternoon.

Court documents said the northside eatery – which specialises in vegetarian cuisine – had been granted an operation certificate in December 2012.

Inspectors raided the restaurant four months later after a public tip-off to discover the breaches, which included a cockroach infestation, incorrect food storage, a dirty kitchen and equipment and obstructed and faulty handwashing facilities.

Court documents included pictures that show a number of live and dead cockroaches around the kitchen, including close to cooking equipment.

At the time, no action had been taken to fix the insects' access points or eradicate the infestation.

Court documents said: "The presence of insects is a key indicator that surfaces are unclean and food is left unattended."

The toilet did not have an air-lock or self-closing door, which meant it opened directly into the kitchen.

Food had been stored in uncovered containers inside the dishwasher and freezer.

Parts of the walls and floors had not been cleaned for a considerable period and had a thick accumulation of grease, dirt, and other material.

Surfaces and equipment – such as stove top and dirty pots, pans and trays – had been left uncleansed, and covered in dirt, food waste and debris.

A missing tap handle meant the hand washing basin could not supply warm running water.

The restaurant was banned from selling food, but cleared to open six days later when the breaches had been corrected.

Mr Hoang attended an interview with the Health Protection Service in June 2013, where he admitted he had been aware of the cockroach infestation but did not carry out pest control measures as it involved "killing".

But pictures tendered in court by defence lawyer Adrian McKenna on Thursday showed the kitchen now in a pristine state.

Mr McKenna said the restaurant has not breached any food standards since 2013.

The lawyer said his client had passionate vegan values but accepted, in hindsight, that his morals had been misguided.

Mr Hoang now brought in a pest control team on a regular basis, has since won awards, and appointed a food safety supervisor.

Magistrate Maria Doogan described the restaurant in the new pictures as immaculate.

She found the offences to be mid-range and convicted and fined Mr Hoang $2000 on each count.

Ms Doogan said she took into account his limited capacity to pay the fine and loss of reputation.

She gave Mr Hoang  one year to pay the total of $16,000 in fines.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/vegetarian-restaurateur-did-not-want-to-kill-cockroaches-on-moral-grounds-20150201-1313kf.html


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"...owner did not want to kill cockroaches on moral grounds...", but had no moral issues putting at risk the life of humans who paid for his food.

Let's hope this was a very, only, unique, never again, case of a vegetarian restaurant that did this, all the way in australia. If not, then...

 

Yes, thank goodness we do.  It would be difficult if we often confused oranges with fruit, or bitcoin with money for example. 

Survival of the fittest in a sense and also a reminder to stay out of their elements
Then again humans win since we eat shark fins and have Alligator Gumbo as a species we sure eat a lot of different species
Nom.

If your swimming you can be eaten by a shark or a Crocodile....

Animals would eat us if they could.... I have no Meat guilt at all... Mmmmm delicious animals

Thank Goodness the animals know the difference. 

You're right, there is a difference between a member of a set and the set itself.  Kinda hard to put your finger on the difference though.   

-- bon appetit

  We need to impose our humanity and our codes to the animal kingdom by making humans the same as animals, even lions and insects...

A lion doesn't consult with a zebra when its hungry, the are advantages to bring the dominant species ie. "top of the food chain"

It is obvious we need a guidance from the anti meat eaters. They can tell us if we can eat an insect or a jelly fish...  

More than this, what limits are there to freedom?

A vegetarian activist might attempt to require all people to become vegetarians. At such a time a meat-eating-only activist might oppose the vegetarian. Then government steps in and what is the result? Loss of freedoms, and more taxes.

Hold to your sacred ideals. Preach to others with the hope of turning them to your way of thinking. But at the end of the day, freedom for all with the following limitations:
1. Harm nobody;
2. Damage the property of nobody else;
3. Fulfill your contracts.

"But, but, but, animals are somebodies." They might be to each other. But they are not to people. Animals are not "somebody" with regard to people. There is a huge difference between people and animals. You don't think so? Be faithful to yourself if that's what you think, and stop living in a house, stop wearing clothes, don't cook your food, and drink from the river.



EDIT: And, I wasn't picking on Elwar. I was simply extending what he had commented.

And that is the main decider, at what point do we plant our flag and say "at this point on we do not kill"?

I would think that most of us would not kill a monkey that can actively speak sign language just to fill our bellies.

Even vegetarians choose at what level of life they are willing to kill. Do you swat at a mosquito or step on a bug? What about living viruses? Do you bring out the holocaust inducing bleach to eradicate bacteria and other living organisms? Is there a certain configuration of living cells that is ok to kill and not ok?

You might plant your flag and say that anything with a smaller brain than maybe 1000 cells can be killed but anything more than that is off limits. This is the same as a meat eater saying we will not eat something with the intellect of a monkey or horse or house pet, but beyond that everything is fair game. Or being willing to kill a human based on some pre-defined justification.

First the ability to do so needs to be established, then the willingness to do so.

I wonder if, by protecting all animals from being eaten by mankind, that includes insect too?

No problem, the argument can also go the other way. Us libertarians complain about the government and yet we are willing to use force against those that have less power than us (animals). It makes you wonder, if you were actually in charge would you do anything differently? Especially considering you already have that choice and you choose to use force.

Something to think about. I will not try to justify my eating meat. I can probably count the number of vegetables I like on one hand and those are mostly of the potato chip/nacho chip variety. I know it is unhealthy but I try to expand my tastes as much as I can hope to. I have also at times phased in meat substitutes but those processed frankensteins are probably not all that much healthier than the meat version.

Good point, thank you.  My apologies to Elwar for misinterpreting. 

He said can, not must.

Just curious bro, what kingdom of life do you think you belong to?  Plants?  Fungus? 

Do you have more power than your infant child?  Then by your logic you must have killed and eaten it. 

Also consider that your family might be able to help you if you let them live.  Just because you can kill something does not mean that doing it is beneficial to you. 

Speaking of survival of the fittest, if you cared about longevity you might be interested to try considering your health. 

It is called survival of the fittest. That is what our world revolves around.

Our governments have more guns, that is how they are able to tell us what to do and jail us if they want to jail us or kill us if they want to kill us.

Humans have more power than animals. That is why we can kill them and eat them.

If you are outraged about this, are you equally outraged about our governments being able to steal money from us and kidnap us?

If animals had more power than humans, then things would be different.

We live in an anarchist world, if you want to protect animals, protect them with guns from the other humans (or convince those with the most guns, ie the government, to protect the animals from humans).

1 Zinger fillet burger
1 Portion spicy wings
1 Mash potato in gravy
1 Large  fries
1 Large  Coke

and then go drink coffee for good health   

2 Biscuites, 2 Apple Turnovers, and a Side Salad, right?