Pages:
Author

Topic: This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism - page 52. (Read 33901 times)

sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Bytecoin: 8VofSsbQvTd8YwAcxiCcxrqZ9MnGPjaAQm
Quote
This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism

Why are these three things linked together: free market, Americans, and libertarianism?  Libertarianism and the free market go against everything America stands for.  Is this a case of outside observers mistakenly thinking that America is libertarian and pro-free market?  Because I assure you, it is not.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Well whoever the author of that book was is confused at least on that point; in seeking to apply an external standard of goodness to God's behavior
Not external. His own. What good is a god who does not follow his own edicts?
When you understand that, biblically speaking, every single human being is lawfully condemned to eternal separation from their creator, death of the body and continued death of the spirit, before they ever take their first breath, and that God has the right (and, in fact, the obligation) to administer judgment eventually, then things start to make a whole lot more sense.

The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.
I disagree completely. Same exact personalities. Yes, that was intentionally plural.

The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.
He's also clearly described as jealous and narcissistic throughout.
He claims to be. Though it would be objectively evil for them not to be. The very behavior which is a moral evil for us is actually a moral necessity for them. Nevermind the whole unlimited being thing and all the implications that that entails.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.
A better explanation would be insanity. Specifically, a severe case of manic-depressive disorder. He's also clearly described as jealous and narcissistic throughout.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
The character prescribed as God changes between novels.  I assume the "Christian God" is the New Testament version.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Well whoever the author of that book was is confused at least on that point; in seeking to apply an external standard of goodness to God's behavior
Not external. His own. What good is a god who does not follow his own edicts?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
i should join their forum, and see how long before a ban. if i did said i supported communism...

hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

And statists are emotionless sociopaths.
Yup. He started off this discussion by complaining the the NAP was "forcing" him not to use force on others.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Quote
However, there exists in our minds an imaginary entity called “God,” and this entity is considered perfectly moral. Unfortunately, this entity continually and grossly violates the edict that “violence is wrong” by drowning the world, consigning souls to hell despite a perfect foreknowledge of their
“decisions,” sanctioning rape, murder, theft, assault and other actions that we would condemn as utterly evil in any individual.
christian god? okay... i read on...
Where the heck did you just pull that from?
tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
Well whoever the author of that book was is confused at least on that point; in seeking to apply an external standard of goodness to God's behavior, they're demonstrating a lack of understanding regarding the bible's basis of what "good" even is. Good and God are effectively synonymous in biblical thought, the latter defining the former by very definition. Goodness literally being Godness, (or to quote Jesus, none is good, except God alone; and to quote Paul, all good things come from God) but that's a different topic entirely.

Like I said previously though; when we have a goal in mind, we can determine the efficiency of a particular set of parameters toward contributing to that goal. So while I deny the cognitive basis of that sort of morality, I recognize that one can determine the empirical pragmatism of operating in accordance with that morality toward contributing to a stated goal.

IE, absolute morality is logical, even if you don't understand why it's logical. You don't have to understand why gravity works, just what it does. Unless of course you're actually a brain inside a jar being fed an artificial reality. In which case, I guess we'll never know. Sad
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.

And statists are emotionless sociopaths.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.
You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.
This is a conclusion, based on your statements, that trying to convince you to use your mind is a waste of my time. Not a personal attack.
tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
And you call him biased?
Quote
powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.
yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.
No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.
i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.
By contrast, you are implying here that because we hold views differing from your own, that we are retarded.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.
You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
And you call him biased?
Quote
powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.
yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.
No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.
i have never claimed that i was not biased(i think...). whats your problem? libertards are libertards.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
I still think anyone who would shoot me over money simply because it was no longer illegal still has a lot of living left to do.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
And you call him biased?
Quote
powerful ideas for all lovers of personal and political freedom.
Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show in the world.
yes, they are indeed self proclaimed libertards.
No, they are self-professed libertarians. Your use of the pejorative, "libertard" shows your bias, not theirs.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.
You can't even spell "conclude"

You're hopeless.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
i conclue that he have based his opinions upon a incomplete system of axioms.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
and math(peano arithmetic; 2+2=4) have already been shown to be incomplete or inconsistent, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris%E2%80%93Harrington_theorem
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
yes, based on rules i have to subjectively accept before i can do math, i could just reject them and be done with it.

But then you'd be a fruit Tongue  A pineapple, specifically, because I have to subjectively accept whether or not you're a human being.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
And you call him biased?
Quote
The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.
and that is a subjective opinion!
Is it merely an opinion that 2+2=4?
yes, based on rules i have to subjectively accept before i can do math, i could just reject them and be done with it.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
tha libertard book, that myrkul linked!
And you call him biased?

Quote
The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.
and that is a subjective opinion!
Is it merely an opinion that 2+2=4?
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
You are WRONG!
Quote
The scientific method, rationality itself, and mathematical laws are all examples of objective criteria for
establishing the truth of a proposition.
and that is a subjective opinion!
Pages:
Jump to: