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Topic: Those who are Spamming the trust system. Action needs to be taken! - page 4. (Read 10593 times)

KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
While I don't see -2542 I also don't see +18.



legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
powersirj NEW SPAMMER


6 spammed trusts ratings a day, 14 months without a Monarch, -2542 Trust rating for Inaba. 1 big smile on my face. PRICELESS.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
If any actions will be taken against the accounts in the first message, than the same actions should be taken to these accounts. They do the same things.

 I'm no spammer, friend. I resent the implication.

Here is the simple difference.

1 post on an ethical / trust concern vs what BFL shills and BFL multiple accounts repeating non-sense now 6 or more times. That is spam and that is not allowed there is no way anyone is violating someone else's trust day after day. BFL Scammed millions over a long period and that constituted individuals to post once against their trust not a day after day campaign. When people post a single negative comment regarding a single event or concern then that is fair use of the system. For example I posted that BFL are being sued in Rapturoso trust as he is helping promote BFL to further defraud the community. I don't need to do this 2x or 3x or 4x. I do this once per spammer. Looks like BFL is only making 1 new multiple account per day now.

New Spammer Today April 7th, 2014:

Rapturoso

Code:
BFL being sued for breach of contract. Case Name:Meissner v. BF Labs Inc. and this 
Case Cause:28:1330 Breach of Contract or Case No. 2:13-cv-2617 JURY TRIAL REQUESTED
Do not buy pre-order from BFL and do not use their mining hosting services.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-miner-manufacturer-alleges-fraud-negligence/;
 https://ia600702.us.archive.org/13/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.95395/gov.uscourts.ksd.95395.docket.html;
http://ia700702.us.archive.org/13/items/gov.uscourts.ksd.95395/gov.uscourts.ksd.95395.2.0.pdf


Remember there are hundreds of unfortunate BFL customers that got scammed like Martin Meissner who is still looking to recover $62,000 since 2013 or  William Lolli , who won a judgement of over $13,000 but still can't collect because BFL refuses to pay. How can people promote BFL knowing full well the types of criminals they are? Rapturoso is just one of the many people that do need look more closely at the significant NEGATIVE FINANCIAL impact they are having on this community. This is no joke! People have been hurt financially and these misguided individuals and multiple BFL accounts are continuing to act without any ethics whatsoever.

Give me all the negative trust you like BFL shills there are plenty of media reports out in full view that illustrate what many of have been saying for over a year. BFL is never going to shake their shady history but making contests like this.

Rush of Business for Butterfly Labs

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After selling FPGA miners from September 2011 to 2012, BFL started taking ASIC orders in June 2012. Due to the fact that ASIC was the next-generation machine, everyone wanted it a piece of it. The company was able to sell at least 7,600 orders that were worth $10.2million.

However, a year later, many angry tweets and reddit threads formed because BFL was unable to deliver the machines. To this day, it is still a problem for many people.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
If any actions will be taken against the accounts in the first message, than the same actions should be taken to these accounts. They do the same things.

 I'm no spammer, friend. I resent the implication.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
If you are using trust correctly, this shouldn't even affect you. I believe even people with DefaultTrust are unaffected.
true
My trust list(Trust depth=2):
Inaba
phantastisch
Balthazar
peterepeat
Stunna
Pivo
dwdoc
stahanovec
IIpeBeD_MeDBeD

And I'm green now  Smiley

I really hope that as a result of the contest more people will learn about "Trust settings" and they remove "DefaultTrust".
Your trust list must contain only those people whom you personally trust!

Without looking at Untrusted, you are red to me.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
If you are using trust correctly, this shouldn't even affect you. I believe even people with DefaultTrust are unaffected.
true
My trust list(Trust depth=2):
Inaba
phantastisch
Balthazar
peterepeat
Stunna
Pivo
dwdoc
stahanovec
IIpeBeD_MeDBeD

And I'm green now  Smiley

I really hope that as a result of the contest more people will learn about "Trust settings" and they remove "DefaultTrust".
Your trust list must contain only those people whom you personally trust!
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1007
If you are using trust correctly, this shouldn't even affect you. I believe even people with DefaultTrust are unaffected.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
Why not just disable/delete the cause IE Inaba's accounts ?

What makes you think that would stop anything?

Because if you delete his accounts there is nothing to leave feedback against so of course it would stop it, people following Josh's links would get....



Doubtful. What would probably happen is a slew of new accounts created and the spamming doubled in retaliation.
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Why not just disable/delete the cause IE Inaba's accounts ?

What makes you think that would stop anything?

Because if you delete his accounts there is nothing to leave feedback against so of course it would stop it, people following Josh's links would get....

legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
Spammers as of 07/04/2014:
Bicknellski
LittleD
Xian01
dogie
dropt
jimmothy
tysat NEW!
They copy - paste their trust feedbacks...
If any actions will be taken against the accounts in the first message, than the same actions should be taken to these accounts. They do the same things.

Although practice double standards is alive... This is sad  Sad

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
Why not just disable/delete the cause IE Inaba's accounts ?

What makes you think that would stop anything?
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
Trust spam isn't allowed. If I see anyone posting dozens of fake trust ratings (from one account or many alt accounts), I will delete all of their ratings. But Inaba is hiring multiple people to create these ratings. It is impossible for me to determine whether these ratings are "real" or not, so I'm not going to delete them. (Obviously all negative ratings are very likely to be fake, but I'm not going to guess about this.)

Why not just disable/delete the cause IE Inaba's accounts ?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Spammers as of 06/04/2014:

huj NEW!
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Trust spam isn't allowed. If I see anyone posting dozens of fake trust ratings (from one account or many alt accounts), I will delete all of their ratings. But Inaba is hiring multiple people to create these ratings. It is impossible for me to determine whether these ratings are "real" or not, so I'm not going to delete them. (Obviously all negative ratings are very likely to be fake, but I'm not going to guess about this.)

I agree that it is a little annoying to see a wall of negative ratings, but this is in the "untrusted" section. The way things are set up currently, untrusted ratings can be easily spammed in a number of ways. That's why those ratings are hidden by default.

Thank you for the honesty and we appreciate you and your team are working on this. Clear the "untrusted" section can be abused and used as a means to spam messages of any kind. Good luck I wish you the best on that but you are leaving the door open here if you do nothing to the people causing this problem. In the interim you might want to ban people engaged in propagating this clearly Inaba/BFL/BFL_Josh are the responsible accounts. Time to give them a holiday from the boards. The list of people doing this will be updated so feel free to monitor these accounts for spamming.

administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
Trust spam isn't allowed. If I see anyone posting dozens of fake trust ratings (from one account or many alt accounts), I will delete all of their ratings. But Inaba is hiring multiple people to create these ratings. It is impossible for me to determine whether these ratings are "real" or not, so I'm not going to delete them. (Obviously all negative ratings are very likely to be fake, but I'm not going to guess about this.)

I agree that it is a little annoying to see a wall of negative ratings, but this is in the "untrusted" section. The way things are set up currently, untrusted ratings can be easily spammed in a number of ways. That's why those ratings are hidden by default.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
It amazes me that fsb4000 is still posting and totally disregards the fact that actual people have lost money as a result of BFL. How can you defend BFL knowing in just two cases they owe 2 people almost nearly $80,000 USD or more with lawyers fees.  Sickening. Don't let this guy make a joke of the BFL victims take a stand.
Is Josh imprisoned now?  If not, all your statements about fraud is just FUD.
Why do you think that your opinion is above the law?

People who lost money just bad investors, they need to learn  people with whom they will work  and they should  conclude correctly contract(for example with the terms about non-delivery in time ....)
If they gave the money on any terms because they were greedy,  they've only themselves to blame. The world is not black / white ...
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
It amazes me that fsb4000 is still posting and totally disregards the fact that actual people have lost money as a result of BFL. How can you defend BFL knowing in just two cases they owe 2 people almost nearly $80,000 USD or more with lawyers fees.  Sickening. Don't let this guy make a joke of the BFL victims take a stand.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
Do not whine here. It is just a forum. If you really think that BFL_Josh is criminal, you must apply to a court. While Josh is not condemned, presumption of innocence is working.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
fsb4000

Trust:   -1083: -8 / +3(3)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!


I wonder why this guys trust is now -1083? Could it be he is trying to win vaporware from BFL? Don't let this guy and BFL sock puppets make a mockery of the hundreds of unfortunate BFL customers that got scammed like Martin Meissner who is still looking to recover $62,000 since 2013 or  William Lolli , who won a judgement of over $13,000 but still can't collect because BFL refuses to pay. How can people promote BFL knowing full well the types of criminals they are? fsb4000 is just one of the many people that do need look more closely at the significant NEGATIVE FINANCIAL impact they are having on this community. This is no joke send the right message we don't want the trust system spammed.
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