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Topic: Thoughts regarding "satoshis" post today on the mailing list? - page 2. (Read 5784 times)

legendary
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Use the genesis block address and sign a message.  Otherwise no Satoshi.
hero member
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It's amazingly uninformed for a crypto list, but i guess they are really only about bitcoin after all.
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According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.
Maybe. But he did have a pgp key from 2008:
pub   1024D/5EC948A1 2008-10-30
uid                  Satoshi Nakamoto <[email protected]>
sub   2048g/D6AAA69F 2008-10-30

He should have signed something with it once to make it concrete tho.
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If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.
There's never a 100% guaranteed way to prove identity, especially a pseudonym, but if he posted a message signed with that pgp key, i'd be inclined to believe it was him.

And. as you say, signing a message with his bitcoin private key would work too.
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Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.
hero member
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it seams that someone is utilizing the old "Divide and conquer " technique ?!

It seems the seams are splitting then?
Sorry, i couldn't resist this absurdly useless post. Smiley
legendary
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account was hacked and mail was without his PNG key.

Hoax.
Yes. But that does not change the fact that he posted some really interesting thought. What we are witnessing now: split between core and XT can change everything in the future.
Bitcoin from decentralized entity when majority can vote on changes can become toy of the biggest pools and plaything of most notable developers.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
and he keep this email account all this years to use it atm?

Who knows? His GMX account was broken into. Maybe it was abandoned and picked up by someone else. I don't know how vistomail works. Perhaps it only recently became possible.

This is a prime moment to try and undermine a position that a lot of people are taking. It's the biggest and most emotive debate that's arisen in a long, long time.
legendary
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Ιntergalactic Conciliator
and he keep this email account all this years to use it atm?
legendary
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Welt Am Draht

i am not trolling and this is my opinion. If you think that everyone that has other opinion than you is a troll then you are a facist.

I'm not calling you a troll. I'm saying that a nefarious player's ultimate weapon in Bitcoinland would be to impersonate Satoshi. That's far, far more likely than Satoshi turning up after years of silence. 
legendary
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It has no logic for a hacker to use this email only to take part in a blockchain debate with bitcoin developers.. Tongue come on guys why are you so blind?

You haven't noticed the insane amount of trolling on here? Impersonating Satoshi is the ultimate angle for someone who wants to stir things up for whatever reason.

i am not trolling and this is my opinion. If you think that everyone that has other opinion than you is a troll then you are a facist.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
It has no logic for a hacker to use this email only to take part in a blockchain debate with bitcoin developers.. Tongue come on guys why are you so blind?

You haven't noticed the insane amount of trolling on here? Impersonating Satoshi is the ultimate angle for someone who wants to stir things up for whatever reason.
legendary
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Ιntergalactic Conciliator
I think Satoshi all of this years has never leave this community and i am very sure that he is still here with his alt account.
legendary
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Ιntergalactic Conciliator
It has no logic for a hacker to use this email only to take part in a blockchain debate with bitcoin developers.. Tongue come on guys why are you so blind?
legendary
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#Free market
account was hacked and mail was without his PNG key.

Hoax.
I wonder what are the chances that his PNG key got hacked as well somehow, and stolen. IT would be terrible. Imagine if someone was in control of the key (btw isn't it PGP and not PNG?)

Yes, it is PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) key and not PNG, probably a typo mistake.
legendary
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account was hacked and mail was without his PNG key.

Hoax.
I wonder what are the chances that his PNG key got hacked as well somehow, and stolen. IT would be terrible. Imagine if someone was in control of the key (btw isn't it PGP and not PNG?)
legendary
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#Free market
Satoshi wouldn't actually need to write any words to express a negative opinion about recent developments.

All he'd need to do is dump a few thousand BTC from one of his known wallets. 



Why should he dump his bitcoin? What if he lost his keys? It is not so easy like you think. A msg signed from his PGP key would be enough.
legendary
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Decentralize Everything
Satoshi wouldn't actually need to write any words to express a negative opinion about recent developments.

All he'd need to do is dump a few thousand BTC from one of his known wallets. 
legendary
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Considering the non-malicious nature of the email and the writing style I believe it is Satoshi. If someone stole satoshi's identity they would do something way more extreme than debate blocksize. It's good to be skeptical but also good not to dismiss this sort've thing outright.


For example?

He does sort of have a point. On the flip-side I would say why not discuss it with the Mike Hearn and Gavin offline though ?

What if he is?
I haven't heard much from Gavin or Mike since the alleged satoshi email...
hero member
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Considering the non-malicious nature of the email and the writing style I believe it is Satoshi. If someone stole satoshi's identity they would do something way more extreme than debate blocksize. It's good to be skeptical but also good not to dismiss this sort've thing outright.


For example?

He does sort of have a point. On the flip-side I would say why not discuss it with the Mike Hearn and Gavin offline though ?
legendary
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#Free market
Considering the non-malicious nature of the email and the writing style I believe it is Satoshi. If someone stole satoshi's identity they would do something way more extreme than debate blocksize. It's good to be skeptical but also good not to dismiss this sort've thing outright.


For example?
staff
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Just writing some code
So the hacker just held onto the vistomail account for over a year and decided yesterday after Mike's article on medium.com was the perfect time to execute his attack of a post to the mailing list? Wouldn't the hacker rather try to profit by posting it for sale, or leaking old messages, etc.?

I don't know. When he hacked the gmx.com account the first thing he did was send an email to theymos with the message "Michael, send me some coins or I'll hitman you". Theymos immediately reportred that the account was probably hacked. So he doesn't sound like the smartest hacker to me, he blew that opportunity big time. The recent email looks like it was written by a high school student. Who knows what he's thinking really, perhaps he's trying to troll us.
It is also possible that the vistomail account was terminated and the hacker was able to register the email again like how the gmx hacker worked. The vistomail was also a lesser known account so the hacker may not have known that it existed.
hero member
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So the hacker just held onto the vistomail account for over a year and decided yesterday after Mike's article on medium.com was the perfect time to execute his attack of a post to the mailing list? Wouldn't the hacker rather try to profit by posting it for sale, or leaking old messages, etc.?

I don't know. When he hacked the gmx.com account the first thing he did was send an email to theymos with the message "Michael, send me some coins or I'll hitman you". Theymos immediately reportred that the account was probably hacked. So he doesn't sound like the smartest hacker to me, he blew that opportunity big time. The recent email looks like it was written by a high school student. Who knows what he's thinking really, perhaps he's trying to troll us.
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