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Topic: Thoughts regarding "satoshis" post today on the mailing list? - page 5. (Read 5784 times)

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The email that sent that email has been used by satoshi before in the early days of bitcoin. You can see it in the masking list archives.
legendary
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The fact that he never signed anything with his key is irrelevant. If it is really him, he must be aware by now that we all believe he is MIA and therefore must prove his identity. As people say on the internet, "tits or GTFO", this time is signature or GTFO
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.

thanks for sharing Smiley
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.

Here is a link to a Satoshi Nakamoto PGP Key.
https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/commit/19e0c74df2162d4510db5df9e50d5ac53b38c498

More in-depth look: http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2
legendary
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.

Here is a link to a Satoshi Nakamoto PGP Key.
https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/commit/19e0c74df2162d4510db5df9e50d5ac53b38c498
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.

yep i feel we will never know.
until he votes with his money - but its too risky for him to do that at this point..
hero member
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.

This is true. He never PGP signature to anything. The only way would to sign transactions on his coin stash which he has never done. For all we know this was designed this way so nobody would ever know if the 'real' Satoshi was speaking on behalf an issue like we've seen.
legendary
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Here's an interesting addendum - https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06194.html

According to that Satoshi never added a PGP signature to anything.

If that is the case then there's no real way of ever proving who Satoshi is beyond moving the relevant coins. Even then that would only prove that someone had access to those coins.

Satoshi has reached permanent ghosthood.
legendary
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The more we debate, the more it seams that someone is utilizing the old "Divide and conquer " technique ?!

I am not claiming to be aware of all the ins and outs on both sides of this debate, but from what I have read/understood so far, on this point I can agree.

Seems that both sides are tossing up arguments, oftentimes in the form of FUD. This only serves to leave newcomers and people not up to speed on such things left with the impression of infighting and therefore an overall less trustworthy opinion of the community and Bitcoin as a whole. I think we can already see this reflected in the price, and I wouldn't doubt it continues to drop until this is resolved.
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A while back, Satoshi's other email address [email protected] was confirmed to be compromised. This vistomail email address was not known to be compromised as far as I know, however we should assume it is unless we receive a signed mesage from satoshi stating otherwise.

I agree, if the address was proven to be compromised, without his PGP key nothing should be trusted as a valid founder statement.
I believe he knows better than to post something important with no proof that he is who he claims to be.

Unrelated to his or impersonator's identity, i do think that bitcoin needs to advance and constantly evolve in a way that makes it cutting edge,
but i am not convinced that XT is the answer. However, if the community wants it, it's the way that it will be, i just hope it wont start of a conflict within the community.

The more we debate, the more it seams that someone is utilizing the old "Divide and conquer " technique ?!
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Peter Todd is probably the one posting from it:





Peter is strongly against XT, Hearn and Gavin's proposed solutions. But I don't think he would stoop as low as pretending to be satoshi.

People do strange things, the writing style is consistent with Todd.

This is just a result of what happens when we start to look towards people like Peter Todd, tensions and personalities flare at the risk of losing status within the community.

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Although i'm fairly certain that Satoshi didn't author this, atleast it was composed in a way that it seams plausible that he would author it.

I don't think he's behind it tho, for the sole reason that he was advocating decentralization in every form, so that means from within bitcoin development too.
Let community decide on who they will follow..



This. I don't trust Hearn at all, not one bit. I could be totally wrong but there's something sleazy about him. I don't like him & will continue to stick with Core until/unless it becomes totally necessary to migrate to XT.



Hahha if bitcoiners are just all fools like you , bitcoin would have died long ago.

This is not polictic you dont vote your president candidate, you dont use "trust" by just looking that their face, speech and all the PR stunt.

You look at the code, merits of the idea and you go.
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A while back, Satoshi's other email address [email protected] was confirmed to be compromised. This vistomail email address was not known to be compromised as far as I know, however we should assume it is unless we receive a signed mesage from satoshi stating otherwise.
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Peter Todd is probably the one posting from it:





Peter is strongly against XT, Hearn and Gavin's proposed solutions. But I don't think he would stoop as low as pretending to be satoshi.

Dont think so highly of the turd. When money is involved and you're losing  a "battle" you would do stupid shit like this
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Although i'm fairly certain that Satoshi didn't author this, atleast it was composed in a way that it seams plausible that he would author it.

I don't think he's behind it tho, for the sole reason that he was advocating decentralization in every form, so that means from within bitcoin development too.
Let community decide on who they will follow..



This. I don't trust Hearn at all, not one bit. I could be totally wrong but there's something sleazy about him. I don't like him & will continue to stick with Core until/unless it becomes totally necessary to migrate to XT.

I'm hoping that maybe the Core devs will come to some kind of compromise on a block size increase eventually. I don't want to use XT right now.
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Although i'm fairly certain that Satoshi didn't author this, atleast it was composed in a way that it seams plausible that he would author it.

I don't think he's behind it tho, for the sole reason that he was advocating decentralization in every form, so that means from within bitcoin development too.
Let community decide on who they will follow..

legendary
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Peter Todd is probably the one posting from it:





Peter is strongly against XT, Hearn and Gavin's proposed solutions. But I don't think he would stoop as low as pretending to be satoshi.
hero member
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Peter Todd is probably the one posting from it:



legendary
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Well satoshi has/had the patience and discipline to not spend his 1 million coins.
Something tells me he'll have the same discipline not to intervene in the blocksize debate.
He needs to test to see if this experiment, a decentralized currency system, can work or not.
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This is fake as fuck but on a side note does anybody think that Satoshi will ever return in any way? Maybe if the Core vs XT battle becomes absolutely critical for some kind of authoritative decision? Is Satoshi even still alive?
Many unanswered questions.......
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