Thoughts regarding "satoshis" post today on the mailing list? - page 3.

coinableS

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Quote from: Blazr on August 16, 2015, 11:30:29 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 16, 2015, 10:32:29 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on August 16, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 15, 2015, 02:31:13 PM

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

Is it legit?
Was this the same email address that was hacked a while ago?
If you think it was him/her/they, why didn't he PGP sign this message?

I don't think this is legit, and if he really wanted to give his opinion, don't you think he would anticipate people not believing into this message and because of this, he would have singed this message.

And spare me of that BS how Satoshi never signed his messages, this is way to important and I don't see anybody would expect that community acts on this unsigned message.

I don't think it is him because I don't think he would get himself involved in the blocksize debate.
Bitcoin is an experiment to him and he needs to see if it can work without centralized interference.

What is very interesting though is the email address, do we have any records of his vistomail being hacked or ever used before like this? It seems unlikely that a hacker gained access to his email to only post this and not try any other schemes with access to such an important email address.

Well seeing as his email address [email protected] was hacked, then we haveto assume that the vistomail one was too. Maybe the gmx.com email address was setup as a "recovery email address" for the vistomail account, so when the hacker compromised the gmx account he was also able to compromise the vistomail one via "forgot password".

If Satoshi were to ever return, he would provide significant proof that it is him with signed messages etc.

So the hacker just held onto the vistomail account for over a year and decided yesterday after Mike's article on medium.com was the perfect time to execute his attack of a post to the mailing list? Wouldn't the hacker rather try to profit by posting it for sale, or leaking old messages, etc.?

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Quote from: coinableS on August 16, 2015, 10:32:29 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on August 16, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 15, 2015, 02:31:13 PM

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

Is it legit?
Was this the same email address that was hacked a while ago?
If you think it was him/her/they, why didn't he PGP sign this message?

I don't think this is legit, and if he really wanted to give his opinion, don't you think he would anticipate people not believing into this message and because of this, he would have singed this message.

And spare me of that BS how Satoshi never signed his messages, this is way to important and I don't see anybody would expect that community acts on this unsigned message.

I don't think it is him because I don't think he would get himself involved in the blocksize debate.
Bitcoin is an experiment to him and he needs to see if it can work without centralized interference.

What is very interesting though is the email address, do we have any records of his vistomail being hacked or ever used before like this? It seems unlikely that a hacker gained access to his email to only post this and not try any other schemes with access to such an important email address.

Well seeing as his email address [email protected] was hacked, then we haveto assume that the vistomail one was too. Maybe the gmx.com email address was setup as a "recovery email address" for the vistomail account, so when the hacker compromised the gmx account he was also able to compromise the vistomail one via "forgot password".

If Satoshi were to ever return, he would provide significant proof that it is him with signed messages etc.

coinableS

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Quote from: Mickeyb on August 16, 2015, 08:10:58 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 15, 2015, 02:31:13 PM

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

Is it legit?
Was this the same email address that was hacked a while ago?
If you think it was him/her/they, why didn't he PGP sign this message?

I don't think this is legit, and if he really wanted to give his opinion, don't you think he would anticipate people not believing into this message and because of this, he would have singed this message.

And spare me of that BS how Satoshi never signed his messages, this is way to important and I don't see anybody would expect that community acts on this unsigned message.

I don't think it is him because I don't think he would get himself involved in the blocksize debate.
Bitcoin is an experiment to him and he needs to see if it can work without centralized interference.

What is very interesting though is the email address, do we have any records of his vistomail being hacked or ever used before like this? It seems unlikely that a hacker gained access to his email to only post this and not try any other schemes with access to such an important email address.

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Move On !!!!!!

Quote from: coinableS on August 15, 2015, 02:31:13 PM

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

Is it legit?
Was this the same email address that was hacked a while ago?
If you think it was him/her/they, why didn't he PGP sign this message?

I don't think this is legit, and if he really wanted to give his opinion, don't you think he would anticipate people not believing into this message and because of this, he would have singed this message.

And spare me of that BS how Satoshi never signed his messages, this is way to important and I don't see anybody would expect that community acts on this unsigned message.

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Hoax or not it has a good point in what he write. And for the history satoshi was never sign a message. And here a tech analysis of this email

http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2

Are you still sure that this is fake?

LiteCoinGuy

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In Satoshi I Trust

account was hacked and mail was without his PNG key.

Hoax.

AGD

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Quote from: aso118 on August 16, 2015, 04:27:52 AM

If this email were PGP signed, it would have made front page news on most mainstream newspapers.
As it is, it will die a quiet death after some discussion.

+1

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In math we trust.

Satoshi Nakamoto is supposed to be one of the people holding the alert private key.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alerts
He could prove that he is a bitcoin developer by signing a message.

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Terminated.

Well obviously it isn't real, however whoever the author is he has made quite some decent points.

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Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.

Actually if you really consider it, the post contains only good information regarding Bitcoin. The blocksize debate has caused so much unnecessary drama and fruitless discussions. I would not surprised if a few more 'Satoshis' came up with their opinions. I would also not be surprised if the XT group blamed Core developers for this stunt. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: GenTarkin on August 15, 2015, 08:14:46 PM

If it were real, the way to prove it would be through the poster signing the message w/ one of satoshis mined block addresses in the block chain. Since thats not the case, its fake.

what if he lost his private key and the whole wallet altogether, and now the same wallet belongs to someone else, in this case even if he signs a msg with those addresses, he could be an imposter...

there is no way anymore to know if someone is satoshi or not, at 100%

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If this email were PGP signed, it would have made front page news on most mainstream newspapers.
As it is, it will die a quiet death after some discussion.

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Quote from: Possum577 on August 15, 2015, 09:44:10 PM

It sucks that this project and the ecosystem and economy that has developed as a result is suffering from a potential coup d'etat...it's ironic because the reality of what may be happening to Bitcoin right now is what Bitcoin was started to become the alternative of.

Power corrupts absolutely...how do we limit the power of those that may be trying to take what is not really theirs to have?

knowledge, something that alot users here are lacking. Thus they spread fear about any change and follow a certain group of ppl like a cult. They even wish/hope Satoshi can weight in on this debate.... and as you can see they're exposed to the hoax as shown in the OP.

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Loose lips sink sigs!

It sucks that this project and the ecosystem and economy that has developed as a result is suffering from a potential coup d'etat...it's ironic because the reality of what may be happening to Bitcoin right now is what Bitcoin was started to become the alternative of.

Power corrupts absolutely...how do we limit the power of those that may be trying to take what is not really theirs to have?

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This is 100% bears play. They want to panic investors and force to sell BTC. And they must accumulate BTC for future profit. The letter from Satoshi is not genuine, it is fake.

GenTarkin

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If it were real, the way to prove it would be through the poster signing the message w/ one of satoshis mined block addresses in the block chain. Since thats not the case, its fake.

johnyj

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It's fake, he won't mention his own name together with Obama Cheesy

Anyway that post made some good points

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Bitcoin forking is an excellent opportunity for speculators to create a panic selling. This Satoshi post is a 100% fake Cheesy

meono

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Quote from: HCLivess on August 15, 2015, 07:10:29 PM

It is true, who cares if Satoshi or not

Obviously the author cares enough to fake his identity, to fool idiots like you

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I attempted to access the vistomail.com site to read their policy on old email accounts but it's unavailable at present. It says the provider may have suspended it. Was it available earlier today, and if it wasn't how can anyone have sent an email from it? Has the provider disabled it because of the "Satoshi" email?

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It's horseshit. Yet another Satoshi Nakamoto imposter trying to flex his muscle as a "puppet who is boasting about being the new puppet master". It's probably one of the early adopters, core devs, Gavin Andresen, etc. Try to think about motive. First, it's a little change here, a little change there, soon, they'll start changing the actual protocol. They've become a cancer.

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