He is the kind of boss that no one wants to work under, and that is what is making him say this. The thing is, employees, haven't got thousands of opportunities, but it's just that there is more awareness in the market now, and employees have started realizing that the bosses can't really overburden them for their own benefit and since these big people want power and control and talk about rules, they are basically the ones who don't follow the rules in the first place.
I would never like to work under a person who puts me under pressure and gives me a lot of extra work just because he pays me a salary, and if I raise my voice for myself and demand a change or I'll resign, the boss starts talking shit like this person who is crying like a baby that he and some other useless people are losing control of their employees that they treat like trash.
Topic: Tim Gurner wants Unemployment to increase. Employers have lost their power. - page 2. (Read 509 times)
September 18, 2023, 01:05:31 AM
September 17, 2023, 10:50:57 PM
The fed also wants the unemployment to increase because it’s one of the main causes of inflation. When you got labor shortages you need to pay your workers more. But if you are forced to pay your workers more you need to increase your prices. Hence why inflation goes up.
Another issue is productivity. The workers productivity is lower and hence why it takes longer to do certain jobs. With labor shortages the employers can’t do much. They can’t fire the person because they work slow becuase they will get nothing done.
Another issue is productivity. The workers productivity is lower and hence why it takes longer to do certain jobs. With labor shortages the employers can’t do much. They can’t fire the person because they work slow becuase they will get nothing done.
September 17, 2023, 06:04:38 PM
Well, this is Tim Gurner's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs even if it's so dumb, selfish and foolish like this guy just spat out now. I wish the reverse is the case where he's the employee, maybe he will wish for such again.
Nothing has a monopoly forever, and the market will always drag itself between more jobs and fewer jobs in a sane economy. Everyone is free to jump from one to the other during surplus and even upgrade their terms as either employee or employer dominates in the workforce.
That's just stupid. Imagine if you said this shit when news broke out from 2014-15 about the Nestle CEO saying "water shouldn't be free and everyone should not have inclusive access to potable water", you'd probably feel stupid about it. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion sure, but if it's wrong you better face the consequences especially if you're too proud about it too like this mf Tim Gurney. The market will steer towards whatever will profit the richest the most, it's not about the welfare of the common people anymore. We're just glad that for once at least the common folk and the rest of the planet's richest are in agreement with how beneficial WFH is. Soon as the narrative changes just see how disgusting things could be again. Nothing has a monopoly forever, and the market will always drag itself between more jobs and fewer jobs in a sane economy. Everyone is free to jump from one to the other during surplus and even upgrade their terms as either employee or employer dominates in the workforce.
September 17, 2023, 05:37:45 PM
Not only Tim Gurner, also many country administrations and central bank members want the unemployment rate to increase within the scope of the fight against inflation. This is due to the expectation that if there are more unemployed people, individuals will be forced to restrict their spending and consumption, will decrease making a positive contribution to inflation. Unfortunately, today's economic conditions have reached a full crisis threshold and for this reason many people are losing their jobs every day. Individuals who haven't yet lost their jobs are now left under a workload that exceeds their job description and perform as much as possible due to the fear of losing their job.
Unfortunately, the increase in unemployment rates and the fear of individuals losing their jobs will not end unless the fight against inflation is fully taken under control and many country governments stop increasing the unemployment rate in order to combat inflation.
Unfortunately, the increase in unemployment rates and the fear of individuals losing their jobs will not end unless the fight against inflation is fully taken under control and many country governments stop increasing the unemployment rate in order to combat inflation.
September 17, 2023, 04:53:09 PM
Man is here blaming covid for his employees not working hard when it's probably his fault (and their shareholders) for having bad contracts and salaries (probably). I can't even not blame him since the cost of living is rapidly rising and yet this man probably thinks that he should still offer the same thing that he always has for his workers, or maybe even worse. Who would want to stay then? or at least not try to renegotiate?
Isn't it ridiculous that rich people think they should have a say in everything? I looked at his statement and I can't take someone seriously who says something like "less arrogance in the employment market".
Cheap labor in a nutshell. Man was too used to having his way in dictating what his workers can and can't take or accept so I guess being introduced to reality kind of hit him too hard when it did. I'm just surprised it took covid before it actually did to him (or maybe he just outright ignored it beforehand).
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Does he want to return to the age of slavery? What exactly does he mean when he says these? There is nothing more natural than an employee demanding his rights and wanting to work in a better environment. These words may be true if the employee does not do what is required or requests things that he should not ask for, but it is not right to generalize them.Isn't it ridiculous that rich people think they should have a say in everything? I looked at his statement and I can't take someone seriously who says something like "less arrogance in the employment market".
September 17, 2023, 01:46:15 PM
To be fair the situation is not like this in my nation, so I wouldn't know. There is still unemployment and majority of the workers end up working for minimum wage as well. I do not know the official number but I know that it is well beyond %20+ that earns minimum wage here, which is rare in most other nations. The problem of a nation starts when one boss says "we need more desperate workers", think about it, that is what he says. Saying you want unemployment higher so that people would accept your offer since they are forced to, otherwise they will starve, means that you want workers who are working for you because they have to. I rather have employees that work for me because they prefer working for my company than the competition, maybe that would make it better? He should start thinking about that.
September 17, 2023, 01:12:57 PM
Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
Does he want to return to the age of slavery? What exactly does he mean when he says these? There is nothing more natural than an employee demanding his rights and wanting to work in a better environment. These words may be true if the employee does not do what is required or requests things that he should not ask for, but it is not right to generalize them.
Isn't it ridiculous that rich people think they should have a say in everything? I looked at his statement and I can't take someone seriously who says something like "less arrogance in the employment market".
September 17, 2023, 12:51:28 PM
Governments will not hurt rich people even if they make such calls as what happened here, which again proves money controls everything and the decentralized monetary system such as Bitcoin paves the way for an escape from it.
Bitcoin was escape but it's not an escape anymore, I guess. It's taken over by rich people again, who owns mining farms? Rich people, you can't mine anymore at home because it's unprofitable unless you have a free energy. Who owns centralized exchanges? Rich people. I hope DEXs will get popular. What's ETH going to do? ETH is going to increase the validator stake from 32 to 2048.Becoming rich depends on our efforts but bitcoin gives a way that isn't controlled by the system which is indirectly controlled by existing rich people in one or another way. Bitcoin is not going to make us rich that should be clear in our minds, it we bought it in 2010 then we would be billionaires now but at present still there are ways we can make money and store it in the form of bitcoin to stay away from the controlled system.
September 17, 2023, 07:26:13 AM
Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
It's absurd that people can have such a mentality. These kinds of peeps will not hesitate to okay slave trade if the issue ever came up! Even if they are employees, I feel they should have a right to draw the line when these bosses are trying to overstep. This is a first class selfish opinion of you ask me.This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
He feels employees are earning a lot for little? Gimme a break! I think this guy just has some entitlement issues and this comment self serving he is. Even though his comment has received a lot of backlash from unions and workers and even politicians alike, I doubt he'd feel sorry about it, even if he were to apologize for his insensitivity, it'd be so the media would have more fodder for gossip and nothing else. His kinds just see others as minions who are there to do his bidding and
for him make such comments in the wake of people losing their jobs and the cost of living in Australia is quite high just goes to show how much of a narrow thinker he is.
Stats show that the unemployment rate in Australia for the month of August is 3.7% and yet someone is out there wishing for more unemployment just so the jobless can learn a "lesson '. I mean what other lesson can someone without a job and tons of bills to pay learn?
September 17, 2023, 07:23:16 AM
Well, people like Tim Gurner should be brought back to earth in a hard way.... because his attitude towards human beings suck. Your employees are not supposed to be subservient slaves, like they were in 3500 BC.... because we as humans evolved... and we now appreciate the people that put bread on your table. 
I hate arrogant rich pricks like him, because they think money make them special... and that their money allow them to handle other people like second grade humans.
I hate arrogant rich pricks like him, because they think money make them special... and that their money allow them to handle other people like second grade humans.
September 17, 2023, 07:07:06 AM
That means he has to recruit workers who really want to follow his wishes and they are not allowed to have the desire to make the company more advanced.
This means the company may not get creative ideas from its workers, especially in the marketing department, because they must obey their owners.
It would be a setback for all companies if many companies thought like that.
If he wants unemployment to increase, he must be able to destroy many companies or make large companies go bankrupt so that workers can no longer work and become unemployed.
But I doubt this can happen because we are now in modern times, where internet technology has developed a lot and unemployed workers can look for work via the internet.
This means the company may not get creative ideas from its workers, especially in the marketing department, because they must obey their owners.
It would be a setback for all companies if many companies thought like that.
If he wants unemployment to increase, he must be able to destroy many companies or make large companies go bankrupt so that workers can no longer work and become unemployed.
But I doubt this can happen because we are now in modern times, where internet technology has developed a lot and unemployed workers can look for work via the internet.
September 17, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
This man lives too comfortable life. I think it will be okay if we require by law to force top management to do once every 2 weeks what typical employees do, then they'll understand whether their workers work less or are overworked.This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
Governments will not hurt rich people even if they make such calls as what happened here, which again proves money controls everything and the decentralized monetary system such as Bitcoin paves the way for an escape from it.
Bitcoin was escape but it's not an escape anymore, I guess. It's taken over by rich people again, who owns mining farms? Rich people, you can't mine anymore at home because it's unprofitable unless you have a free energy. Who owns centralized exchanges? Rich people. I hope DEXs will get popular. What's ETH going to do? ETH is going to increase the validator stake from 32 to 2048.In my country, employers mostly treated workers in the private sector very badly while there were a lot of unemployed people, and today, when people have gone to all corners of the world, they import foreign labor that is not even half as good as the local ones. A good worker should be appreciated and paid, but this is something that some employers realize too late, perhaps only when they wonder why profits and production are falling, or when their company fails.
They do that because that's what they learn and hear from people around them or that's what they experienced at past and now want to get pleasure of being on top of things and look at their employees like slaves because once he/she was like that. Employers don't understand that employees well-being increases employer's well-being but they think that they well-being can only be improved if employee's well-being is pressured down.
September 16, 2023, 10:18:01 AM
Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.
https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1701440109948887057?t=uK3d85OKPsJv9sGEVyiqAQ&s=19
The working environment of organisations is evolving over time, the CEO should come to terms with the reality of what is on ground as employees have a better negotiating powers now. Even if this particular suggestion of his comes into fruition, employees will still want to migrate to another company hence the working environment of their present company is toxic.
The CEO's suggestions, even if it's implemented, it will send a negative feedback to the labour market, what if an employee is in a company that has a toxic environment, that employee shouldn't resign or seek for better options somewhere else because there is scarcity of jobs, That's a no no for me. That's more like infringing into people's lives or wanting to strangulate the workforce.
Instead of making it look as if, it has been the fault of employees to seek for better options, the CEO should come up with better options to favour both the workforce and the employers of labour.
September 16, 2023, 10:06:24 AM
Tim Gurner can WANT anything 
But he will have to accept and come to terms with the fact that the world has changed. And yes, COVID was some kind of trigger that changed the labor market. Not everywhere, but in many countries and heads. And what's amazing is that people realized that you can work not "man-hours in the office" but productively and remotely and even multiple jobs at the same time. And it WORKS!
And even by personal example I can say - I have a group of developers and system administrators, and after covid, and then after the terrorist attack of russia on my country - they do not work in the office, they work at home or in places where they relocated, 1 outside of Ukraine, in the EU. And no problems happened ! For people this format of work - additional non-material motivation, for me - reduction of expenses on office maintenance and providing workplaces
Well, you know how people like him think. They want their employees to be loyal to them and follow all of their demands without raising any questions but they fail to be considerate employers. While it is true that there are instances that some employees are requesting for too much, employers like Tim Gurner have the power of the company policy in his back that he can use to discussed and argue with these employee rather than dictating such a statement that is beyond ridiculous. But he will have to accept and come to terms with the fact that the world has changed. And yes, COVID was some kind of trigger that changed the labor market. Not everywhere, but in many countries and heads. And what's amazing is that people realized that you can work not "man-hours in the office" but productively and remotely and even multiple jobs at the same time. And it WORKS!And even by personal example I can say - I have a group of developers and system administrators, and after covid, and then after the terrorist attack of russia on my country - they do not work in the office, they work at home or in places where they relocated, 1 outside of Ukraine, in the EU. And no problems happened ! For people this format of work - additional non-material motivation, for me - reduction of expenses on office maintenance and providing workplaces
September 16, 2023, 05:44:04 AM
This shows how the rich don't want the poor to be free from their oppression. How on earth if you are a good employer will you want your employee to see you as God, when both parties are helping each other. Is it that the employer is paying his employees without them carrying out their duties. Employers love taking their employees for granted just because they are the Boss, you can imagine this selfish proud brat called Tim Guner saying these word out in public, that he wants people to loss their jobs so that employees can beg for retaining their jobs so that he can come out with harsh conditions for the employee. What power does an employer want over an employee rather than to make sure that they are doin their jobs, and any one that is incompetent of the job would be replaced. Also for them to come up with fresh ideas which doesn't need you to be in the office, before you can do all these.
September 16, 2023, 05:31:13 AM
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And looks like the pandemic and war in Ukraine didn't stop rich people from getting richer... in the past years their profits are hitting the roofs, but we "slaves need to work harder". And we need to drive less, apparently, my car produces more pollution than Jeff Bezos's 500 million-dollar yacht.
And looks like the pandemic and war in Ukraine didn't stop rich people from getting richer... in the past years their profits are hitting the roofs, but we "slaves need to work harder". And we need to drive less, apparently, my car produces more pollution than Jeff Bezos's 500 million-dollar yacht.
The rich become even richer precisely during economic crises and wars, because then they can manipulate the market even more and convince people to work more for less and that they do everything in their power to make us better off. When you already mentioned Comrade Bezos and his empire, I remember how during the pandemic he even asked for help/donations to pay his workers, the same ones who tell stories every day about what it's like to work for him.
These are the most ordinary hypocrites who will publicly call out people that they need to allocate their money better and reduce their carbon footprint, while at the same time their planes, yachts and super cars together with their companies are destroying the environment at an incredible speed - all for profit, of course.
September 16, 2023, 03:18:33 AM
And looks like the pandemic and war in Ukraine didn't stop rich people from getting richer... in the past years their profits are hitting the roofs, but we "slaves need to work harder". And we need to drive less, apparently, my car produces more pollution than Jeff Bezos's 500 million-dollar yacht.
That's the sad reality, the thing is if we want to complaint about wage increment, our boss will say our wage is already good enough and if we keep insist it, they can easily fired us and replace with other people who willing to get paid less as long as they can work.We can't do much, the only possible thing to quit from rat race is become a freelancer that give opportunity to earn big amount of money from developed countries.
September 16, 2023, 03:13:18 AM
Isn't the unemployment rate already too high in most parts of the world, and besides if unemployment rates raises then this will force the skilled labour to migrate to places where they are needed forcing employers to pay more for those that remain as they will have the bargaining chip once again as skilled personnel.
Besides, Isn't this been to selfish of Tim Gurner to want so much power over employees, if he wants this them let him pay them well and he will get what he wants.
Besides, Isn't this been to selfish of Tim Gurner to want so much power over employees, if he wants this them let him pay them well and he will get what he wants.
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Inflation: 6%
Wage increases: 3.7%
"Now work harder, slaves"
Modern day slavery at its best...Wage increases: 3.7%
"Now work harder, slaves"
September 16, 2023, 03:02:10 AM
The first comment under the video explains everything. I guess the numbers are different, in some countries this ratio is even worse:
And looks like the pandemic and war in Ukraine didn't stop rich people from getting richer... in the past years their profits are hitting the roofs, but we "slaves need to work harder". And we need to drive less, apparently, my car produces more pollution than Jeff Bezos's 500 million-dollar yacht.
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Inflation: 6%
Wage increases: 3.7%
"Now work harder, slaves"
Wage increases: 3.7%
"Now work harder, slaves"
And looks like the pandemic and war in Ukraine didn't stop rich people from getting richer... in the past years their profits are hitting the roofs, but we "slaves need to work harder". And we need to drive less, apparently, my car produces more pollution than Jeff Bezos's 500 million-dollar yacht.
September 16, 2023, 02:46:44 AM
With the adoption of work from home setup during the height of the pandemic, this has also retrieved the freedom of many employees to be with their families while working and putting food on their tables. While it's true that many of them have been demanding because it's hard to go back to the setup that they used to be in an office setup. But this is easy, the policies of the companies should still be followed by employees. If they don't want to RTO then they're free to resign if their demands can't be provided by the company. But if they can be given that opportunity to continue working at home then it is a blessing. Anyway, it's always equal, whether WFH or office setup having a job is the true blessing. On the other hand, it's just hard to get back on the setup that they've been used to be comfortable and that's the WFH setup. With this Gurner's point of view, this is something he shouldn't wish for. The world is struggling and many have been laid offs and it's not going to stop everywhere. He should just give an opinion about employees helping their companies through returning-to-office if that's the setup he wants most employers wanna be.
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