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Topic: Timelord2067 is a malicious liar and a deranged troll (Read 652 times)

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IMO he already had enough people ~ him and remove him from DT, there is really no reason for the whole forum to ~ him. He had his ego deflated, now he has to decide whether he wants to reconsider his ways and change or if he wants to continue and face more exclusions. Just my opinion, but if we exile someone we are just taking more people away from bitcoin. He is not a bounty hunter here only for the money.
Nobody is going to exile him anywhere, he is still active in forum and he is doing his thing.
I don't expect to agree with everyone here, but if one member have issues with many other members than we have a repeating pattern, and people should be aware of that.
Maybe some people have no intention to change and they like their eco chamber.

Anyway, I can understand how 1miau got into this, and how annoying that sort of deluded trollshittery can be.
Most long term members know the history of T2067 and profile feedback is always there to remind them about it Wink

Maybe he starts realizing that his current approach to DT isn't appreciated by the community. Most likely, it's my personal wishful thinking but even trolls can improve.  Smiley
I don't know about him but I left DT1 myself and cleaned my list because I think it needs serious reform.
Maybe I will return once I see someone actually doing something new to improve things, but until then I am staying out of that theater show  Cool


 
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Well, now I know better. I won't reply to any PM from him next time and report it as unsolicited PM spam right away.  Smiley

Different people have different opinions. If you are here long enough, sooner or later you'll come across someone whose opinion differs from yours, or vice versa. And no matter how solid your arguments are, no matter how right you may be about a particular issue, if the person you're arguing with is dead set in his/her opinion and won't budge from that position, you'll never change his mind.

What to do in such a case? The same thing you would do in real life, if you were in a similar situation. Walk away, or if that's not possible, just don't engage them after they've made their point. You're not going to change their mind by arguing with them (or by calling them names), so there's no point in doing so.




Sometimes people tend to be nice, even on this forum, weird, I know Smiley

They say you have to look a man in the eye to know if he's telling the truth. Well, that's a bit tricky in the online community. So, even when people seem nice, keep your guard up and watch out for their hidden motives.  Wink

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Just to clarify, this is meant as a general (slightly sarcastic) perspective and not as a personal reflection on any specific person.
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He is this kind of person, he waits to see something from you just to use it against you! What they call such a person in english?
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I really don't understand why you spend so much time communicating with him with messages, when there is report and ignore options available.
Back then, I haven't encountered any issues with him and I didn't want to be harsh to him replying something like "I don't want to answer your PM spam" / "what are you bothering me with it, just ask it in Reputation, no need to spam my inbox".
Or leaving his PM's completely unanswered.

In general, I'm always trying to be nice to everyone, who's sending me PM's as long as it's not an outright troll.
I've even answered numerous shitposters, who sent me PM's and asked me to remove my negative trust that they've received due to signature campaign related abuses. And I'm trying to stay friendly for most of the time.
So, I just want to be a nice person and address all legitimate PM's even sometimes these PM's are just unnecessary. Being friendly is always recommended.

Well, now I know better. I won't reply to any PM from him next time and report it as unsolicited PM spam right away.  Smiley



IMO he already had enough people ~ him and remove him from DT, there is really no reason for the whole forum to ~ him.
Maybe he starts realizing that his current approach to DT isn't appreciated by the community. Most likely, it's my personal wishful thinking but even trolls can improve.  Smiley
I'm sure that if he's apologizing for what he did, maybe some DT members will remove him from his distrust list.  
But that's not up to me to decide. After what he has done recently, he truly deserves to get a ton of more distrusts and if he continues, he might get even more.



I will quote here 1miau's post from the other topic:

~Timelord2067
and
~Timelord2o67

This is important, as the troll has 2 accounts so, in case someone adds him to his distrust list with one account, make sure the other account is distrusted as well.
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Important point.  Smiley



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I really don't understand why you spend so much time communicating with him with messages, when there is report and ignore options available.

Sometimes people tend to be nice, even on this forum, weird, I know Smiley
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Looks like we've encountered the same issue.  Cheesy
And your reply was a little bit faster. ^^
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I really don't understand why you spend so much time communicating with him with messages, when there is report and ignore options available.

Sometimes people tend to be nice, even on this forum, weird, I know Smiley

I've had a similar situation with Timelord20something. We communicated via PM in good faith (I thought) and then Timelord didn't like that I didn't respond in his expected timeline. Ok, shit happens, misunderstanding, etc. But Timelord exaggerated the whole thing as if it was a breach of contract or something, sent nonsensical trust feedback, trolled the threads I was posting in, etc.

Anyway, I can understand how 1miau got into this, and how annoying that sort of deluded trollshittery can be.
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I really don't understand why you spend so much time communicating with him with messages, when there is report and ignore options available.

Last I checked, he was off DT. He was removed at the beginning of June. If you want to ~ him that's fine, but do you really need to pour more salt into the wound?
I am not sure who poured salt into wound in this case, but 1miau is not the first member who noticed weird behavior from him.
Maybe it would be better for one of them to be smarter and stop PM conversation early before things escalated more, but it's to late now.
Voting results are somehow interesting...




IMO he already had enough people ~ him and remove him from DT, there is really no reason for the whole forum to ~ him. He had his ego deflated, now he has to decide whether he wants to reconsider his ways and change or if he wants to continue and face more exclusions. Just my opinion, but if we exile someone we are just taking more people away from bitcoin. He is not a bounty hunter here only for the money.
legendary
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I really don't understand why you spend so much time communicating with him with messages, when there is report and ignore options available.

Last I checked, he was off DT. He was removed at the beginning of June. If you want to ~ him that's fine, but do you really need to pour more salt into the wound?
I am not sure who poured salt into wound in this case, but 1miau is not the first member who noticed weird behavior from him.
Maybe it would be better for one of them to be smarter and stop PM conversation early before things escalated more, but it's to late now.
Voting results are somehow interesting...



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I will quote here 1miau's post from the other topic:

~Timelord2067
and
~Timelord2o67

This is important, as the troll has 2 accounts so, in case someone adds him to his distrust list with one account, make sure the other account is distrusted as well.



And this despite the fact that at that time we communicated more or less well with him.
Dear icopress, many thanks for sharing your insigths on the issue.
It's really surpsrising to see that Timelord2067's reaction to that incident has many similarities to the issue mentioned in my OP.
First, we didn't had any issues with Timelord2067.

The same thing happened between the troll and me, in the past. For those not knowing where the problems between us started, I'll quote myself below:

- Timelord2067 started distrusting nullius 5 weeks ago, according to loyce.club; at the same time interval, nullius started distrusting Timelord2067 as well
- nullius has a connection with me (he merited some of my posts; I translated some of his precious work in Romanian; we talked to each other in a friendly / respectful manner in various topics etc.)
- Timelord2067 and I never had any conflict; the only time when we interacted was in a friendly manner, in one of my topics, when he also merited me
- Timelord2067 becomes aware of the connection between me an nullius, seeing we respectfully talk to each other (also in the above mentioned topic)

Result: Timelord2067 starts distrusting me two weeks ago. I tried to PM him, telling him that without trying to change his opinion (which I was not), I only kindly ask him to explain his decision. Why? Of course, he didn't answer, as he was embarrassed (most likely) to admit that his judgement
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And this despite the fact that at that time we communicated more or less well with him. The irony is that he left the feedback, he soon deleted, but did not deign to admit his mistake.
Dear icopress, many thanks for sharing your insigths on the issue.
It's really surpsrising to see that Timelord2067's reaction to that incident has many similarities to the issue mentioned in my OP.
First, we didn't had any issues with Timelord2067.
Then, Timelord2067 does some questionable things (leaving unjustified feedback on webtricks account) / (PMing me with unsolicited PMs), then, our reaction to Timelord2067's action (your (rightful) opposition to Timelord2067's trust on webtricks) / (my PMs back to Timelord2067) where he obviously can't deal with, gets aggressive and doubles down on it. 
And in the end, Timelord2067 doesn't even admit any mistakes when getting exposed.  Roll Eyes
It's so similar.

I'm really sorry that he bothered you as well but after all we have learnt our lesson that Timelord2067's judgement is very flawed.
Many thanks again for sharing your insights here.
And yes, from an objective point of view, you did absolutely the right thing by opposing Timelord2067's negative trust left on webtricks account.  Smiley



I've never known him to be a pervert, and I'm not clicking on any twitter link.  Where did all that "prude police" stuff come from in the thread that you linked to, OP?
At this point, I don't know where he made it up first.
It might be in one of those PM's where he asked me about his trust issues and if there's a "perv police" on Bitcointalk.
But it might be already earlier as Timelord2067 was called out by GazetaBitcoin for this.
Obviously, he got butthurt, when he got exposed for his perv activities on Twitter, where he over-reacted as well. He's also involved in a useles shitcoin, called Sexcoin and maybe he didn't want to comment on the fact, that this coin is a useless shitcoin and he's promoting such shady stuff.
I call this sort of coins "special purpose coins".

These "special purpose shitcoins" serve no purpose other than being used (or not being used because it's really somehow useless) for a special (more like trivial) purpose). Like there are coins for travelling, the music industry, the farming industry, the car industry, the lifestyle industry and other "special purpose" coins (which is just a stupid excuse to launch an own coin, where devs are in control of the coin and often have a big chunk of pre-mined coins.  Roll Eyes).
These are useless shit coins have no additional usefulness compared to existing coins and Sexcoin is not even listed on Coinmarketcap...  Roll Eyes
It's so ridiculous.

In the end, the only ones making money from such shady shitcoins are the devs and everyone will be left with worthless bags of shit coins...
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I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not.
Honest?  Probably.  I don't know if his objectivity is the problem so much as his judgement, which has often been way off-base.  I've always seen him as a kind of Rain Man-type of personality when it comes to linking alt accounts but also a personality with not a small amount of pareidolia present--and that's what's made him become almost a buffoon over the years in the eyes of many members.

I've never known him to be a pervert, and I'm not clicking on any twitter link.  Where did all that "prude police" stuff come from in the thread that you linked to, OP?  I looked through and didn't see where he was coming from with that.  Anyway, I've always found him to be fairly harmless, kind of autistic, but often wrong when slinging accusations.  Since those accusations don't carry a lot of weight anyway, I'd just let them slide off you, OP.  You're letting him get under your skin, I think.
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I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a very long time, until I couldn't watch it anymore and excluded him.
He just takes things far too personal somehow, and (still) uses the feedback system as his personal diary.
Absolutely spot on. Timelord's behavior is usually of two types.

1. Cowardly little girl

When one forum member left me negative feedback because of a personal vendetta, Timelord agreed that this was a clear abuse of feedback. At the same time, he simply replied to me that he did not plan to use the tilde against him because of his feelings about his status (I think it was about the fact that the user would probably make a mutual exclusion and his DT position would become even worse).

2. Infantile behavior

Once upon a time, Timelord left negative feedback to Webtricks (I don’t remember exactly, but it was some kind of absurd reason). This confused me a little... since I knew Webtricks. For this reason, I left him a neutral and positive counter-feedback that accurately underlined the level of reliability of this person.

And what do you think?

A few hours later, Timelord blacklisted me (DM), used a tilde against me, and wrote me a couple more not-so-pleasant phrases. And this despite the fact that at that time we communicated more or less well with him. The irony is that he left the feedback, he soon deleted, but did not deign to admit his mistake.


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Add ⁓Timelord2067 to your trust list

I salute the initiative of 1miau, which doubles down the thoughts I expressed with multiple occasions. This troll must be taken out from DT1 completely. At the moment he has 15 exclusion yet there are still 9 DT1 users including him in their Trust lists. However, I believe that, in time, more and more will see the miserable character of this imbecile and other will exclude him as well, no matter of they are part of DT or not.

This should have happened already a long time ago but still, it's okay if it happened now and not back then.

For years now, all the baboon does is spreading lies, derailing threads, making false accusations, attacking users with low ranks and so on and so forth. He looks like a village idiot trying to bully all people which are smaller than him. Sadly, for a while, he managed to do it. But his days are over. He may continue to live as a baboon inside the mental institution where he's kept for most of the time, or wherever else he wants to, but not here!
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He marked my account while I disclosed  it in public
That's more useful from users who are on DT. It's also something you can do by yourself: leave neutral feedback back and forth.

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but I believe since his godfather did it to him he started taking it as a lifestyle
LoyceV   2019-12-23   Reference   Timelord2o67 is Timelord2067's alt account
That's to prevent people from thinking Timelord2o67 is an imposter.
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He marked my account while I disclosed  it in public but I believe since his godfather did it to him he started taking it as a lifestyle
LoyceV   2019-12-23   Reference   Timelord2o67 is Timelord2067's alt account
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I can't vote in your poll because neither option is applicable, in my opinion.  I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not.  And clearly I believe the second option is objectively wrong.
I'm always trying to give someone the benefit of doubt but it's really hard to do this for Timelord2067.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a very long time, until I couldn't watch it anymore and excluded him. He just takes things far too personal somehow, and (still) uses the feedback system as his personal diary.
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Jolly? I think I've heard that name before. hmm
~cut~
Because I'm a honest person, I've answered his reply 3 hours later: June 06, 2023, 09:10:12 PM
~cut~
Because I'm a honest person, I've replied to him on June 09, 2023, 09:00:31 PM answering his question.
~cut~
Timelord2067 is an untrustworthy and a disgusting scumbag, a malicious liar and he's deliberately spreading wrong accusations.

I just found out that by replying to the PM then it is an honest person... Cheesy

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Timelord2067 is an untrustworthy and a disgusting scumbag, a malicious liar and he's deliberately spreading wrong accusations. 
These are like pearls of wisdom that I rarely read anywhere

I can't vote in your poll because neither option is applicable, in my opinion.  I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not.  And clearly I believe the second option is objectively wrong. 

I do agree that he sees "ghosts" sometimes, or more descriptively, tenuous connections with little evidence to back them up.  I believe his heart is the right place and he does care about this forum, however.

For some reason, I often agree with what you say


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Last I checked, he was off DT. He was removed at the beginning of June. If you want to ~ him that's fine, but do you really need to pour more salt into the wound?
Many thanks for the information and I'm already aware of it but it's always helpful to have more people ~ him because quite some members still have him on his trust list.
And no, I don't want to cause any upheaval but he started to littler my topic in Meta with wrong accusations and my topic over there is not meant for off-topic spam, so I've created this one here in reputation and also included this new topic as reference link.
It's quite sad that he started to littler my topic in Meta with off-topic...  Roll Eyes



I can't vote in your poll because neither option is applicable, in my opinion.  I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not.  And clearly I believe the second option is objectively wrong.  
I'm always trying to give someone the benefit of doubt but it's really hard to do this for Timelord2067. The issue here for example is deliberate wrongdoing by Timelord2067, where other DT members explained him his fallacies several times. Still, he didn't even try to listen. Finally, he locked his topic, not even considering to listen.
Same dishonest strategy how he tried to spread lies against me, that I would have sent him "spam PM's", while he started to PM me twice (June 6 and June 9...)
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I can't vote in your poll because neither option is applicable, in my opinion.  I think he's honest, but not necessarily objective enough to be on DT, and last I checked he is not.  And clearly I believe the second option is objectively wrong.  

I do agree that he sees "ghosts" sometimes, or more descriptively, tenuous connections with little evidence to back them up.  I believe his heart is the right place and he does care about this forum, however.
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Add ⁓Timelord2067 to your trust list
Many users who are not familiar with how trust list works will miss the tilde before the name and be confused that you are suggesting they add the user to their trust list.
Specifying that they will be excluding the user from their trustlist by adding (~) will make it clearer.
Probably some uneducated people will get it wrong but everyone who doesn't know what adding a (⁓) to a DT list entry will do, is most likely better advised to re-read how DT works before adding any trust list entries...
However, I've edited my post to specify that part and I've also added LoyceV's guide:


Conclusion:

Add

Code:
⁓Timelord2067


to your trust list to distrust Timelord2067 and remove him from DT.



Should be better now, especially by having the code. Tilde (⁓) is always difficult to get...
Last I checked, he was off DT. He was removed at the beginning of June. If you want to ~ him that's fine, but do you really need to pour more salt into the wound?
legendary
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Add ⁓Timelord2067 to your trust list
Many users who are not familiar with how trust list works will miss the tilde before the name and be confused that you are suggesting they add the user to their trust list.
Specifying that they will be excluding the user from their trustlist by adding (~) will make it clearer.
Probably some uneducated people will get it wrong but everyone who doesn't know what adding a (⁓) to a DT list entry will do, is most likely better advised to re-read how DT works before adding any trust list entries...
However, I've edited my post to specify that part and I've also added LoyceV's guide:


Conclusion:

Add

Code:
⁓Timelord2067


to your trust list to distrust Timelord2067 and remove him from DT.



Should be better now, especially by having the code. Tilde (⁓) is always difficult to get...
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