Topic: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler - page 4. (Read 668 times)

and if all casino online come to take us all our privacy ? then we must leave online playing and just go in Local gambling houses or casino houses that obviously we will play in live appearance and there is no need of hiding .
but i doubt that government will implement this because the casino online will soon all close because of no players interested in dealing with such policies .

Casinos won't implement such features and also how they can scale the responsibility of a person from their loss, and someone maybe in loss on a casino on the contrary they made huge money on another casino so in net they are in profits then how come this will work cause its negative for both the parties.

I disagree. Even no one thought 30 years ago that we can play casino at our home, it's always possible to happened. It's different to the concern of yours about certificate since it now involved too much privacy concerns. As I said, I'm sure one thing that will looked at here is the user's financial capability and that means casinos needs to verify where our funds came from.

It will result for some users leaving that casino. I do fine with KYC but if financial documents will be required, that's a total bullshit requirements.

And gambling owners won't allow that to happen as it's just removing one of their loyal customers.

The thing here is, we don't even know what tier can be considered a responsible gambler. There are gamblers who are losing big money but are still responsible for their life outside of gambling. What could be the factors to call a gambler responsible?

If that certificate thing will really implement, I'm sure casinos will just grant is easy without searching deeply into the gambler's status.

Sounds interesting, but I honestly do not think we will ever get to such a stage, simply because, on my own personal opinion, I do see this as important.
First, imagine going to court to obtain such a document, or should I say a warrant, all because you wanna gamble, makes no sense to me sincerely, this will simply means giving the government more power than the already have..

And again, this can not stop gamblers from gambling irresponsibly if they want to, or if they don't watch it, so have to submit such a certificate before gambling is totally of no use, it will also affect casinos negatively because they will definitely lose alot of customers including myself, I will stop gambling completely any day such a certificate becomes mandatory to submit before I am allowed to gamble.

actually in the TOS or privacy policy, the majority of gambling sites have written about it but many players don't want to read it, if you don't want to lose money then don't gamble. if you lose because you don't want to stop playing, then don't blame the casino where you are gambling and say they have cheated you. All gamblers should be aware that what they do while in an online or offline casino is their own responsibility.

Unless Curacao, Costa Rica, and other governments of big offshore casino paradises implement it, I don't think it will ever concern many crypto casinos, because they won't impose this kind of requirement to their customers on their own. They are escaping national regulation thanks to the use of cryptocurrencies, they won't take decisions hurting their business just to appear responsible.

Who will issue the certificate? Is the gambler willing to apply for such certificate just to prove that he is not addict in gambling? I doubt on this one because the government doesn’t care at all as they are more concern about the casinos and their possible profit from then instead of helping those addict gamblers. Casinos itself will also not issue such certificate because they don’t want to lose that gambler and if they became addict, the casinos will still get benefit on that.

I don't think any form of certification is necessary for identification or whatsoever, on gamblers.... I mean, casino already struggled to get certifications for 'em peeps on publicity etc ...why should the gamblers do the same too?
Secondly, that's not gonna play any sub-conscious role and it'll totally be against this natural phenomenon, Which is LIBERTY. Thirdly, the Govt can't control people's funds more than what they've controlled already; is addiction on a particular stuff supposed to be a public affair? Anyone could handle himself and make his MuCus even more sticky if he wants....non of ya business!

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Why are you even thinking of such things that will cause an inconvenience with the gamblers? That's totally unnecessary.
The government receives enough tax from gambling businesses like casinos, why would you think they will impose a paperwork that would potentially eliminate clients because of such inconvenience.
A paperwork/certificate won't for sure make you a responsible gambler. This would only spark another corruption within the government premise that handles these certificates.

this question of addiction to gambling is something that in many countries the governments take very seriously, there are countries where the government restricts the maximum amount that people can use from their credit cards in casinos, so it would not surprise me that someone years let's see people addicted with cards that show that they have problems with addiction and have to show it at the casino so that the casino guys don't let you play with a lot of money and also don't allow you to play for many hours, I would not criticize this attitude of the government because in my opinion, addiction is something very serious and serious, people might even think that addiction is something light, something that heals quickly

but reality shows that hardly anyone addicted manages to be 100% cured of the addiction to the point of returning to playing normally without getting out of control, maybe it would even be the case to put a certificate for any addicted person who has already left a hospital, the certificate would be to show that in the past the person was addicted but is already cured but should not be accepted in gambling, of course this would be a big problem for the person to get a job, especially in this society that laughs at people when they have an addiction, people treat addicts badly

Being responsible isnt something that you could guarantee even if you do able to get that certificate.Just like on what others been saying on which you cant guarantee that you wouldnt really be that getting

addicted on the time that you do play.This is why there's no way that we could be able to stop on someone to lose because its an inevitable thing.This is why the most important thing or characteristic for a
player or a gambler to have is to accept those losses and never ever make yourself that spend on what you can afford to lose. Dont go beyond borders or limits because this is where
usually people do fall because they do become that desperated.

Well, actually, a certificate from a psychiatrist won't hurt.) 

And to get certified, there has to be a test to be a responsible gambler, which I think will discourage gamblers who have a wide variety of games, and I'm sure many gamblers disagree. Likewise with casinos, because it will reduce their income.
and besides, in this day and age anything can be forged, including the creation of any certificate. Gambling has been around for a long time and to get rid of it or in any way will not be effective.

in addition, if the casino or bookie starts requiring this doc from their players - it means they are licensed also as definitely, you need to put your real name on the doc unless they will accept your username that you can sign off. and that's not gonna happen.
this requirement is a possibility for a licensed gambling site. but doubt if a non-licensed casino will ask for this. but so far, i am not seeing this requirement to be implemented in the next years to come. being a responsible gambler is also very subjective. so this is also hard to assess for the casino. they won't do such task. the task is on the gambler himself, how he will look after for himself.

Being a responsible gambler won't manifest by just signing a deal or agreement or by just showing a certificate. These can be faked and it's not the responsibility of the casino to do that. And for every gambler, each their own must be responsible of their own actions.

Some government won't think of this because they benefit from the taxes that they collect from the casinos and some even are relying into this business as their main source of country's income.

They may set some boundaries and reminders but, they cannot hold the minds of every gambler and they'll just obliged to such policies just for them to keep gambling even if they're irresponsible gamblers.

I do not see this as a good idea. If anything its just adding on to the trade of security for freedom. I do not want to live in China, therefore I would rather take the risks but at least not be controlled like an animal.

From the perspective of the government, their main objective is to gain as much money from casino taxes as they can. As far as the gamblers go, they really do not care about who is healthy and who's life has been ruined. Government is like a giant business. And giant businesses do not care about their workers.

If the gamblers want to remain healthy and wealthy, they need to make sure to impose upon the government themselves, or better yet, they need to protect themselves individually.

Your idea might be good if it was changed a bit: there should be KYC licenses issued by the government so that we do not have to hand over our personal documents to each and every casino.

There's nothing beyond possibility in gambling, if today we can have an online crypto casino then tomorrow there might be something new to come up whereby gamblers will be required a certification but on a real sense this may also nit be possible for now since most of the gamblers now want a zero tolerance to kyc casinos, so requesting for certification in gambling may also be a frustration in some cases.

If that were the case, maybe I would stop gambling at that casino and look for more casinos that didn't require users to upload a responsible gambler's certificate. Not all countries will issue a responsible gambler certificate. They may wonder what the certificate is for and they may investigate your bank account to find out or trace the use of your money from your bank account.

It's good and makes sense but it can't be applied to all users because of limitations within the government itself. But whatever it is, it looks like the government will work on it so they can monitor its citizens who often play gambling.

What about the state / government that prohibits the gambling industry, but gambling sites can still be accessed and played by gambling addicts.
Are they going to issue the certificate……! Maybe not, meaning they are supporting the gambling industry all the same.

I think this reason, it shouldn't be, is hinted at for gambling addicts to have a certificate.

My understanding is that whatever the government is doing for its citizens to prevent/reduce things like you said, certificates are not a reason or an obstacle for addicts to stop their gambling activities.
We have and read of countries that prohibit gambling for their citizens, with super strict laws and rules, including gambling websites, but still, those who are addicted hide and carry out their gambling activities, meaning: a certificate is not a guarantee for bettors to lose their wealth and engage in gambling activities.

Of course, it's okay for online casinos to ask for certificates from visitors who want to bet in their gambling, but certificates are not the reason to solve all problems for gambling addicts, rehabilitation is the final solution.