Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler - page 6.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 09, 2023, 08:41:57 PM

Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.

That is where exactly casinos will end, they will just stop their operation seeing gamblers will face a difficult time before they can play and gamble. Though it’s hard for gamblers, but I think the situation will be more worst on the part of gambling casinos as they can never maximize their profits since gamblers are highly restricted to gamble. And probably, the government will also not like the idea as they can never make good commission from gambling businesses.

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I don't think, casino are gonna to be put any kind of document like this on their term & service.

Even the simple one like "ID", they still not asking you at the time you are trying to entering CASINO. People are freely to entering casino without showing the ID, most the time they ask you at the time withdraw.

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I doubt it. Although we are often reminded to gamble responsibly, the truth is that gambling and responsibility do not really go together.

If the government really wants to protect its people from the possible repercussions of gambling, they might as well just ban gambling outright. I am a gambler myself but if there is a law that prohibits gambling entirely, I guess I will readily support it. Whatever amount of fun and money that gambling has given to some of its players, they cannot equal the losses and misery of the rest of the gamblers. However significant the amount of taxes paid by gambling businesses, they cannot equal the social ills gambling has caused. The employment that gambling businesses generate cannot compensate for the big number of gamblers who have either left or got kicked out of their jobs.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 10, 2023, 02:34:18 AM

You have a point mate. As long as you're living in a democratic country, you have all the right what to do in your life as long as its not against the government rules. You can drink, smoke, or gamble all you want, but make sure you are responsible of its consequences. And with regards to this type of certificate, I guess this is only possible in countries with small population as the government can control every actions of their citizens. Other than that, majority of the countries cannot control the activities of every citizen, though they can make restrictions.

I will prefer casinos to get to a point that freedom will not be lost but gamblers on all casinos can be known through maybe decentralized casino identity which a gambler that go for a self exclusion on one casino will not be able to register or login to play in other casinos, but this world is too large and this remain impossible. But about what you said, their should be freedom is the truth, but people should be who should first go for it and it should be effective, not that government should be the one making it mandatory.

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Yeah, I agree with the majority here, it might not even work if you think about it,

- every gambler should be responsible enough, there's no way that a government will have control over them
- casinos are business, so they might opposed this one to the T if the government will go after this kind of certificate
- for sure gamblers as well will cry over this proposal

And if ever this is implement, there will still be individuals who or can't control their gambling emotions.

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Quote from: rdluffy on April 09, 2023, 07:49:37 PM

My opinion is that it is practically impossible to happen in free countries.
Even if a person is "addicted", the individual is free to make the choice to gamble or not. It is not an activity where the company forces the person to gamble.
Just make the comparison with addictions to drink and cigarettes, nobody is forbidden to buy or consume.
There can be discouraging actions, but a certificate like this I find extremely difficult.

Controlling countries can easily make gambling illegal or not allow the individual.
I believe that most gambling sites contain a readme with the information that everyone is responsible for the bets and the money.

In your opinion, who would issue this certificate? Who would have the right to decide whether or not the individual can bet?

You have a point mate. As long as you're living in a democratic country, you have all the right what to do in your life as long as its not against the government rules. You can drink, smoke, or gamble all you want, but make sure you are responsible of its consequences. And with regards to this type of certificate, I guess this is only possible in countries with small population as the government can control every actions of their citizens. Other than that, majority of the countries cannot control the activities of every citizen, though they can make restrictions.

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Its never been implemented before even on offline casinos so I doubt if they are going to start doing that, responsible casinos already have it in their TOS that their users should play with money that they can afford to lose and they should be responsible, they can always limit from betting if they think that the player is putting too much of everything but that casino will receive complaints about their action, the casino tends to please their players first then the authorities because they are the one putting money and continuously flowing, the life of the casino is money coming in, and they will not just stop it.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 09, 2023, 07:42:02 PM

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

What the government will work more towards is how they can maximize taxes in gambling, they do not care if you win or lose. The gambling sites have some ways like articles that gamblers can read for not to be addicted, but how many gamblers are reading that, also that the gambling sites prefer people to lose so that they can have money. So it is gamblers that should be wise, not addicted, and they should be gambling in a responsible way than thinking that the government are ready to restrict gamblers in a way no freedom again.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 09, 2023, 07:42:02 PM

Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

I don't think that this is a good idea though for casinos, I mean everyone is welcome to play, not unless you are underage or you are a suspicious person. It's business and I don't see them restricting anyone from entering or playing, whether online or offline casinos.

Quote from: Saisher on April 09, 2023, 07:42:02 PM

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

If government wanted to protect everyone from gambling, then they should ban it simple as that.

But as you can see there are countries around the world that has a lot of casinos, meaning they support it at some point because they might have been getting benefits from casinos, specially during the pandemic wherein gambling was one source of income from government.

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a license to gamble? sure, there might be a possibility(since we don't really know whether it'll happen or not), but if you ask me, I don't think the government will impose something like this. requiring people to have a "responsible gambler certificate" in order to gamble would heavily affect the gambling industry in their country and they could lose a lot of revenue from it(which I am certain they don't want to happen). apart from that doing this could cause people to have a strong negative reaction to it and could result in protests or revolt(as yahoo62278 mentioned).

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gambling activity it is the freedom of everyone who wants to do it. the rule of asking for certificates will only make things worse in the gambling world.
and for me, if the government implements this method, many gamblers will disagree when gambling is an absolute right or someone's freedom to do so, but must be limited by rules like that, of course gamblers will be angry if that happens, while customer privacy is very important for gamblers who don't want to show the certificate to the government or to the casino.

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This will not be possible because gambling is made for adults that is from 18 years and above
At this age the government believes that you can decide on your actions before putting it into display. Government are benefiting from Casinos and the casinos are into business, which they have meet up to the government regulatory policy before operation. In a country where gambling is legal people have the freedom to gamble or not,therefore a certificate will not be required for you to have access to gamble. Addiction is a common thing as long as we are humans,if you give so much time to whatever activities you are into it then becomes an habit to you. Sex,smoking, drinking, gambling, taking of hard drugs can easily make you an addict and can lead to destruction of one's life,if not gotten rid of. There is always a warning to these kind of activities because the company and government knows their implications. So if after been warned,you went ahead and become an addict whose fault is it ?

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if the casino or government does that then where do they get the money from, isn't that funny if it's implemented, for example cigarettes in my country almost all cigarette packs are labeled with pictures of diseases caused by smoking and written in big bans for smoking but all return to cigarette addicts, cigarettes increasingly in demand, then if the casino and government apply the certificate you mean. whether that will change an addict for the better, not really, after all it's not going to happen

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If it is up to the casinos, they will not ask for these certificates since they all want the gamblers to lose.

I wouldn't really expect the government to do this with the intention to protect someone from getting addicted or spending more money. In the future, we already have CBDC where the government can just shut down your CBDC account and expect to see you homeless soon.

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there is always a possibilities because we knew how harder it is for the casino to operate and serve gamblers as the government because restrictions and rules will always be to apply.
But I also believe that Gambling sites don't want this implemented unless being forced.
as I can see the insult towards that gamblers being question while he has his money to risk and play.
this will only be applied to those who might be borrowing capital but for the capable? i don't think there is a need to comply.

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If there is a responsible gambler certificate it will be another form of corruption, the gambler can easily get it even though he is not a responsible gambler because it will be the same as a casino license that can be purchased even though the casino ultimately commits fraud and the licensee does nothing. What is happening now will remain like that, the gambler must be responsible for himself if he is addicted then he must find a party that can help him get out of the addiction, and the casino will not be responsible for the addiction of his players unless the players themselves do self-exclusion because of the impact Gambling has been damaging for example on his finances.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 09, 2023, 07:42:02 PM

Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

How would one even consider a gambler a "responsible" one? Sounds like a lot of paperwork, and if other casinos don't follow it then the effort simply is just wasted. Besides, casinos are a business, they may take into account a users personal interest by offering warnings, but no way in hell are they going to put out manpower to handle all that stuff, it's a loss of potential customers (since a lot would probably just not do it since a pain, kyc already is, imagine this being added).

The idea made me think up of a centralized group that handles registrations of gamblers though, so that there's like a one for all account type of thing so that KYC is only done once and tracking is much easier but, well, the hard part is trying to get a centralized group that can handle casinos in all countries to form though.

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This is always possible. This is a big WIN for everybody but I believe there will be a hard time for the government to fully implement this.
It's difficult also to predict how such regulations would be put into place and enforced, and it's likely that governments and online casinos would need to work together quite closely.

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Unless the government put them in this? to apply such action then they will proceed , but gambling sites or owner will never implement this themselves, who cares about what happen to the gambler? who cares about their life? casino has only one concern and that is our money lol.
yeah there are still casino that gives privilege to their players and some gives good return but accept that mate that this is for money.
like us who gamble? we need either Money or fun.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 09, 2023, 08:41:57 PM

Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.

in this I will completely agree .

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That will be too much but if it will be targetting specific gamblers like gamblers losing millions of dollars, I don't have a problem with it as I am not in that category but definitely the casino will suffer because these people are casino's cash cows and if these are the requirement of their license issue they might run their casino without a license or get their license from other issuers if possible.
The beauty of Cryptocurrency casinos is privacy and anonymity something that will be taken out once the issuers implemented this
I don't think the majority of the gambling community will adhere to this.

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