There is only 1 coin in dispute, Hellot. You are the only one confused about that.
We'll see. If Titan Bitcoin determines it's not their fault and you start crying again about getting paid, I'm sure it will come up again.
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We'll see. If Titan Bitcoin determines it's not their fault and you start crying again about getting paid, I'm sure it will come up again.
There is only 1 coin in dispute, Hellot. You are the only one confused about that.
I placed myself under suspicion by holding a Titan Btc and redeeming it and then saying "hey WTF is going on! I didn't get a bitcoin!?"
No. Tim is the one under suspicion. Tim is the one who signs certificates saying he has funded coins, when his website shows them as "not yet funded".
Tim is the one claiming that a perfectly sealed coin with a tamper-proof sticker has been undetectably tampered, and I claim that it was not tampered with.
Tim is the one selling "physical bitcoins" that don't have private keys on them, and may or may not be actually funded.
No. Tim is the one under suspicion. Tim is the one who signs certificates saying he has funded coins, when his website shows them as "not yet funded".
Tim is the one claiming that a perfectly sealed coin with a tamper-proof sticker has been undetectably tampered, and I claim that it was not tampered with.
Tim is the one selling "physical bitcoins" that don't have private keys on them, and may or may not be actually funded.
You have provided no proof that you peeled that sticker and you have provided no proof that this isn't the coin you bought on bitcointalk.org previously. Maybe you have provided this proof to Tim?
I wouldn't wish the situation that Todamont is on anyone.
I appreciate the support from those of you who have been happy with our customer service, but I also don't want this to turn into a string of ad hominem attacks on Todamont.
Todamont has a very valid concern, and I'm working with security auditors to identify if we're at fault.
I wish that process could be faster, but it takes time. We've ruled out the initial possibilities which led me to determine that this was a hologram hack, which we were not responsible for. The investigation is still ongoing.
In the meantime, I've asked that Todamont to wait on reimbursement until we've finished the investigation. I wish that Todamont wasn't hostile about the situation, but again I can't blame him for being upset and we, as a community, shouldn't either.
I appreciate the support from those of you who have been happy with our customer service, but I also don't want this to turn into a string of ad hominem attacks on Todamont.
Todamont has a very valid concern, and I'm working with security auditors to identify if we're at fault.
I wish that process could be faster, but it takes time. We've ruled out the initial possibilities which led me to determine that this was a hologram hack, which we were not responsible for. The investigation is still ongoing.
In the meantime, I've asked that Todamont to wait on reimbursement until we've finished the investigation. I wish that Todamont wasn't hostile about the situation, but again I can't blame him for being upset and we, as a community, shouldn't either.
Tim claims the coin *was* funded. He's now in dispute with his own website over whether or not the coin I hold was ever funded.
I placed myself under suspicion by holding a Titan Btc and redeeming it and then saying "hey WTF is going on! I didn't get a bitcoin!?"
No. Tim is the one under suspicion. Tim is the one who signs certificates saying he has funded coins, when his website shows them as "not yet funded".
Tim is the one claiming that a perfectly sealed coin with a tamper-proof sticker has been undetectably tampered, and I claim that it was not tampered with.
Tim is the one selling "physical bitcoins" that don't have private keys on them, and may or may not be actually funded.
No. Tim is the one under suspicion. Tim is the one who signs certificates saying he has funded coins, when his website shows them as "not yet funded".
Tim is the one claiming that a perfectly sealed coin with a tamper-proof sticker has been undetectably tampered, and I claim that it was not tampered with.
Tim is the one selling "physical bitcoins" that don't have private keys on them, and may or may not be actually funded.
I didn't take a picture of the coin before I peeled it. I did however, luckily, have a witness present when I peeled the "disputed" coin about 4 weeks ago.
I don't like being placed under suspicion because of Tim Fillmore's fuckup. Fucking Titan coin motherfuckers.
I don't like being placed under suspicion because of Tim Fillmore's fuckup. Fucking Titan coin motherfuckers.
Let's be clear here. You placed yourself under suspicion when you started this. Anyone coming here and making accusations better be able to back them up or you risk equal punishment or negative trust. You have come here on your own and asked us to pass judgement on TitanBTC. You will be equally scrutinized.
1) Not having pictures hurts you.
2) Not knowing who you bought it from hurts you.
3) Having evidence of you buying an already peeled one hurts you.
4) Acting out and being irrational hurts you.
How about you start helping yourself. We know you bought a peeled coin on bitcointalk.org and you've said that you have them right in front of you. How about you take very good pictures of both coins, front and back of both coin and hologram and submit that here for us to review. That would be a small start.
To me that's the most suspicious part of the whole thing. Tim's con has implicated me too. That's like a fucking *signature* of a con artist, that he tries to deflect and confuse the blame away from himself.
There is an *obvious* error in the Titan Btc database regarding the coin I hold. It shows the coin as "not yet funded". Tim claims the coin *was* funded. He's now in dispute with his own website over whether or not the coin I hold was ever funded. Yet he refuses to make good on this coin?
He's a scammer, it seems clear now.
There is an *obvious* error in the Titan Btc database regarding the coin I hold. It shows the coin as "not yet funded". Tim claims the coin *was* funded. He's now in dispute with his own website over whether or not the coin I hold was ever funded. Yet he refuses to make good on this coin?
He's a scammer, it seems clear now.
I didn't take a picture of the coin before I peeled it. I did however, luckily, have a witness present when I peeled the "disputed" coin about 4 weeks ago.
I don't like being placed under suspicion because of Tim Fillmore's fuckup. Fucking Titan coin motherfuckers.
I don't like being placed under suspicion because of Tim Fillmore's fuckup. Fucking Titan coin motherfuckers.
The one I bought "redeemed" had the sticker already peeled off. The disputed coin is a different coin.
I don't believe the "disputed" coin was ever redeemed, any more. I believe that, just like the Titan Btc website states, it is "not yet funded". I believe that Tim Fillmore has conned me out of a bitcoin.
I don't believe the "disputed" coin was ever redeemed, any more. I believe that, just like the Titan Btc website states, it is "not yet funded". I believe that Tim Fillmore has conned me out of a bitcoin.
Show us pictures of the coin before you peeled it.
The one I bought "redeemed" had the sticker already peeled off. The disputed coin is a different coin.
I don't believe the "disputed" coin was ever redeemed, any more. I believe that, just like the Titan Btc website states, it is "not yet funded". I believe that Tim Fillmore has conned me out of a bitcoin.
I don't believe the "disputed" coin was ever redeemed, any more. I believe that, just like the Titan Btc website states, it is "not yet funded". I believe that Tim Fillmore has conned me out of a bitcoin.
Before I decided to ignore the thread, I decided to do a little research.
You specifically bought redeemed coins on bitcoin talk. What would be the ods of you trying to make money on those specific coins?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6042783
From User: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/silvergoldandbitcoin-81933
You paid .16 worth, while your offer was .08for one. Your Feedback send was: "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected."
That user hasn't been active since August 03. Nice waiting time before you decided to pull a claim since he is no longer after.
I just wonder (since it wasn't made public yet) if that was the person the coin belonged to. Either you or Titan can confirm that.
Name: silvergoldandbitcoin
Email: [email protected]
You specifically bought redeemed coins on bitcoin talk. What would be the ods of you trying to make money on those specific coins?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6042783
From User: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/silvergoldandbitcoin-81933
You paid .16 worth, while your offer was .08for one. Your Feedback send was: "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected."
That user hasn't been active since August 03. Nice waiting time before you decided to pull a claim since he is no longer after.
I just wonder (since it wasn't made public yet) if that was the person the coin belonged to. Either you or Titan can confirm that.
Name: silvergoldandbitcoin
Email: [email protected]
Looks like that sale also included the certificates with the redeemed coins. That seller also registered btcgoldcoin.us so we may be able to find out more information other than his gmail by checking archives.
2) we know the coin is this one: https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/vFZKfWyJ/ Surely you can provide a more detailed explanation of sale date, and if it was sold to anyone who has reported lost coins or otherwise requested not to load the coins. Is the 1BTC for the coin still in a coldwallet waiting to be validated by the original buyer?
3) what about that ebay coin? id like to know how that is possible. is it a "lost" coin?
For #2, Titan Bitcoin did tell us when it was funded and redeemed. I'd also like to know more about the eBay coin that is advertised unfunded but don't want to contact the seller at this point.
Just give it up. It is painfully clear that you either got scammed or are part of a scam. If you are not the scammer, you completely failed as a buyer to do your homework before buying and you should move on and consider this a lesson learned. I don't think there is anyone here who would have bought that coin with the Titan status page like it is, a status page you admit to not knowing about, a page that you can easily find by googling titan bitcoin.
My fault was that I didn't check a verify page that I didn't know existed? Or is it my fault that Tim signs fraudulent certificates saying coins have been funded, when his database and website indicate that they haven't?
Is it this coin you bought?: "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected." (source: you left this trust review for someone selling redeemed coins)
And yes, i'd consider it your fault you did not validate a coin you purchased from a 3rd party. If you had done any reasearch before spending >1BTC on a coin you would have seen that TitanBTC strongly recommends validating the balance before purchase or resale.
I don't remember who I bought it from and I would not implicate them in the chain of ownership if I did. There may have been any number of owners between the original owner and myself, and it's not fair to throw any number of people under suspicion of theft or fraud over this unfunded/redeemed coin issue.
digging yourself a holeI don't even want any payment on this coin any more. I just want awareness that Titan Btc is not to be trusted. I want awareness, from the DA. I wish I was never associated with this fucking coin.
I hate you because of this.
man, you turned the rationality knob down to 1, and snapped off the insanity slider. I'm actually concerned by the fact you own a gun, because all you are doing is posting the same "security fraud" accusation over and over, and showing anger that TitanBTC seems fairly willing to work with you in a criminal investigation THAT YOU KEEP SAYING YOU WILL PERSUE 
@Todamont
You now realise the mistake/s you have now made, and now think posting personal attacks and unsubstantiated accusations will serve your frustration, right? Compound that frustration my friend, with knowing that you have helped Tim/Titan come out of this looking more upstanding and credible, than before this issue. Theres a lesson there, somewhere.
You now realise the mistake/s you have now made, and now think posting personal attacks and unsubstantiated accusations will serve your frustration, right? Compound that frustration my friend, with knowing that you have helped Tim/Titan come out of this looking more upstanding and credible, than before this issue. Theres a lesson there, somewhere.
I hate you because of this.
I don't even want any payment on this coin any more. I just want awareness that Titan Btc is not to be trusted. I want awareness, from the DA. I wish I was never associated with this fucking coin.
See Tim. Now I am under suspicion. Everyone who ever came into contact with that coin is under suspicion and it is marked "unfunded".
FUCK! Thanks a lot. Merry fuckin' Christmas 2015. Sorry if your whole business coming under suspicion of securities fraud is inconvenient for you.
FUCK! Thanks a lot. Merry fuckin' Christmas 2015. Sorry if your whole business coming under suspicion of securities fraud is inconvenient for you.
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