[TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks! - page 15.

Veleor

legendary

Activity: 1484

Merit: 1653

Rêlêå§ê ¥ðµr MïñÐ

Quote from: Veleor on September 21, 2018, 06:53:47 AM

Suspicious sendings

Capradina to BEDULMZT - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34810258 (archived)
Partisson to jalfanky - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45464806 (archived)
cacucacok91 to Don Lord - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45770401 (archived)

Bounty reports that received 1 merit from 17/09/2018:
From Full Member kalunomics: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45878046 (archived)
From Full Member Aivaryamal: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45858030 (archived)
From Member M.S.I: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45761046 (archived)

The Cryptovator

legendary

Activity: 2226

Merit: 2169

Need PR/CMC & CG? TG @The_Cryptovator

This user helped 23 demoted newbie Grin

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45997393

OgNasty

donator

Activity: 4718

Merit: 4218

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: suchmoon on September 21, 2018, 01:51:35 PM

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

Agreed. I too am guilty of batching merit pages.

Azna Azhar

newbie

Activity: 153

Merit: 0

Quote from: Jet Cash on September 21, 2018, 01:36:43 PM

Quote from: riyarana1123 on September 21, 2018, 01:21:22 PM

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

Please don't call them newbies - they aren't new at all.

Yes, we are not new, at first I did not care about merit. After a change of rules, merit became the center of attention for our second session newbie. I'm not too sure about members who can give merit for free or just because of the quality of the posts.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: mazdafunsun on September 21, 2018, 10:43:01 AM

The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.

Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

I'd also caution (and this is not specifically directed at you mazda) against getting too carried away with some of these abuse allegations. I've always maintained that merely sending and receiving merits is not a proof of wrongdoing. Of course if there is any other malfeasance involved (provable alts, quid pro quo, etc) then it's different. But some of these recent allegations seem to be based entirely on someone sending 1 merit to multiple users. Let them have it. If they're shitposters they'll get banned and will eventually run out of merits. Let's hit them where it hurts and report those spam posts.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 2444

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: riyarana1123 on September 21, 2018, 01:21:22 PM

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

Please don't call them newbies - they aren't new at all.

riyarana1123

copper member

Activity: 126

Merit: 0

So, nice of you people that you are helping those newbies who lost their position of jr. member after some changes.Thanks

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 2444

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: btc-facebook on September 21, 2018, 01:03:31 PM

How to being categorized as member that support newbie ?

Do you mean a newbie or a spambie?

To help newbies you need to offer training and advice, and that is more work than just giving merits to spambies to get on a list.

btc-facebook

legendary

Activity: 1862

Merit: 1015

How to being categorized as member that support newbie ?
I can see dumbtool45 already received the red, it means the list still valid ?

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 2444

https://JetCash.com

Welcome to the club.

I've almost given up hunting for posts that are worthy of merit. I decided that it was better to encourage good members to start good discussions, and use those as a base for meritable posts. I still believe that this is a good approach, but it seems to have fallen by the wayside a bit, especially as many of the potential awardees can't be bothered to join.

I'm also a bit pissed off that the guys awarding merits to the spambies are being lauded as supporters of newbies. Actually the reverse is true, and they make it harder for good new members to find a place here. I think it is time for the bifurcation of Bitcoin Talk, and the spambies can continue in the underworld, and allow the regrowth of the real Bitcoin Talk to begin.

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3332

Merit: 6809

Cashback 15%

Quote from: paxmao on September 21, 2018, 07:02:09 AM

This user is now a merit source I believe.

I am indeed. I'm also out of sMerits and I'm waiting with bated breath till the day I get topped up.

I'm far down on this list, but I definitely support newbies IF they make good posts. I've been hunting outside of Meta lately, looking for good ones by lower-ranked members (not just Newbies) and they are hard to find--and then there's the issue of having to check for plagiarism before giving someone merit. I got burned once on this and almost got burned a couple of times, and it's annoying to say the least.

Getting new members here posting in the English section who can actually write well is so rare. And it's rare when someone actually writes something that's interesting. There are so many generic posts being written that I can't bring myself to merit them even if they make sense. The newbies I actually sent merit to didn't write outstanding posts necessarily, but they were very good relative to the other ones in the threads they were posted in.

Note: I don't think any of the newbies I merited were for posts in Meta in the last 3 days. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure.

mazdafunsun

full member

Activity: 490

Merit: 123

Quote from: Piggy on September 21, 2018, 02:27:07 AM

interesting to see the top 4 merit givers are already red trusted and merited about 200 newbie, i haven't check yet the merited post, so i can be wrong, but i guess this is not going to end up well

Gave them a quick look and it seems like a huge farm atleast for some of them.

I do not think that these posts could be considered as good even if we strecth it:

Allo the intervals between awards is suspucious.

The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.

The real question will the mods have time to investigate these kind of cases , will this behaviour reveal big farms or let them be,

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 2444

https://JetCash.com

I think it's getting close to the time Bitcoin Talk allows a bifurcation. Let the underworld go down one fork, and the Bitcoin/Crypto discussions happen on the other.

MagicSmoker

full member

Activity: 420

Merit: 182

I just ranked up 2 3 more newbies in the altcoins/mining subforum bringing my total up to 7 8. It's fairly easy to find newbies making decent posts in the more technical subfora, vs., say, here in meta (or those cesspools of spam, the discussion subfora for either bitcoin or altcoins), and I haven't found nearly as much posting in spam megathreads or bounty reports by those newbies who show an interest in mining.

Conversely, most of the merit abuse seems to be occurring in the altcoins/announcements subforum; especially common is ANN thread starters meriting apparently random shitposts in their own threads. Consequently, I'm thinking of starting a thread to collect examples of such abuse to make it convenient for DT members to go paint the abusers red.

P.S. - please don't PM me to asking for a review of your posts, and definitely don't ask if you can buy a merit.

EDIT - I forgot to say I think that getting marked with a "spambies" rank if you make x number of posts without getting a single merit is an excellent idea!

Ondre

jr. member

Activity: 238

Merit: 1

https://i.imgur.com/iwknjIj.png

Thank you for this post of yours. Since the demotion that happened earlier this week I was really contemplating if there are people giving merits in the first place before giving strong comments on the demoted newbies. This post gives peace to my heart that indeed there are people who are doing also their part in this forum. This encourages me. To be honest, I stopped for few days to also see where I am lacking and where I can improve. I can see hope as I also move forward to what is better for the purpose of fhis forum.

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 2444

https://JetCash.com

He posted that he is now a source.

Piggy

hero member

Activity: 784

Merit: 1416

Quote from: paxmao on September 21, 2018, 07:02:09 AM

Quote from: Coin-1 on September 20, 2018, 11:58:05 PM

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The Pharmacist

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This user is now a merit source I believe.

I think he was stating not so long ago (a week or two) he was not, or at least he never applied to be one as far as i know. However nobody could complain if he was added to the recent 36 new merit sources silently.

paxmao

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1575

Do not die for Putin

Quote from: Coin-1 on September 20, 2018, 11:58:05 PM

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The Pharmacist

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This user is now a merit source I believe.

Veleor

legendary

Activity: 1484

Merit: 1653

Rêlêå§ê ¥ðµr MïñÐ

Suspicious sendings

Capradina to BEDULMZT - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34810258 (archived)
Partisson to jalfanky - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45464806 (archived)
cacucacok91 to Don Lord - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45770401 (archived)

criz2fer

full member

Activity: 672

Merit: 127

Quote from: Veleor on September 21, 2018, 04:12:58 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 21, 2018, 03:54:44 AM

I took it as a list of the people who are actively following the below recommendation.

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If a newbie posts something that could be even called good, then give them 1 merit.

Especially for such messages?

http://archive.li/HGtOG#selection-4929.0-4929.12

You can also check this post with 5 merits which are post September 17, 2018, 01:14:43 PM: 5 to nityans for Re: 💰🚀[ANN][100% AIRDROP] CataloniaCash - Support & Decentralize Independence!🚀💰

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23858555

Just separate or better not include red trust members on this.

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