Topic: Total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!] - page 2. (Read 2621 times)

No, not enough. I make a translation of Google, I have no strength, I was sitting for 3 hours, instead of sleeping.

     By Tryto look. Posts in English to anyone it is clear that I did not write. He writes himself ... Not a single drop, not a single bounty. And suddenly
    My data is laid out for the bounty, like I decided to earn. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37338609
    My data is posted in 2 months, after the data from my post from Smart man.
    Moreover, the bounty is completely left, into which I entered as a bounty translator. There were dozens of good ICOs, no, that's exactly where I was, others are not needed,
    neither earlier nor later.

    And now the fanfare!

  We open the translator bounty table, I see myself https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1krkESymhqcKjDGTtnTgyBlnpyZwe0us-X4EF1kK-SqA/edit#gid=0

  We open signature table and the miracle. Where is the tryto https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/155YScVfWJzcsk82CZzJLNebj9OLHqceUeyWGi1cwPQ0/edit#gid=0

  So for no reason at all I decided to earn 1 bounty and earned it so that it is not even in the bounty table? Why is it not there, although in the branch it was added
  with my data? Well? Who will understand?

 Please read the all post in Russian with the help of Google translator. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51667396

I see, they have used same telegram user name here and here. This is already enough for them to get banned under ban evasion I guess.

Nothing to argue here btw. It is turning towards a moderation issue too.

I has nothing to do with this man.

Username: MelnikBitok Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/melnikbitok-1505498

When I decided to take a bounty, it was also interesting to receive from the airdrop coins.

 MelnikBitok PR topic, fills out forms, customers receive airdrops tokens https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28114513
I gave him my wallet so that the airdrop coins would be poured, he would fight in the drops to his FB and Twitter, he would point out my wallet. Received 20 rubles for a completed form. To him, there were several such topics. You can look at the wallet, really gave different airdrop tokens that ALL cost $1. Well and to whom not laziness, to look registrations in these drops which were made by MelnikBitok. I have nothing to do with his accounts, on the forum I intersect with a huge number of people on various issues.

You found this data yourself on airdrop and attached above screen

 I wrote yesterday in detail about this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51661417

 And today I added https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51667396 By account Tryto answered here

 Please use google translate, thank you.

Sufficient evidence appeared yesterday. Now he deserves a change in the trust in case of fraud or blocking in case of evasion of the ban, without evidence I will never draw such conclusions. Until yesterday, it looked like a suspicion.

I still fail to see the direct link between Smart Man and the farmed accounts. There are some payments between some of the ETH wallets but that is something to be expected from a bounty manager.

But I do see the direct link between the perma-banned account Tryto and Smart Man.

I can understand your way of logic, but it is a bit flawed for this situation.

Here the same guilty man was trying to still innocent peoples rewards by merit trading and account farming. Letting him walk free would punish and let suffer more innocent peoples than one can think of due to his support from some of the reputed members and DTs. This is an overall harm to the cleaner environment of the forum and prone to abuse if you see.

Anyways the blockchain evidence are already a solid proof to come to a conclusion for both you and me and the OP.

The evidence was not here. Just the accusation along with lots of other unproven accusations.

It is better to let a guilty man walk free than to punish an innocent person.

Blockchain prrof of bounty cheating is strong proof that deception led to financial gain.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190701041340/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4795016.1660 MariaHoume
http://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3219355.260 nafantc
http://web.archive.org/web/20190701041730/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3429837.0 DjonMnemonik
http://web.archive.org/web/20190701041845/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3280729.0 nafantc
http://web.archive.org/web/20190701042050/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2670346.0 MelnikBitok
http://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2589870.msg26362627%23msg26362627 cryptosolovey
http://web.archive.org/web/20190701042321/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3746757.0 Allexmdd

I've reviewed Smart man's posts and looked at the evidence.

I see solid evidence linking the accounts: MariaHoume,  nafantc, DjonMnemonik, MelnikBitok, cryptosolovey and Allexmdd

But I fail to understand the direct link between those accounts to smart man.

However I do understand this:









https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Tryto

The evidence was already here, but most of the people were trying to avoid it in the whatever way they can including you. But I am glad you got to know the real culprit of this farming cycle. Smartman was shady enough from the first look to me.

With patience sufficient evidence is eventually found.

When dealing with reputations care has to be taken.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1090672

But this should have been done on the reputation board.

You have not correctly translated the Russian word "дoмыcлы".  You translate under tracing paper, losing meaning. The correct translation with preservation of meaning, not speculation, but interpretation.
Do you want to talk about the facts? I checked your charges on this case.

Date of registration.

registration date is the same in numbers for only two people. Matches only in numbers, in time does not match. The other two people do not even match the date. Conclusion, date of registration, is not evidence in this case.
MrBoston 11/13/2017 4:41:17 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=MrBoston
Fixxer767 11/13/2017 5:22:55 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Fixxer767

Jeronimo78  11/14/2017 1:41:18 PM
https://bpip.org/search.aspx?q=Jeronimo78
Blanchrc40   11/11/2017 2:09:12 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Blanchrc40

Password change date.

password change time is the same for two users with an interval of 16 minutes. Indirectly may be evidence.
MrBoston 3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=MrBoston
Blanchrc40 3/25/2018 9:32:14 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Blanchrc40

Fixxer767 3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM the date of the password change is the same, the time does not match. Indirect weak evidence.
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Fixxer767

Jeronimo78 user date change password does not match. Also, the date of registration does not match. This cannot be evidence.
Jeronimo78 3/18/2018 4:13:10 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Jeronimo78

woke up
Jeronimo78 5/9/2019 8:29:33 AM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Jeronimo78
MrBoston   5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=MrBoston
Blanchrc40 5/9/2019 8:34:21 AM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Blanchrc40
Fixxer767 5/12/2019 11:30:10 AM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Fixxer767

Jeronimo78 has a coincidence with one of the above. By registering and changing the password no. Based on this, I would not bind them with confidence


Comments

Comments of these users in the topic Smartman do not contain addresses, logins, other individual data. There are no reviews on cooperation with Smartman However, following only your logic, consider these comments to be interrelated. This is your interpretation, this is prejudice, but not proof.
These comments do not violate the rules.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43702837
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43790610
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44035191
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26771578
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34592044
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36061797
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47444532
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47476556

Merit

This supposed farm has no common merit, your multi-level picture is not proof for me. People who get a lot of merit are connected with many people, it may not be what you think, for me this is not proof.

Customer feedback.

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058283.msg48106050#msg48106050
There is one review of poorly performed work. In the same topic, the person who left the review offers services of a higher quality, competes. I didn’t see what he was asking for money back, or talking about fraud. But I saw that you corresponded with another user. It mentions the possibility of performing WP.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.21750927
http://archive.md/2sW1R

 I asked you a clarifying question several times, you left the answer.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51603044

I suspect the existence of a second motive for prosecution.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51544427

The most important thing in this case. This is not a reason for changing the trust, for me. If you are confident in the evidence, submit it to the moderators. Jeronimo78 is locked. If your evidence is sufficient, Smartman falls under rule 25. This is a good way to check the quality of your facts, but this is not enough for me. If there is other evidence, you may find a connection. At the moment, you are accusing people of corruption, without evidence. You come to META to make a loud headline, and when they ask you for proof, you say; - "I have compiled a questionnaire for you, answer 4 questions" ... If you have no evidence, you can only assume and then your survey and questions will be relevant if you ask politely.
But you have already left a review Smartman, he has the right to challenge him.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1090672
Reference https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51607143
This is on your conscience. What questions to me? we have a different understanding of the evidence base


You also slandered me.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51544427

I see an increase in harassment and false accusations, interspersed with insults and pressure. I think this is the work of several people. At first disputes were fought around BTC, now personal attacks began.

Want to laugh?
Check out this post: I have described in great detail how Smart man is working from his alt accounts.
Do you understand the level of discussion?
- Here are the proofs.
- I see nothing, it is suspicion.
- Here are the facts.
- I can not see anything.

 

On one hand DTs are tagging an low evidence case of 'Thread Bumping' pretty fast here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/this-user-is-offering-bitcointalk-comment-selling-service-5157841 ( 4 red tags in couple of days )

One the other hand, even after posting a lot of proves and solid discussions on the topic mentioned in the OP, most of the DTs are protecting this scammer @SmartMan by declining the argument by saying it is not an support from DT but someone disagreeing with you lol

Wow Wow Double standards perfect example..

xtraelv

Try to look at the situation from my point of view. I also think that I show simple facts and ask simple questions, but they are ignored.
If you want to continue the discussion, you can repeat your questions. But in that case I will repeat my questions.

It gets to a stage where it becomes apparent that no matter how much it is explained to you that you do not appear to read or undestand the responses. A good example is earlier in the thread where I answer all your questions and then you claim that I havent answered them.. You have done the same thing to others. This is why I archived the thread. Anyone reading this thread can see that you deliberately ignore answers because they do not support your rhetoric.

Yet - I asked you a question earlier in the thread which remains unanswered.

This is your personal opinion. Some people have a different opinion:



They diligently avoid discussing the facts ... all because I am bad?
I don't care what they call me (troll, liar, etc.), but I would like to hear their statements on specific issues.

The evidence you provide is weak. Evidence shouldn't be like extracting teeth in order to get each piece. It should be clearly presented at the start of the thread and have a logical flow which it lacks.

It should also be in line with the guidance of Theymos and break the forum rules.

Because you personally attack the DTs that have responded to you - they react less than favorable to you. You have failed to provide solid evidence against respected members of this forum. In your thread you allege that there is "total corruption involving DTs"

That is not "defending a scammer". It is a reaction to you acting like an asshole.

The information that served as the beginning of my investigation was published on february 04, 2019. Everyone in local ignored this information. There was no action or comment.
When additional evidence was published (on June 08, 2019), some DT members (taikuri13, chimk, Alex_Sr) began to aggressively protect the scamer.
And as you can see from the first post, I found a lot of scamers and additional evidence, but none of the listed DT members are interested in it, they only continue to protect the scamer.
I think this is an important issue for the entire forum and should be resolved at a high level.

I am not surprise that dbshck is one of the top sender of merits this because he/she is a merit source and does only do his/her job actively sending merits. The user usually handed 4 merits on every posts that he/she merited. I cannot see reason that this user must be accountable in any problems in that local board.

Anyway, whatever problem the local board has let it solve by them at their level and no need to reach out the forum admins as much as possible. There are local boards moderators and for sure those users should be PM first and should have respected the chain. It is not a good idea to directly go over admins or global forum moderators without asking first the local boards moderators. This is how it should be done and posting here would less likely to be appreciated by theymos.

chimk

If you think that calling your opponent a liar, a troll, etc. you led the arguments, then you are mistaken.
I prefer to discuss the facts, and you diligently try to avoid it.


Still waiting for your answers.

What can be discussed with a liar who has gone down to slander? Feel free to rebuttal.