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Quote from: tygeade on May 07, 2023, 01:55:15 AM

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 03, 2023, 04:53:12 PM

If it is about Bitcoin, I think it is better to invest than to trade it. I almost never trade Bitcoin because I can't get enough profits by trading Bitcoin since I only use small money. While trading in altcoins, I can get enough profits because altcoins are more volatile and can move the price quickly. Bitcoin price just grows gradually and it is not very significantly moving.

Perhaps, it's true and I'd never use BTC trading pairs until I notice that it was not profitable compared to altcoins.
And I see that BTC is just only for long-term investment, not really cool for trading. Because in investment, we don't need to have a very volatile coin but what we need is a project that will certainly grow and increase its price in the long run, and this is how we know about Bitcoin. But in trading, we need to consider how volatile it was and seems to see that Bitcoin doesn't have that kind of behavior now.

I think it would still work if you try to look for futures. Since there are x10 or x50 or x100 and some more, that means you could make volatile deals. If that is all you look for of course, that is why most people prefer bitcoin futures instead of altcoins, sure altcoins are volatile but they are unreliable as well, whereas bitcoin is not as volatile as some of the low caps, but if you use x100 then it is as volatile as it gets and you could lose it all in a minute.

Plenty of people turned thousands of dollars into millions of dollars within a few months only by just doing high leverage during bull run, that should be considered a good deal and I hope that many people start to learn that easily as well. I personally feel like we will have plenty of people get rich using leverage during next bull run as well.

It is absurd to say that bitcoin trading is not more profitable than altcoins. As you said, if you want to make a lot of money and take risks, then using leverage will fulfill that need. I seriously doubt it when someone says they can make a profit from trading altcoins but can't make a profit from trading bitcoin.

And I don't think trading will be able to make more money than investing. I have not seen anyone who can become a millionaire or a billionaire through trading, mostly from investing. You can make high profits from trading, but there is no guarantee that you will always win and never lose. But with investment and holding that becomes easier.

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Quote from: Natalim on May 04, 2023, 07:39:17 AM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 03, 2023, 04:53:12 PM

If it is about Bitcoin, I think it is better to invest than to trade it. I almost never trade Bitcoin because I can't get enough profits by trading Bitcoin since I only use small money. While trading in altcoins, I can get enough profits because altcoins are more volatile and can move the price quickly. Bitcoin price just grows gradually and it is not very significantly moving.

Perhaps, it's true and I'd never use BTC trading pairs until I notice that it was not profitable compared to altcoins.
And I see that BTC is just only for long-term investment, not really cool for trading. Because in investment, we don't need to have a very volatile coin but what we need is a project that will certainly grow and increase its price in the long run, and this is how we know about Bitcoin. But in trading, we need to consider how volatile it was and seems to see that Bitcoin doesn't have that kind of behavior now.

I think it would still work if you try to look for futures. Since there are x10 or x50 or x100 and some more, that means you could make volatile deals. If that is all you look for of course, that is why most people prefer bitcoin futures instead of altcoins, sure altcoins are volatile but they are unreliable as well, whereas bitcoin is not as volatile as some of the low caps, but if you use x100 then it is as volatile as it gets and you could lose it all in a minute.

Plenty of people turned thousands of dollars into millions of dollars within a few months only by just doing high leverage during bull run, that should be considered a good deal and I hope that many people start to learn that easily as well. I personally feel like we will have plenty of people get rich using leverage during next bull run as well.

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Trading or investing these two basically depend on the market conditions. If a person feels that he has a good understanding of all aspects of trading and also has a suitable financial condition for trading then he can trade. Here the person must be well informed about the loss before trading. We know investing in cryptocurrencies is risky that can be trade or investment. But on a comparative analysis the investment certainly seems quite reasonable to me. When a person invests for a long period of time he will have no worries about the market. Moreover, it is also possible to earn large profits on investments for a long period of time. But in the case of investment, you have to invest in a suitable platform. Trading is a high risk activity where a small mistake can lead to big losses.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 01, 2023, 02:04:35 PM

I always prefer investment over trading, but that is personally about me and nothing about other things. I know that it is going to change a lot when the time comes but we should not be shocked at trading becoming a lot better, and there are some people who can trade and make a lot more money for sure.

I agree with that as I also preferred to consider Bitcoin as an investment rather than using this for trading pairs.
Not only because I don't like it but its of how it moves and is less volatile compared to altcoins, therefore, I would say that it never suits it. The high volatility of Altcoins seems to be its advantage as it generates more profit than using Bitcoin. In fact, major traders do not often use this as their trading pairs but instead, they are using more altcoins preferably new and hyped projects.

More volatile altcoins can offer greater returns, but altcoin movements don't follow any rules. Most of them are manipulated, so the analysis is hardly effective, especially the new altcoins, which don't have any data to analyze. I'm not a professional trader either, but I think bitcoin trading is better than altcoins. At least the movement of bitcoin depends on supply and demand, macroeconomic news, and past developments... from there, we will have an overview and can make predictions about the future of bitcoin. Unlike altcoins, its movement is completely dependent on the manipulation of market makers.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 27, 2023, 02:45:25 PM

I have reason deep to understand cryptos to a point but nothing seem to make different, in this last week, I have done a lot of reading to accumulates more ideas, gained radical knowledge of the market. Often time I met saying I'm into trading I don't do investment, on the other some I'm into investment, trading is on a very high risk demands. I ask this questions severally what's your reason why you chose trading to be better off than investment? What's the major risk involved, the challenges expected of you? Traders always wants to said when am trading I have time to watching over what am doing, I practically watch over the market either against my risk or for risk taken.
Trading can be much expected in price, you can earn enough if the market favour you, you chose when to close your open trades.

Over to you investors, they will said trading is rigorous and difficult to navigates through, trading incurs too much losses that's why I prefer to fix my money as investment watch it grow with due time, and if the market falls I can decided to take my money but the good thing is that I don't have to stress myself.

Now over to you reader, which aspect of bitcoin is best or worst experience? Where are you good at! Trading or investment? Bursts our brain with your expertise

If you do go prefer on long term then - INVESTMENT
If you do like to play with the price movements - TRADING
If you do have the ample time and could put some effort - BOTH

You could actually accumulate funds for long term holds or act as an investment on the time that you do make out some profits of your trading.It is actually just that basing or
on your plans because you cant really that able to be that progressive if you wont really be making some action. This is why you should really be that careful
and mindful when it comes to your decisions.

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Trading or investing - this question cannot be answered unequivocally. It's better to invest not in a falling market (although who knows when the market will stop falling; maybe right after you invest, the market will start rising?), but you can always trade. So it all depends on the decision point here.

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Quote from: RewFrew on May 06, 2023, 01:05:26 PM

Some times trading is good and some times holding is good.When market fall or get crash then have to invest on top coin or token for long time. I believe it will be profitable and will give good return. Such as i bought some token and coin in deep and i will hold it for long time. I will wait for bull market. Some times trading give profit but i think holding is best. Because i am huge profited fron long time investment.

choosing tokens in falling market conditions is not good. you may be more at ease when allocating the investments you hold in Bitcoin. it will be more convenient for you. but if you prefer altcoins, maybe you should be careful with your choice. not all top market altcoins will keep your investment value well.
sometimes people do both, but some are more dominant and lucky in one of them. maybe those who are not very good at trading will prefer to hold their assets to wait for the pump. but those who like to trade with short profits, tend to be impatient when it comes to holding assets for the long term.

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Quote from: JamesBorn on April 27, 2023, 02:45:25 PM

Over to you investors, they will said trading is rigorous and difficult to navigates through, trading incurs too much losses that's why I prefer to fix my money as investment watch it grow with due time, and if the market falls I can decided to take my money but the good thing is that I don't have to stress myself.

Now over to you reader, which aspect of bitcoin is best or worst experience? Where are you good at! Trading or investment? Bursts our brain with your expertise

You have something to know that trading is too risky and will certainly incur losses as possible if you are not carefully doing this. In fact, even if you have a long experience in trading sometimes you will still lose because there is no exemption in this.

What you gonna do OP is to assess yourselves first if you are really capable enough to trade that is why I encourage you to try to know it. But if you think you're not, I would say holding is the best option. Why? It is not stressful and you could really have some peace of mind, unlike when you are in trading where your decision is very important and too much pressure.

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Prefer making an investment more than trading.Trading is more risky and involved lots of losses but making a very good investment can easily results into profits,knew many people who make alot by investing in altcoins ,some made thousands investing in good stocks. Think investment if made in the right place is far more profitable than trading.

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I try to do both. First, I will invest in some price point which will give me a small to average profit in a midterm plan. Then I will use the profits to trade later on.
That way, I can keep the main balance as it is and use the profits to continue my journey in trading. When I make profits in trading, I will put back the previous profit earned from investment back to the invested asset. And hold for a more midterm profit (based on analysis). Then I use the profits earned from trading to trade more. This way, the amount I lose in trading will not have any effect over all my assets.
This is just how I do things. If it is helpful to anyone, let me know.

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Quote from: imamusma on May 06, 2023, 12:40:58 PM

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In my opinion Investment and Trading are equally risky. Where if we do without good research and strategy, we will lose our capital.

But besides that, both are also able to provide benefits.

Both are fine to pursue as long as you can get a worth return for your effort.
But each of us has different plans and paths in this industry even though the main aim is to make profit. So no problem, for me trading and investing is fine.

Traders expect quick profits, I mean they utilize their skills to profit from price volatility in a shorter time frame than investors. Some traders will take profits several times a day, while others will do so for several days depending on how big their profit target is. Investors are different, they will expect returns over a longer period of time, and this varies from one investor to another. Some investors expect profits between cycles, while others do not specify when to take profits. In essence both ways are risky, but I tend to recommend long-term investing for most people instead of trading if they don't have the skills to trade.

There are different types of traders, some are good on both bull and bear they can use future trades to compensate their trades whatever the directions of the market will take place, though both long and short can be perform depending from each traders strategy they can earn as long as they understand and they have the right sets of knowledge to perform their trades.

In terms of investment, there are traders who also use this venue for investing traders who focus on long-term achievements.

They are willing to take the long ride and be compensated up to the maximum potentials of the project that they choose as the medium of their investment.

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Some times trading is good and some times holding is good.When market fall or get crash then have to invest on top coin or token for long time. I believe it will be profitable and will give good return. Such as i bought some token and coin in deep and i will hold it for long time. I will wait for bull market. Some times trading give profit but i think holding is best. Because i am huge profited fron long time investment.

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Quote from: lombok on May 06, 2023, 11:49:34 AM

In my opinion Investment and Trading are equally risky. Where if we do without good research and strategy, we will lose our capital.

But besides that, both are also able to provide benefits.

Both are fine to pursue as long as you can get a worth return for your effort.
But each of us has different plans and paths in this industry even though the main aim is to make profit. So no problem, for me trading and investing is fine.

Traders expect quick profits, I mean they utilize their skills to profit from price volatility in a shorter time frame than investors. Some traders will take profits several times a day, while others will do so for several days depending on how big their profit target is. Investors are different, they will expect returns over a longer period of time, and this varies from one investor to another. Some investors expect profits between cycles, while others do not specify when to take profits. In essence both ways are risky, but I tend to recommend long-term investing for most people instead of trading if they don't have the skills to trade.

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In my opinion Investment and Trading are equally risky. Where if we do without good research and strategy, we will lose our capital.

But besides that, both are also able to provide benefits.

More simply, why don't you simplify your goals first. In my personal opinion, if the money you use is really free and is intended as an investment. Investment by way of DCA buy spot in Bitcoin is a great choice. You don't have to be preoccupied with analysis too often and you shouldn't get too overwhelmed if the price of BTC goes down, instead it will be a buying opportunity.

Trading side..You really have to be in control of yourself. Don't follow emotions. I'm not a good trader, but I want to remind you that controlling yourself over the market is the most difficult thing. So beware!

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Now over to you reader, which aspect of bitcoin is best or worst experience? Where are you good at! Trading or investment? Bursts our brain with your expertise

In this case, I suggest looking at the activities of each person, trading and investing in Bitcoin have their respective advantages and disadvantages, especially in terms of making a profit or loss. btw, seeing that my activities in the real world are quite busy, I prefer investing over trading (I mean daily or weekly trading) therefore I have to work hard to manage my finances well so that the investments I make can bring me profit. while investing, I also do monthly trading, when the price goes up I will sell a few percent gradually then when the price goes down, I will also buy a few percent gradually.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on May 03, 2023, 04:53:12 PM

If it is about Bitcoin, I think it is better to invest than to trade it. I almost never trade Bitcoin because I can't get enough profits by trading Bitcoin since I only use small money. While trading in altcoins, I can get enough profits because altcoins are more volatile and can move the price quickly. Bitcoin price just grows gradually and it is not very significantly moving.

Not all altcoins are the same, there are some that almost repeat the movements of bitcoin, respectively, trading them is almost the same as trading bitcoin. But there are also significantly volatile altcoins and it is obvious that they can bring great profits, but at the same time, the risks for your funds are higher.

I am still very careful about trading is and I continue to invest in bitcoin, because I see a much greater benefit for myself in this. Buying bitcoin seems like a safer investment to me because I don't have the risk of losing it in a trade, and bull market I will get a profit from my investment.

Usually, altcoins depend on the price of Bitcoin, no matter what it is. That's what I noticed when I kept looking at the chart. When Bitcoin goes up, the altcoins go up too, except for USDT, BUSD, USDC because they are stable coins. If you see coins whose price does not increase even though all altcoins have increased, there is a high chance that it is a scam, but not all of them. But if there are altcoins that are going up even though the price of Bitcoin is down, for me it is strong altcoins. That's why it's good to invest on that coin because the demand is very high, how much more if the price of Bitcoin goes up, there is a very high possibility that the price of that coin will multiply.

Gotta confess, cracking the code of Bitcoin and altcoin jiggles is like solving a Rubik's Cube blindfolded! Sure, altcoins often play follow-the-leader with Bitcoin's price, but there are maverick coins that defy this dance, leaving us scratching our heads.

In my humble estimation, we gotta be on our toes, stalking market trends like a cat on the prowl – Bitcoin's shenanigans, altcoin high jinks, and juicy news tidbits. Plus, let's throw our weight behind coins boasting sterling performance records and a fan club that puts Beliebers to shame.

However, let's also embrace the fact that the market might just toss a curveball our way. Don't shy away from flexing those investment strategies like a bendy yogi. By staying agile and open-minded, we boost our odds of striking gold in this wild, ever-morphing market playground.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on May 05, 2023, 02:11:19 PM

My take between investing and trading is that for one to stay with what is working for you. Do not say that your friends are doing trading and it's working for them so, you'd join them. And when it doesn't work you keep moving.
My take is that you should be patient, observe, study and know what your strength and weakness are with regards to both of them and then when you have found out, play to your strength.

That means we have to know which one is right for us to work optimally and get more profit. If you choose to invest, you must have the patience to hold on to your coins and try to do other things that might benefit you. And if trading is what you choose, you must learn to analyze and study the necessary indicators to enter the market at the right time. But everything requires a process to have the expertise and ability to determine what we choose, so we must have patience.

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Now over to you reader, which aspect of bitcoin is best or worst experience? Where are you good at! Trading or investment? Bursts our brain with your expertise

I prefer to go for investment 10 times before I’ll think of trading. I’m not good at trading and I’m not the type of person that’ll be keeping an eye on the market because I easily lose focus when everything gets bored or don’t work in my favour. The risk involved in trading is not worth something I can take so I’d rather go for investment and watch my savings grow whether in my favour or not, at least the loss is going to be minimal as compared to trading.

Investing can be a good option for those who are not comfortable with the volatility and risks associated with trading. Investing involves buying an asset with the expectation of holding it for a longer period of time and benefiting from its growth over time. It is generally considered to be less risky than trading, as it does not involve buying and selling assets in a short period of time to make quick profits.

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My take between investing and trading is that for one to stay with what is working for you. Do not say that your friends are doing trading and it's working for them so, you'd join them. And when it doesn't work you keep moving.
My take is that you should be patient, observe, study and know what your strength and weakness are with regards to both of them and then when you have found out, play to your strength.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 01, 2023, 02:04:35 PM

I always prefer investment over trading, but that is personally about me and nothing about other things. I know that it is going to change a lot when the time comes but we should not be shocked at trading becoming a lot better, and there are some people who can trade and make a lot more money for sure.

I agree with that as I also preferred to consider Bitcoin as an investment rather than using this for trading pairs.
Not only because I don't like it but its of how it moves and is less volatile compared to altcoins, therefore, I would say that it never suits it. The high volatility of Altcoins seems to be its advantage as it generates more profit than using Bitcoin. In fact, major traders do not often use this as their trading pairs but instead, they are using more altcoins preferably new and hyped projects.

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