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August 21, 2017, 05:54:34 AM
yeah you are right for becoming a good trader you need practice and analysis of at least 3-4 years then you  can call your self a good trader.
its not very easy to earn money with trading . if you don't know anything about the market you can also lose your money in one day so start with a small amount which you can afford to loose. think twice before doing anything   .thats my advice to all the beginners

I think a year of experience would already make you a good trader. If you're consistently trading and observing what happening during ghat one year, you pretty much will be able to read how most coins move and formulate a strategy on what, when and how much you're going to trade
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August 20, 2017, 11:34:00 PM
yeah you are right for becoming a good trader you need practice and analysis of at least 3-4 years then you  can call your self a good trader.
its not very easy to earn money with trading . if you don't know anything about the market you can also lose your money in one day so start with a small amount which you can afford to loose. think twice before doing anything   .thats my advice to all the beginners
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August 20, 2017, 11:24:23 PM
If you buy such pump and dump shitcoins,then you would have to face such losses.Thats why it is always adviced to do  a research and find the best coins to be invested.Don't ever invest in altcoin on just seeing its price increasing rapidly.Most newbies do this same mistake and then they just quit trading and they feel comfort in just hlding their bitcoins.
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August 20, 2017, 10:11:12 PM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy Bitcoin and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better Bitcoin if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need Bitcoin create this trend first.
And I must say I got some real experienced man. I would say that if somebody wants to quit trading then it is up to that person and it tells us that that person is not hard working. Market always has ups and downs and for real trading we must how to go through them. Bitcoin already has proven that it is better than all other currencies. But holding is also not a bad thing if we think about it as it also gives huge benefits.
Yes and for me I have nothing to say about bitcoin proves everything that he is the number coin of all we can't say that it will die soon but never be happen so for me trading much better and holding give this only a specific time but don't hold too long.
Here comes the thing that what actually you want to make? And there are two possibilities, either you would be aiming to get more money or you would be aiming to get more bitcoin. holding coin is lazy thing it will and trading is active. Both contains risk because if value falls in market then both things will be at loss but trading will be more in loss. The only difference is that trading gives you bitcoin and holding gives you money. So its up to you what do you want.

Im not sure how you see it dude. Bitcoin is money. Both holding and daytrading can give you profit. Holding isn't lazy, its for people who feel safer leaving their coins in their wallets because active trading may make them lose money. There's nothing wrong with both it just depends on the person's preference and capacity to handle the market movements
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August 20, 2017, 06:56:30 PM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy Bitcoin and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better Bitcoin if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need Bitcoin create this trend first.
And I must say I got some real experienced man. I would say that if somebody wants to quit trading then it is up to that person and it tells us that that person is not hard working. Market always has ups and downs and for real trading we must how to go through them. Bitcoin already has proven that it is better than all other currencies. But holding is also not a bad thing if we think about it as it also gives huge benefits.
Yes and for me I have nothing to say about bitcoin proves everything that he is the number coin of all we can't say that it will die soon but never be happen so for me trading much better and holding give this only a specific time but don't hold too long.
Here comes the thing that what actually you want to make? And there are two possibilities, either you would be aiming to get more money or you would be aiming to get more bitcoin. holding coin is lazy thing it will and trading is active. Both contains risk because if value falls in market then both things will be at loss but trading will be more in loss. The only difference is that trading gives you bitcoin and holding gives you money. So its up to you what do you want.
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August 20, 2017, 04:21:34 AM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!

Hey man, which country are you at? I don't think there is anywhere much shittier than where I am right now. But anyway, If you are a newbie you should really avoid trading bitcoins or altcoins... 1.8k USD is a lot, you could have been rich now if you have bought BTC before the fork and then converted all your assets into Bitcoin Cash yesterday before it was pumped.

For people like us, we should really stick to that "buy and HODL" system, specially if you have a day job and you cannot afford to be a fulltime trader.

By the way, amigo... try lending your bitcoins in poloniex or bitfinex. A profit of 0.02% every 2 days is not too bad at all. Cheers!
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August 19, 2017, 05:49:25 PM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy Bitcoin and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better Bitcoin if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need Bitcoin create this trend first.
And I must say I got some real experienced man. I would say that if somebody wants to quit trading then it is up to that person and it tells us that that person is not hard working. Market always has ups and downs and for real trading we must how to go through them. Bitcoin already has proven that it is better than all other currencies. But holding is also not a bad thing if we think about it as it also gives huge benefits.
Yes and for me I have nothing to say about bitcoin proves everything that he is the number coin of all we can't say that it will die soon but never be happen so for me trading much better and holding give this only a specific time but don't hold too long.
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August 19, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy Bitcoin and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better Bitcoin if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need Bitcoin create this trend first.
And I must say I got some real experienced man. I would say that if somebody wants to quit trading then it is up to that person and it tells us that that person is not hard working. Market always has ups and downs and for real trading we must how to go through them. Bitcoin already has proven that it is better than all other currencies. But holding is also not a bad thing if we think about it as it also gives huge benefits.
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August 18, 2017, 04:38:57 PM
Trading the restricted procure income sans work do diligent work. On the off chance that you don't have any learning of Trading the good thing is to hold your coins in your wallet and offer them just when it's giving you great benefits
It all depends not all the time trading is reliable because it's a normal case when it has low value at times and also there are good chances in trading for some reasons especially when there are many investors. If I also my coins,I have to monitor it from time to time so that I will be able to see if I gain profits or if I will have losses. We can't blame but just control our emotion always have patience with you in terms of trading btc.
Forsooth, we can't rely anytime in trading because sometimes the coin that you are trading is dump and it will takes a lot of time before it pump. Hence, you should have another way of income so that while waiting for the right time to sell you have your alternative income. In trading, you must monitor your coin all the time because in any minute it might grow.
This is true, we cant really anytime rely on trading earnings because some will not pump for a long period of time which means if we rely on that one then it would really be a disaster for us. This is why diversification would be the best move because if one coin dump its price we do have still chances on hitting up on other coins for pumps which would somehow patch up it which we can able still to make money.
Man, give me a break. Life is full of ups and downs. It tests us before really giving all the blessings. Complaining will not give us any benefit. Trying out all the coins is also not supported by me. I love bitcoins and I believe they can make me rich. I am patient and ready to come over all the hurdles. Bitcoins value may dump in future but it will recover soon as it had in past.
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August 18, 2017, 08:59:33 AM
Trading the restricted procure income sans work do diligent work. On the off chance that you don't have any learning of Trading the good thing is to hold your coins in your wallet and offer them just when it's giving you great benefits
It all depends not all the time trading is reliable because it's a normal case when it has low value at times and also there are good chances in trading for some reasons especially when there are many investors. If I also my coins,I have to monitor it from time to time so that I will be able to see if I gain profits or if I will have losses. We can't blame but just control our emotion always have patience with you in terms of trading btc.
Forsooth, we can't rely anytime in trading because sometimes the coin that you are trading is dump and it will takes a lot of time before it pump. Hence, you should have another way of income so that while waiting for the right time to sell you have your alternative income. In trading, you must monitor your coin all the time because in any minute it might grow.
This is true, we cant really anytime rely on trading earnings because some will not pump for a long period of time which means if we rely on that one then it would really be a disaster for us. This is why diversification would be the best move because if one coin dump its price we do have still chances on hitting up on other coins for pumps which would somehow patch up it which we can able still to make money.
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August 18, 2017, 08:52:18 AM
Trading the restricted procure income sans work do diligent work. On the off chance that you don't have any learning of Trading the good thing is to hold your coins in your wallet and offer them just when it's giving you great benefits
It all depends not all the time trading is reliable because it's a normal case when it has low value at times and also there are good chances in trading for some reasons especially when there are many investors. If I also my coins,I have to monitor it from time to time so that I will be able to see if I gain profits or if I will have losses. We can't blame but just control our emotion always have patience with you in terms of trading btc.
Forsooth, we can't rely anytime in trading because sometimes the coin that you are trading is dump and it will takes a lot of time before it pump. Hence, you should have another way of income so that while waiting for the right time to sell you have your alternative income. In trading, you must monitor your coin all the time because in any minute it might grow.
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August 18, 2017, 08:43:21 AM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy  and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better  if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need  create this trend first.
yeah exactly the future of crypto as a whole is really bright. i think there are severe chances of some crypto currencies which have potential that they will reach to milestone in the future. i think most of crypto are just risen their price to unbelievable level and in future i am focusing on keeping some of my funds in altcoins as well. no one can predict future.
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August 18, 2017, 08:13:18 AM
Quitting too early is not an option! My advice to is you should go back and learn the basics of bitcoin trading (Available on YouTube) and master few things and start over with small budget. People tend to lose money when it comes to putting a lot of money in the market, even professional traders sometimes lose money too. In fact in business you can't just always make money, someday you can make money, someday lose money too, that is part of the learning. Cool
The important thing does not include all your money to invest in Bitcoin or altcoin.
Be sure to always have a reserve fund to cope with losses. Because we know that the price of bitcoin and altcoin is not fixed.
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August 18, 2017, 04:20:23 AM
Quitting too early is not an option! My advice to is you should go back and learn the basics of bitcoin trading (Available on YouTube) and master few things and start over with small budget. People tend to lose money when it comes to putting a lot of money in the market, even professional traders sometimes lose money too. In fact in business you can't just always make money, someday you can make money, someday lose money too, that is part of the learning. Cool
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August 18, 2017, 02:26:18 AM
very few people can trade successfully and most end up breakeven but in crypto it normally ends up that they make less than if they just hold what they originally bought.

Buy something you know is string fundamentally then monitor so you can buy at the best price
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August 18, 2017, 02:23:18 AM
Yep, just continue to hold. Trading is not just riding the hype based on fake news and trolls. It's a good idea leaving early because it looks like it's not really working on you. You can still buy bitcoin and hold them for the next year.
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August 16, 2017, 09:21:46 PM
You can hold it, but if you want to make it money you need to trade.
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August 16, 2017, 08:35:54 PM
To be honest I would like to have more information on which coins have you invested and WHY did you do it at all in exactly those coins.

And if YOU sold - I guess you did - why did you do it. As many here said, for trading to be profitable you gotta be able to hold as long as it is not profitable until... it is.

Don't ever sell your values unless you need them or the coin is almost really dead. Do some proper research on projects before getting into a coin and don't ever get to a coin without enough market cap.

And of course... as yourself said that: buy low, sell high  Wink
No matter what's gonna happen. If you have the mind to accept loss then invest into coins that are declining in value. This will get you a bigger profit if you were lucky. Sometimes trading too is similar to gambling where after certain time we cannot predict the match outcome, just can pray to be lucky.
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August 16, 2017, 08:13:02 PM
True, trading your bitcoin to alts now sucks. So much better not to trade and let your bitcoin moon itself.

I think you made a bad move, did you sell your coins while it was down during the bitcoin correction? Then you lose in the trade.. Did you know that you dont need to sell that, few months later that coins you bought will go up.

How about altcoin holders?

You tell us to hold bitcoins, this is true but only valid for bitcoin holders. Majority of us diversified our assets between different altcoins and bitcoin. Maybe the pumps were incentives for us to go for altcoin, anyway, we're in loss. When we try trading them, we undergo unexpected price results. Holding without trade makes us weak.

Hold altcoins if you like but only hold those on the top coins. Holding a wrong coin will just give you losses not profits. Choose wisely on altcoins because a lot of them are useless coins and very few have real uses.
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August 16, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
True, trading your bitcoin to alts now sucks. So much better not to trade and let your bitcoin moon itself.

I think you made a bad move, did you sell your coins while it was down during the bitcoin correction? Then you lose in the trade.. Did you know that you dont need to sell that, few months later that coins you bought will go up.

How about altcoin holders?

You tell us to hold bitcoins, this is true but only valid for bitcoin holders. Majority of us diversified our assets between different altcoins and bitcoin. Maybe the pumps were incentives for us to go for altcoin, anyway, we're in loss. When we try trading them, we undergo unexpected price results. Holding without trade makes us weak.
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