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newbie
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August 16, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
To be honest I would like to have more information on which coins have you invested and WHY did you do it at all in exactly those coins.

And if YOU sold - I guess you did - why did you do it. As many here said, for trading to be profitable you gotta be able to hold as long as it is not profitable until... it is.

Don't ever sell your values unless you need them or the coin is almost really dead. Do some proper research on projects before getting into a coin and don't ever get to a coin without enough market cap.

And of course... as yourself said that: buy low, sell high  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 255
August 16, 2017, 07:40:38 PM
True, trading your bitcoin to alts now sucks. So much better not to trade and let your bitcoin moon itself.

I think you made a bad move, did you sell your coins while it was down during the bitcoin correction? Then you lose in the trade.. Did you know that you dont need to sell that, few months later that coins you bought will go up.
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 103
August 16, 2017, 11:05:02 AM
for all altcoins : i have got a successful strategy regarding this is placing very low buy orders. About a week ago a crazy dump occurred, selling off xxxx  coin down to 25% of its value! After a short while the market recovered slightly and anyone who had low buy these low orders could easily double or triple their investment. Placing buy orders requires special care, don’t wake up when you’re far away from the market to find your buy order is suddenly higher than the current market price!

That's a very interesting suggestion. Do you think it works if we actually put orders for a dozens of coins, say at 15% lower at start of each day, so if it gets filled it gets filled. If not drop the order and repeat at 15% lower market rate the next day, you catch what you can?
full member
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August 16, 2017, 11:02:03 AM
Everyone on youtube is bumping coins they have shares in, I've stopped watching those videos long ago.

To the OP: I hear you man, can't invest anything you're not willing to lose. At the end of the day investing is gambling.

The celebrity cryto youtubers have vested interest in the coins they are given as gift  <---I strongly suspect so.
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August 16, 2017, 08:01:29 AM
Trading the restricted procure income sans work do diligent work. On the off chance that you don't have any learning of Trading the good thing is to hold your coins in your wallet and offer them just when it's giving you great benefits
It all depends not all the time trading is reliable because it's a normal case when it has low value at times and also there are good chances in trading for some reasons especially when there are many investors. If I also my coins,I have to monitor it from time to time so that I will be able to see if I gain profits or if I will have losses. We can't blame but just control our emotion always have patience with you in terms of trading btc.
sr. member
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August 16, 2017, 01:43:09 AM
Trading the restricted procure income sans work do diligent work. On the off chance that you don't have any learning of Trading the good thing is to hold your coins in your wallet and offer them just when it's giving you great benefits
full member
Activity: 406
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August 16, 2017, 01:19:11 AM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
Actually the crypto market still very potential and easy earning profit if you can spend your money buy Bitcoin and long term it, or choose an altcoin for have profit better Bitcoin if you know. The price of cryptocurrency in future can growth more but we need Bitcoin create this trend first.
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August 16, 2017, 12:15:22 AM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!
I think here you made another big mistake before the loss of your money in the trading  , because in the starting you didn't made any analysis about the history price and also didn't made any analysis that how to make investment in the coins .
Every person in the starting remain noob/newbie only but here we need to work together with better discussion and analysis that makes us useful to make trading .
According to me in the trading don't buy the coin when the price is high , buy only those coins whose price is decreasing because that types of the coins are more profitable for us in small small 20-30% profit which are at low rate .
When the price of the bitcoin get rise then at that time the best coins were to buy Digibyte , bch , eth but no one made any discussion about that coin .
So change your mentility about the coins , if you want to make profit .
jr. member
Activity: 42
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August 15, 2017, 11:45:31 PM
If it were so bad there would not be so much trading volume on the market. But I also think holding is better.
Also, statistically, holders have much better results than most traders in terms of earnings, as long as they are holding the right assets.
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 261
August 15, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
Yes, it is! Trading is really unpredictable! I am so much disappointed with my trading decision as of this time. Really did not expect that coins will go deeply to the lowest point. Need to wait patiently. Hope to finally get my luckiest time in trading.

Well emotions do really play a big role in trading. I lose a significant amount as well before because when the trade doesn't go my way, I would just think that price will not go up again and sell at a lose and after some time, price will go up again. I learned my lesson the hard way and now I have a trading plan beforehand to prepare for the battle in trading. Patience and knowledge is the key.
hero member
Activity: 679
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August 15, 2017, 11:10:50 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!


What did you do You sold a fallen price? And then when the price rises regret and you're side because you sell it lower than you buy. Then you calculate how much you earn if you do not sell. Well, that's what happened to me. So keep in mind that patience and knowledge are the most powerful trading weapon to earn a great deal.

When bitcoins began to buy many, many also repented today, because it is so high and the rich and still holding their bitcoins are likely to be millionaires. I just ask my brother not to send your emotions to keep you in mind that if you fall and lose you will increase. That's it, and you earn that trading so much to keep pace. Believe me
sr. member
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HELENA
August 15, 2017, 10:54:45 PM
Yes, it is! Trading is really unpredictable! I am so much disappointed with my trading decision as of this time. Really did not expect that coins will go deeply to the lowest point. Need to wait patiently. Hope to finally get my luckiest time in trading.
sr. member
Activity: 250
Merit: 250
August 15, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
Yeaaaah,
It sucks to trading now.
I HODL my coins, it seems BTC is looking for more solid ground to rise even higher
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August 15, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
for all altcoins : i have got a successful strategy regarding this is placing very low buy orders. About a week ago a crazy dump occurred, selling off xxxx  coin down to 25% of its value! After a short while the market recovered slightly and anyone who had low buy these low orders could easily double or triple their investment. Placing buy orders requires special care, don’t wake up when you’re far away from the market to find your buy order is suddenly higher than the current market price!

Isn´t that how one guy became a millionaire over night a while back with Ethereum?
sr. member
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August 15, 2017, 05:02:29 PM
You just invested on a bad time. Learn about the market before you invest. You haven't lost anything yet. Just hold your coins and have faith on yourself and trust bitcoin. Don't sell them yet. Just keep that in mind that you haven't suffered any kind of loss as long as you are holding it. You need to take risks when you start investing.
If you invested in bitcoin anytime then it is not a bad time i would like to say that in the end of year the price of bitcoin will reach to peak. So i would like to say that it will cross 10,000 around the world which will write in the history so i would like to say that you should not say that invested in bitcoin is a wrong time because every time is expensive and best.
sr. member
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August 15, 2017, 04:19:05 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!

You made yourself lose money by selling.

You were being greedy and thought you had to cash out or something? Why did you sell and make yourself lose though? What coin was it?

The first rule of trading is to not lose money. If you would just hold for awhile the price would likely go back up.
I can't see where it says that his lost was as a result of selling his Bitcoin and you may want to know that losing is equally as probable whether you buy or sell, what to makes any difference, is the knowledge, experience and skills a trader brings to the market and those were explicitly missing out in op's kit. Something newbies ought to take to heart is the fact that trading is an art and takes lots of learning and practicing to get used to.

It is true that in trading  if you dont have patience and long term view then it is better not to trade, because price wont always go up it will also come to low that time is the time to buy bitcoins.
hero member
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August 15, 2017, 03:44:26 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!

You made yourself lose money by selling.

You were being greedy and thought you had to cash out or something? Why did you sell and make yourself lose though? What coin was it?

The first rule of trading is to not lose money. If you would just hold for awhile the price would likely go back up.
I can't see where it says that his lost was as a result of selling his Bitcoin and you may want to know that losing is equally as probable whether you buy or sell, what to makes any difference, is the knowledge, experience and skills a trader brings to the market and those were explicitly missing out in op's kit. Something newbies ought to take to heart is the fact that trading is an art and takes lots of learning and practicing to get used to.
hero member
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August 15, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
As long as you're not losing money that you can't afford to lose don't fret too much. If you can still afford to invest then the way to go now is to get behind something you believe it. We tell this to stock Traders all the time. It is always a great foundation for Investments. Find a company, find a project, find a coin or even a development team that you feel strongly about and invest in that. Invest in ideas, invest in people.
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August 15, 2017, 01:45:46 PM
You just invested on a bad time. Learn about the market before you invest. You haven't lost anything yet. Just hold your coins and have faith on yourself and trust bitcoin. Don't sell them yet. Just keep that in mind that you haven't suffered any kind of loss as long as you are holding it. You need to take risks when you start investing.
newbie
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August 15, 2017, 01:37:35 PM
You need to have to learn to do Risk Management for your trades.
It cannot make you rich fast but it will help you survive the game, and won't make you go broke.
Going all in to one coin is like going suicide and testing your luck.


Many people actually feel that way and holding is not a bad alternative for people who doesn't really have the knack for trading. If you're not  really that comfortable with the risk you'll make with trading, you'll still be making profits with holding btcs.
Yeah, have many type trade for every people, depends the strategy of everyone will helps us have profit with it.
Don't think just only day trader can helps you get rich. Wink

Trading is really not for everybody. Good traders tell people trading is easy, but it's not. It requires very much experiment to be successful.
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