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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 05, 2019, 05:52:14 AM

Quote from: stephanirain on September 30, 2019, 05:18:39 AM

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

What you say is similar to any other sports betting. You do analysis on the team, think about environmental factors that could change the outcome and see what condition the team mentality is before you place a bet. Or some people like to get a tip from the bookies as a small investment on what fixing may be occuring in the game.

Esports are not free from cheating/fixed matches. You have to be lucky here or you will lose a lot of money betting on the team which you thought would win but was a bluff.

Tournament seems fair to and specifics team as we know are trained by their country to representing their country in the esport tournaments.
Surely this kind of betting could be a great game but still, we cannot predict who is going to win in a tournament I think what we could do is just think of the strongest team,
But surely we cannot get all of the accurate information from every team.

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Quote from: Oilacris on December 04, 2019, 03:17:18 PM

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Quote from: fortebettor on December 02, 2019, 05:55:06 AM

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

Come to think that statistics would always matter on these kind of betting just like on a typical physical sports bet.The only thing i do like is that if you do able to know the game
you are watching you would really have the fun on seeing it rather than betting randomly without even knowing on whats the game is all about.

Also, there are new rosters or switch ups of teams thats why you do need to have updated list on current line up because this is one of the factors that some made mistakes into their bets
because they arent informed nor updated.

I agree and I will add more. I think that in esporting to learn about the game, the guesser can have a much greater advantage than in traditional sport. After all, nowadays, sometimes a young man knows more and better about a given game than an old man. Such are the times when everyone can know everything and nothing. And I doubt that bookmakers can keep up with it. It's better to adjust the odds to market fluctuations and that's it. So if somebody wants to, they can profit from it.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on December 02, 2019, 11:50:46 AM

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Quote from: fortebettor on December 02, 2019, 05:55:06 AM

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

Come to think that statistics would always matter on these kind of betting just like on a typical physical sports bet.The only thing i do like is that if you do able to know the game
you are watching you would really have the fun on seeing it rather than betting randomly without even knowing on whats the game is all about.

Also, there are new rosters or switch ups of teams thats why you do need to have updated list on current line up because this is one of the factors that some made mistakes into their bets
because they arent informed nor updated.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on December 02, 2019, 11:50:46 AM

analyzing applications that support

Which applications do you mean exactly?
and what statistics, apart from the obvious one ( like h2h etc..) ??

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on December 02, 2019, 11:18:33 AM

Quote from: fortebettor on December 02, 2019, 05:55:06 AM

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

If you are trying to bet on exports betting games better you must love the game first because you may not win your bet if you just know the statistics of the team better you know the skills and the story of the player to make sure they know how to play and mind games their opponents, one of the excellent way to learn in esports is watching live streams and best play of the different teams. There are a lot of websites and analyzing applications that support their users to gain more information about the team and the players, and by this data, you use where is the safest to bet all of your coins.

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Quote from: fortebettor on December 02, 2019, 05:55:06 AM

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

I think most people consider the HLTV ranking as their main reference. I don't think those rankings are important though, they're just a simplified way to look at how teams are performing recently. Except for ESL World Ranking which determines seedings for ESL events, other rankings (such as HLTV's) is not used for anything meaningful.

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on November 29, 2019, 05:10:06 AM

Quote from: fortebettor on November 29, 2019, 02:14:36 AM

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel/Grand_Slam/3

No, I don't think any tournament use HLTV ranking system. ESL have their own ranking, you can see it here https://pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/. They use their own ranking system for seeding and later in ESL One Cologne 2020 for determining which teams got direct invite.

And is there any organization that will be considered better? Which one will be considered more important?

Or maybe it was unofficially assumed that something is more important?

For example, we have the FIFA ranking. Very often it deviates from the actual quality of the football team but it is still the main determinant.

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Quote from: fortebettor on November 29, 2019, 02:14:36 AM

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Intel/Grand_Slam/3

No, I don't think any tournament use HLTV ranking system. ESL have their own ranking, you can see it here https://pro.eslgaming.com/worldranking/csgo/. They use their own ranking system for seeding and later in ESL One Cologne 2020 for determining which teams got direct invite.

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on November 14, 2019, 10:55:01 AM

Money isn't the only thing that matter especially for a big team like Astralis. As I said, it matters because most of the top teams attend the event, it is part of the Intel Grand Slam circuit, offering a direct invite to next year IEM Katowice, and there are many more reasons. It's more than just money.

You're right, in fact.

Just now tell me what Intel Grand Slam is - a lot of different information on the web, a lot of tournaments. Even more confusion.

It's where everything is described in the simplest way possible? And shouldn't it be so that the victory of the previous edition in e.g. IEM Katowicie should have a guaranteed place next year and so?

Why is it so confusing? Which rankings count and which ones don't? For example, the hltv ranking - is it taken into consideration in any tournaments?

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Quote from: fortebettor on November 14, 2019, 06:39:04 AM

"Only" $100,000 in prizes for first place.
Now it's not much for Astralis

Money isn't the only thing that matter especially for a big team like Astralis. As I said, it matters because most of the top teams attend the event, it is part of the Intel Grand Slam circuit, offering a direct invite to next year IEM Katowice, and there are many more reasons. It's more than just money.

Quote from: fortebettor on November 14, 2019, 06:39:04 AM

In Katowice in a few months there is 2.5 more for the best team

Exactly, that's why events like Malmo are important even though the money prize is only $100,000 for the first place.

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on November 10, 2019, 09:48:24 AM

Quote from: tumis on November 10, 2019, 07:00:49 AM

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

DH Malmo was obviously a top tier event: attended by most top 10 with a direct invite to Katowice 2020 for the champion. Astralis is trying to reclaim the #1 spot after missing in the first half of 2019 by only attending Blast Pro Series (lol). They're currently looking primed to keep that spot right now, judging by their performance in IEM Beijing, but the scene is getting even more competitive as teams like Fnatic, FaZe, and 100Thieves are keeping up.

hmn

"Only" $100,000 in prizes for first place.
Now it's not much for Astralis

In Katowice in a few months there is 2.5 more for the best team

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Quote from: tumis on November 10, 2019, 07:00:49 AM

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

DH Malmo was obviously a top tier event: attended by most top 10 with a direct invite to Katowice 2020 for the champion. Astralis is trying to reclaim the #1 spot after missing in the first half of 2019 by only attending Blast Pro Series (lol). They're currently looking primed to keep that spot right now, judging by their performance in IEM Beijing, but the scene is getting even more competitive as teams like Fnatic, FaZe, and 100Thieves are keeping up.

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Quote from: CodyAlfaridzi on September 30, 2019, 10:43:01 PM

Quote from: leowonderful on September 29, 2019, 08:43:01 AM

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

Me too. I'm actively betting on big tournament matches. Betting on the underdog is favorable especially on Best-of-one (BO1) matches. In a BO1, upsets often happen due to the nature of the game itself. A full-eco pistol can defeat full buy, a misplaced utility grenade can ruin the whole round, these sorts of things that make the game exciting to watch.

Looking forward to the first round of Dreamhack Masters Malmo. It's a BO1 and I already have some bets placed. Nice odds on some matches. I also have made two outright bets on Astralis and EG to win the tournament. Let's see how it'll turn out.

Do you think that for a team like Astralis such a tournament in Malmo is very important ?

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Quote from: stephanirain on September 30, 2019, 05:18:39 AM

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

What you say is similar to any other sports betting. You do analysis on the team, think about environmental factors that could change the outcome and see what condition the team mentality is before you place a bet. Or some people like to get a tip from the bookies as a small investment on what fixing may be occuring in the game.

Esports are not free from cheating/fixed matches. You have to be lucky here or you will lose a lot of money betting on the team which you thought would win but was a bluff.

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Quote from: leowonderful on September 29, 2019, 08:43:01 AM

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

Me too. I'm actively betting on big tournament matches. Betting on the underdog is favorable especially on Best-of-one (BO1) matches. In a BO1, upsets often happen due to the nature of the game itself. A full-eco pistol can defeat full buy, a misplaced utility grenade can ruin the whole round, these sorts of things that make the game exciting to watch.

Looking forward to the first round of Dreamhack Masters Malmo. It's a BO1 and I already have some bets placed. Nice odds on some matches. I also have made two outright bets on Astralis and EG to win the tournament. Let's see how it'll turn out.

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Quote from: marcuslong on September 29, 2019, 01:25:01 AM

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting.

Yeah also I don’t believe in tricks or tips unless the game was fix(issues that going for long time now in sport games)

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I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why?

I love the thrill when underdog is our bet because people mostly give sympathy to the lower profile than the high one so we tend to bet or favor to the underdog

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Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Well in this we are different because I don’t really want take advantage of the situation instead I only want to feel the thrill of almost a loser 😂

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Quote from: marcuslong on September 29, 2019, 01:25:01 AM

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Sometimes I do that too, betting on underdogs doesn't guarantee profit but it's worth risk taking. I only do this if I see that the opponent is beatable by the underdog and depends on the roster/players arrangement too.

That plays an important factor whenever we bet with e-sports. There's always a catch when I bet and it's also thrilling whenever I watch those games especially with Dota 2 for which the majors and minors are at hand. And right now, I'm starting to follow csgo games.

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Quote from: tumis on December 20, 2018, 03:28:58 AM

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

There are a lot of stats you can use like the gaming history of the players but in the end, it is gambling. Some people ignore those stats because the team if their favorite. Some bet on this specific team because they think the team has stronger line up than their opponent. Esports betting is difficult because either team could "comeback" and take the lead any time during the game.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on September 29, 2019, 03:57:21 AM

How has that turned out to be so far? I think on average only 2 of 10 situations that underdogs in any fixture wins. I haven't tried betting that that kinda risk before. It's more like throwing money away without the slightest hope of getting it back.

For me, I just like toying with lower risk. I even double chance of the top dogs to win just to be on the safer side. Well, My success rate has improved significantly even if the rewards aren't much.

Betting on the underdog only really works out if there's a legitimate chance that the underdog could win based on extremely recent performance or one or more of the players on the overdog team are sick and replaced by a coach or something of the sort. I've won plenty of times betting on the underdog of a Counter-Strike match based on coaches subbing in for players on a roster that can't play, though I also mostly bet on the overdog because most of the time it just makes sense to do so. It's indeed relatively high risk, but one win can net you extremely high rewards as well.

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Quote from: marcuslong on September 29, 2019, 01:25:01 AM

I don't think so that there's a trick in esports betting. I'm always betting in underdog team, that can go along with the game play of the other team. Why? Because I like to take the greater risk to get high return.

Same ideology, I prefer risking on lower odds than higher because of the high return that I can get. Of course, having research is a must, If I see the potential on the underdogs I will trust it and hoping they will win the game.

There are too many games that make an upset by defeating by underdogs and sometimes underdogs win the whole tournament. For example the TNC on WESG 2018 tournament, TNC got the biggest upset on the whole Dota 2 tournaments.

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