Topic: Tricks and tips for esports betting - page 3. (Read 25258 times)
It all looks beautiful on paper unfortunately the reality is not so pink. These organizations have practically no tools to be able to effectively fight against fraudulent esports games. Let's hope that this changes
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https://www.esportsintegrity.com/
https://esic.gg/
Everything is on the page, a lot of reading
https://www.esportsintegrity.com/
https://esic.gg/
Everything is on the page, a lot of reading
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We were established in 2016 to take responsibility for disruption prevention investigation and prosecution of all forms of cheating in esports, including, but not limited to, match manipulation and doping,
The Mission of ESIC is to be the recognised guardian of the integrity of esports and to take responsibility for disruption, prevention, investigation and prosecution of all forms of cheating, including, but not limited to, match manipulation and doping.
ESIC exists to unite the industry under the shared values and visions essential to fight against corruption in any form. These values form the basis of the ESIC Program of Integrity measures. Each commission member has bought into these core principles so that, whilst many Members may be in competition with each other commercially, they are as one when it comes to protecting the sport. Each Member has signed their commitment to these Principles and ESIC will be diligent in making their regulatory ambitions for the sport a reality through the Codes and Procedures set out in its Program.
WHAT WE DO
The Esports Integrity Commission works with esports stakeholders to protect the integrity of esports competition.
We are a not-for-profit members’ association and we can help you, whether you’re a tournament organiser, game developer, esports league or betting operator offering esports – join us!
ESIC’s PRINCIPLES
ESIC believes in a strong and vibrant global sport in which all players, professional and amateur, and all industry stakeholders can build a viable and successful career and industry in a safe, competitive and rewarding environment.
ESIC’s Principles cover six fundamental areas and give rise to required standards and structures which are vital for the accelerated future success of Esports. ESIC’s Principles are fair, reasonable and aspirational and are aimed at creating a coherent underlying philosophy for all stakeholders.
They will guide ESIC’s future activity and they will act as a set of benchmarks to which ESIC will be held accountable and will seek to hold the sport and its key stakeholders accountable. Most importantly, each Member of ESIC must agree to and enforce these Principles in their own part of the Esports industry as appropriate to the sector they occupy for the overall good of the sport.
Integrity and Respect
ESIC will not tolerate cheating or abuse of any kind. All Participants must have respect for Officials, respect for opponents and respect for the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the sport.
Fair Process
ESIC is committed to principles of natural justice and fair process and will ensure that any procedure adopted to implement Codes, Rules and Regulations is balanced, proportionate and fair to all parties.
Implementation, Education and Enforcement in Standardised Codes
ESIC Members recognise the value and inherent clarity and fairness in implementing standardised (not necessarily identical), integrity Codes, Policies, Rules and Regulations across the whole of Esports. All stakeholders recognise that education is the best method of deterring corrupt activity and are committed to a robust and comprehensive education programme.
Recognition of sanctions
ESIC Members are committed to recognising and enforcing the sanctions imposed on any person where ESIC or another Member of ESIC has imposed such sanction using a standard ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.
Sharing of information
ESIC Members agree that sharing of intelligence and information will enhance the fight against cheating and corruption and they will support ESIC’s intelligence gathering and investigatory function.
Confidentiality
ESIC Members are committed to the highest standards of confidentiality in dealing with and communicating about integrity issues, especially where individuals are named and where unsubstantiated allegations can cause great damage. Consequently, ESIC and its Members will only make public statements regarding integrity issues in accordance with the ESIC Codes, Rules and Regulations and will use their best endeavours to protect the confidentiality of all parties to allegations and investigations unless and until such party has been found guilty of an offence under an ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.
The Mission of ESIC is to be the recognised guardian of the integrity of esports and to take responsibility for disruption, prevention, investigation and prosecution of all forms of cheating, including, but not limited to, match manipulation and doping.
ESIC exists to unite the industry under the shared values and visions essential to fight against corruption in any form. These values form the basis of the ESIC Program of Integrity measures. Each commission member has bought into these core principles so that, whilst many Members may be in competition with each other commercially, they are as one when it comes to protecting the sport. Each Member has signed their commitment to these Principles and ESIC will be diligent in making their regulatory ambitions for the sport a reality through the Codes and Procedures set out in its Program.
WHAT WE DO
The Esports Integrity Commission works with esports stakeholders to protect the integrity of esports competition.
We are a not-for-profit members’ association and we can help you, whether you’re a tournament organiser, game developer, esports league or betting operator offering esports – join us!
ESIC’s PRINCIPLES
ESIC believes in a strong and vibrant global sport in which all players, professional and amateur, and all industry stakeholders can build a viable and successful career and industry in a safe, competitive and rewarding environment.
ESIC’s Principles cover six fundamental areas and give rise to required standards and structures which are vital for the accelerated future success of Esports. ESIC’s Principles are fair, reasonable and aspirational and are aimed at creating a coherent underlying philosophy for all stakeholders.
They will guide ESIC’s future activity and they will act as a set of benchmarks to which ESIC will be held accountable and will seek to hold the sport and its key stakeholders accountable. Most importantly, each Member of ESIC must agree to and enforce these Principles in their own part of the Esports industry as appropriate to the sector they occupy for the overall good of the sport.
Integrity and Respect
ESIC will not tolerate cheating or abuse of any kind. All Participants must have respect for Officials, respect for opponents and respect for the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the sport.
Fair Process
ESIC is committed to principles of natural justice and fair process and will ensure that any procedure adopted to implement Codes, Rules and Regulations is balanced, proportionate and fair to all parties.
Implementation, Education and Enforcement in Standardised Codes
ESIC Members recognise the value and inherent clarity and fairness in implementing standardised (not necessarily identical), integrity Codes, Policies, Rules and Regulations across the whole of Esports. All stakeholders recognise that education is the best method of deterring corrupt activity and are committed to a robust and comprehensive education programme.
Recognition of sanctions
ESIC Members are committed to recognising and enforcing the sanctions imposed on any person where ESIC or another Member of ESIC has imposed such sanction using a standard ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.
Sharing of information
ESIC Members agree that sharing of intelligence and information will enhance the fight against cheating and corruption and they will support ESIC’s intelligence gathering and investigatory function.
Confidentiality
ESIC Members are committed to the highest standards of confidentiality in dealing with and communicating about integrity issues, especially where individuals are named and where unsubstantiated allegations can cause great damage. Consequently, ESIC and its Members will only make public statements regarding integrity issues in accordance with the ESIC Codes, Rules and Regulations and will use their best endeavours to protect the confidentiality of all parties to allegations and investigations unless and until such party has been found guilty of an offence under an ESIC Code, Policy, Rule or Regulation.
In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.
That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing
https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/
Well as I understand since the middle of 2016 there are some kind of authorities and governance like the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) which take the issue very seriously and closely monitor and investigate on all official competitions.
How do they work?
I mean, are there any regular checks?
How can this be controlled, especially in cases of tournaments completely online?
It is physically unrealistic, isn't it?
In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.
That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing
https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/
Well as I understand since the middle of 2016 there are some kind of authorities and governance like the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) which take the issue very seriously and closely monitor and investigate on all official competitions.
There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players
Even the virus is spreading the Dota 2 community still continue the major battle and they do this because they want to bring fun to the players but they do this on LAN games only or in the lobby but some of the players is not allowed to travel and connect to the other server and play with their teams so there is a lot of standing on the game but still, they need to adjust because the upcoming international is the thing they need to earn and some of the team does not have direct invited and they need to earn a lot of points to enter into the international 10 so they need to keep it up even they are incomplete.
And I think that's mainly why Dota 2 is becoming less and less popular every year and unfortunately everything indicates that this game will die a natural death. But maybe it's better for the whole e-sport?
There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players
Even the virus is spreading the Dota 2 community still continue the major battle and they do this because they want to bring fun to the players but they do this on LAN games only or in the lobby but some of the players is not allowed to travel and connect to the other server and play with their teams so there is a lot of standing on the game but still, they need to adjust because the upcoming international is the thing they need to earn and some of the team does not have direct invited and they need to earn a lot of points to enter into the international 10 so they need to keep it up even they are incomplete.
New cases of a match set up in leagues with a prize pool exceeding $100,000. I don't know if it's confirmed, but how would I avoid most games in Russia... https://esportsobserver.com/fixed-leagues-with-a-big-prize-pool
There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players
Okay, now tell me, how do they get to this? after all, this cheater will always be one step smarter, and I can't imagine it's even 50% detectable. How many matches like this are actually caught? Detected ? 10 - 20% max ? Generally we do not know.
Severe punishment ? I don't think you know what kind of money can be behind this harsh punishment... It may not even be half a game...
In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.
That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing
https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/
This is more like cryptocurrency/stock/forex trading. If things are manipulated in a bad way (way that aims to make trading very difficult for skilled or many traders) intentionally, your analytical skills and hard work would be in vain unless you understand how the manipulations work.
Skillful bettors with sufficient information and/or "talents" could do well in betting. One of my fears with having sufficient information is that it would be abused if it gets into the wrong hands. It could be used for sophisticated match fixing, manipulation etc
There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
Valve stepped down and is giving a very tough sanction for those players and teams that will be proven to be involved with a fix match. They have already made a sample for those players that did it in the past and they're feeling sorry about it because Valve events are the biggest prize pool tournaments that they can no longer participant.Sample of teams and players that were banned by Valve.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players
In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.
That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing
https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/
In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.
And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.
Sometimes you can follow ex-professional eSports player on their stream/any other media since they often bet on eSports and usually are right more often than regular users.
This is a good idea of the question only if you know such if so give me instagram profiles of them . It's hard for me to imagine - unless you mean coaches? But they don't share arcane knowledge, but rather they only make a buzz around their own team. After all, they do not care that the rival knows exactly their tactics, compositions, etc. I think it's hard to find someone who ended his career as a player and then regularly lived the stage by keeping a profile on Twitter. I think such a person has much more interesting things to do.
Sometimes you can follow ex-professional eSports player on their stream/any other media since they often bet on eSports and usually are right more often than regular users.
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
It is very easy to win a parlay in League of Legends betting.
Usually, the favorites are taking the wins but this doesn't provide good odds to the gamblers. You can make decent profits only if you gamble big portions of money to a win of a team.
What a nonsense.
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
It is very easy to win a parlay in League of Legends betting.
Usually, the favorites are taking the wins but this doesn't provide good odds to the gamblers. You can make decent profits only if you gamble big portions of money to a win of a team.
In principle, the rules are the same as for any sport. Never play something you don't know. Look for information wherever possible. Do not play understated. I always have a dozen or so accounts with bookmakers if you want to win only this way you have any chance.
People are generally overly confident in their knowledge and skills. They tend to overestimate its quality and scope, underestimate the risks and over-confidence in their own control of processes. It has also been observed that people become overconfident, especially when they have previously achieved rapid success in a new field.
Betting players often make cognitive mistakes when making assumptions, drawing conclusions or looking for information about the match they want to bet on. Many of these mistakes can be avoided, but you have to be aware that they can occur.
You need to know psychology - the better the less... you will lose. Always analyze. Every time you lose, the more so. Is it worth taking an interest?
Errors in risk assessment - actual human behaviour in the face of risk. It takes into account empirical data on decision making in conditions of uncertainty. It explains how and why human behaviour is often irrational and even inconsistent.
Crowd psychology e.g. the so-called Sheep's Rush
Sheep's rush is probably the most well-known and psychologically related behavior of the crowd. The effect of sheep's shoot is when an individual makes decisions taking into account the decisions of other people.
For example, if there are strong falls in odds, I will bet too, because there is probably some significant information. This often results in an avalanche effect, the result of which is not always in line with the player's expectations. If there is a sharp drop in odds during betting trading, the ideal time is to join in at the beginning and "quit" when the trend starts to reverse.
And this is just the beginning ..
People are generally overly confident in their knowledge and skills. They tend to overestimate its quality and scope, underestimate the risks and over-confidence in their own control of processes. It has also been observed that people become overconfident, especially when they have previously achieved rapid success in a new field.
Betting players often make cognitive mistakes when making assumptions, drawing conclusions or looking for information about the match they want to bet on. Many of these mistakes can be avoided, but you have to be aware that they can occur.
You need to know psychology - the better the less... you will lose. Always analyze. Every time you lose, the more so. Is it worth taking an interest?
- Wrong assumptions.
- Confirmation effect
- Negligence
- Peak-end principle
- Authority effect
- Contrast effect
- A halo effect
- Anchorage effect
Errors in risk assessment - actual human behaviour in the face of risk. It takes into account empirical data on decision making in conditions of uncertainty. It explains how and why human behaviour is often irrational and even inconsistent.
Crowd psychology e.g. the so-called Sheep's Rush
Sheep's rush is probably the most well-known and psychologically related behavior of the crowd. The effect of sheep's shoot is when an individual makes decisions taking into account the decisions of other people.
For example, if there are strong falls in odds, I will bet too, because there is probably some significant information. This often results in an avalanche effect, the result of which is not always in line with the player's expectations. If there is a sharp drop in odds during betting trading, the ideal time is to join in at the beginning and "quit" when the trend starts to reverse.
And this is just the beginning ..
Discussions with an insider is a interesting group and i would like to take part of it
You already belong to some group? There were once memosbets, among others, but not only
Discussions with an insider is a interesting group and i would like to take part of it, also share my knowledge to some sports games. Insiders are really an asset especially if they give valuable information such as the teams who are likely to win and what teams is not in a perfect shape or lacking key members.
Even though, there's an internet to find out this information, you can only dig small pieces.
Even though, there's an internet to find out this information, you can only dig small pieces.
Hint 1
Only play big tournaments and matches in leagues with a pot of over $100,000. Every lesser known tournament is a risk of fixed matches (many case like russian dota) and so you lose.
Hint 2
Choose one game, only the one you feel better in. You need to know the game very well and be on the go. Unfortunately, it takes a long time. The better you know the game, the better you can predict the results.
Hint 3
Analyze the statistics of the teams you bet on. Concentrate on the analysis of players with form. Compare the team leaders and the weakest links.
Hint 4
Choose games that are popular because the teams have a lot of fans and where the odds can only be based on that. Analyze whether the odds really reflect form or whether they are a trend that is not based on a team's real chances of winning.
Only play big tournaments and matches in leagues with a pot of over $100,000. Every lesser known tournament is a risk of fixed matches (many case like russian dota) and so you lose.
Hint 2
Choose one game, only the one you feel better in. You need to know the game very well and be on the go. Unfortunately, it takes a long time. The better you know the game, the better you can predict the results.
Hint 3
Analyze the statistics of the teams you bet on. Concentrate on the analysis of players with form. Compare the team leaders and the weakest links.
Hint 4
Choose games that are popular because the teams have a lot of fans and where the odds can only be based on that. Analyze whether the odds really reflect form or whether they are a trend that is not based on a team's real chances of winning.
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