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March 16, 2020, 07:12:45 AM
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

I think that's definitely the best approach. My observations show that it's also worth following the profiles of all the players on the twitter of the teams we bet most often. It's also worth to follow the coaches and owners of organization. Often it is possible to deduce from the context itself what approach to the match the team will have. Of course there is not much of it but it will change.

It's also worth to keep an eye on the game changes. It is known that in the League of Legends, for example, the game changes a lot with each subsequent patch (new meta). Knowing the exact style of play of 1-2 teams in the league it is easy to bet if the new finish line is good for them or not. And especially at the beginning of the first matches the bettor has a lot of room for improvement. When the statistics are not important yet and we don't have results. Then the strongest weapon is what we have. That is to say, our own obstinacy and logical conclusions we can reach.

I've also noticed another tendency. Some of the odds are very unevenly divided favouring one team to the limit, which is a bookmakers' mistake and should be used. Bookmakers often set odds on the basis of popularity as the players play and those who often play only on the basis of their likes or completely amateurishly. The same is true of traditional football and other sports. Never play Liverpool with weakest team in preamier leauge per 1.12 or somethink like that
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March 07, 2020, 10:19:23 AM
And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now Huh?

The real problem was inequality, so the game was growing and money was circulating via games bet and industry to support those bettors.   However at this time the players themselves were being left nonsalaried and yet they invest alot of time into the regular gameplay and eventually game results that are part of the betting scene.    It was a kind of mistake that was visited on the players in massive consequences for choosing the easier path of throwing games.  If they had more patience and waited for proper revenue streams to establish and teams with regular pay they would have possibly made a million by now.  Instead they gained something like 20k tops, a quick buck.

Wait, basically I get interested in this thread you can write exactly what cases you mean ? I know that many small clubs didn't pay their players and that there was a lot of dishonesty but when it comes to big organizations you know some cases in 2019 - 2018 ? If so, give me the details and source of information.


I always bet in Esports and Sports gambling games, because they're the only the games that uses intelligence, analysis besides casino games like poker not unlike most games that's based only in luck and intuition. And if you're really familiar with the team and their strategy and behaviour you might even have a winning streak that's the difference between calculated games and randomness cause random games sometimes you win sometimes you loss a lot.

Also these betting sites offers ridiculous jackpot prices like Freebitco where you can win a car and Kawbet where you can win 7BTC.

It's funny when someone who advertises... casino and betting says that. What kind of intelligence? What are you talking about? So you're stupid - why do you take bets but no longer place them yourself?? Why is it your business? Please don't write than lies...
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legendary
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March 06, 2020, 04:00:38 PM
And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now Huh?

The real problem was inequality, so the game was growing and money was circulating via games bet and industry to support those bettors.   However at this time the players themselves were being left nonsalaried and yet they invest alot of time into the regular gameplay and eventually game results that are part of the betting scene.    It was a kind of mistake that was visited on the players in massive consequences for choosing the easier path of throwing games.  If they had more patience and waited for proper revenue streams to establish and teams with regular pay they would have possibly made a million by now.  Instead they gained something like 20k tops, a quick buck.
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March 06, 2020, 07:28:30 AM
I always bet in Esports and Sports gambling games, because they're the only the games that uses intelligence, analysis besides casino games like poker not unlike most games that's based only in luck and intuition. And if you're really familiar with the team and their strategy and behaviour you might even have a winning streak that's the difference between calculated games and randomness cause random games sometimes you win sometimes you loss a lot.

Also these betting sites offers ridiculous jackpot prices like Freebitco where you can win a car and Kawbet where you can win 7BTC.
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March 06, 2020, 05:39:24 AM
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

Knowing well the game and the players ain't enough to make an easy bet. You have to realize, you're not the only person who knows the game and player very well plus the odds are making it more difficult to choose a betting option. Same goes to sports betting, me myself is a fan of NBA and I regularly have updates to the players status every game, yet it's still hard to choose a bet and win it.

If you don't mind sharing your winning bets and basic tutorial on howeasy for you to win a bet?
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March 06, 2020, 04:38:26 AM
The problem is that you don't know if these "news" are true and how true they are. And even if it is true, the bookmaker knows it anyway.

I think that in time there will be more tools and statistics to take a closer look at each game from the player's side and not just by comparing the results and form of the players.
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February 29, 2020, 05:17:14 PM
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
Not at all and just like on typical sports we've known even how favorite on a certain team it isnt a guaranteed thing for you to win yet there are still upsets
that do happen along the way the only thing differs here is that the no. of participants are just few which means you do only have to select a few of them
not like on sports ex. NBA where there are lots to choose from which would really give out confusion from time to time but overall the key on winning is to analyze
things when it comes to stats and also be wary of news that do happens along the way.
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February 29, 2020, 03:30:38 PM
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Do I know the gamers & pro player better? But what exactly? I only have statistics - and reallty poor stats only. In football, I also have statistics? - but much much more stats.. And that much more accurate? so plus for a traditional sport.

What do I have in esports ? The results. The actual form. But I have nothing else. I don't know how a player will play in the next game. Even as in the previous one, he was in great shape. It comes out so daytime that nothing comes out. And even though Astralis was great in previous matches now that they play with NaVi they just don't go. They get such a beating like little kids. It's like they forgot how to play. Or is it the pressure? Or maybe it's the lack of supporters ? Or maybe it's just - the disposition of the day and that's it.

But now the question is. How do you know the day's disposition? Even if you're close, you don't know it, let alone when you're browsing the Internet and considering yourself a connoisseur...

Sad truth.
sr. member
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February 19, 2020, 06:10:06 PM
Well, for me esports betting is really easy and you have a higher percentage of winning. Being an avid fan of a certain game that you'll be betting in, for example, Dota 2 or League Of Legends you basically have the edge in winning because you know who is the players involved in each team.
The only tip that I'll be giving to you is just to know what game and the team you are betting in and surely you will earn tons of money.
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February 19, 2020, 05:54:53 PM
Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.
And what does it really come down to? Up to the amount of the prize pool, that is, the money ? Because if not, what ?

And if the only factor is the amount of the prize pool and the prestige, then there is a risk of fraudulent play, a match seller. After all, there were such cases many years ago. So, what is it now Huh?
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February 11, 2020, 06:20:18 AM

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Okay, but there's the random factor you're talking about again. If it's a lot to choose the hero himself, you don't know how the draft will go. You don't know what composition the team will play or if it will be good. You're only gonna choose good picks or not. Later on you can play live but it's not the same because the odds are much lower. So what if there are many factors if we can't use them anyway because they are just random and depend on many things.
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February 10, 2020, 05:04:12 PM

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

That's why I prefer to stick with more basic E-sports titles where it's possible to work exactly what's going to happen.

CS:GO is definitely one of the easier ones to get into since the game is so basic. But DOTA and StarCraft have more going on, so there's more markets to bet on.
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February 10, 2020, 04:57:48 PM

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.
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February 10, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.

Some games obviously aren't 50/50, so I don't know why you would even say that.

Sometimes a team manages to get a couple fluke wins in a row and ends up in the finals. Sometimes players get substituted etc.

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.
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February 10, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports.

Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners.

Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting.


You're right, but just a little bit. You're talking about players that we seem to know who's working with whom and how. Who else is he supposed to play with? What do you compare it with? After all, we know that a given player always plays with a given player if there are no transfers, so basically nothing changes.

And you can't predict a drop in form or a bad day. There is little room for chance in escort. That's a fact. But it's not like traditional e-sport.

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February 10, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.
These people have to make posts and they do it even when they have no knowledge about e-sports.

Let me tell you something about e-sports and why it is the future of gambling probably. There are players who we love and follow for example being a big CS:GO fan I love to follow guys like s1mple and Dupreeh who are for me the best players in CS:GO and therefore if we have knowledge about these players and we know which roster they are working with, it makes much easier to pick winners.

Moreover as we also play these games, it gives an amazing feeling because we can think of ourself what we would do in such situations, the clutches by our favorite players and the epic moments which unfortunately don't exist in real life sports betting.
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February 10, 2020, 02:00:27 PM
I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.
We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament.

Miracles happen, do they?

Saying that nothing can be done with fixed matches is funny.

There are possibilities that anything can be done. Also, suppose that well in x years' time, every esports gamer can be observed 24 hours a day with a chip, etc., with your own consent.

Unreal Huh But it would be possible ?
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February 10, 2020, 01:58:54 PM
And you guys don't think there aren't controversies on many sports? Mostly I am into DOTA2 betting. DOTA2 keeps breaking records yearly and its stake are even bigger than many other sports. I'd been a follower of many sports thru the years, especially during my early 20s. Boxing, basketball, soccer, mma and many more. I can say both are nearly the same. There are far more controversies on sports than e-sports I can say. Both have the same consequences if in case of losses. You think a bad NBA team cannot win against power house teams? You think Juventus can't lose to Verona? This is a very complicated issue and this won't end. So I would rather stop comparing them.     
Controversies have always been there and in fact I remember there was a big controversy where some players were actually mining bitcoins in their PC that they were supposed to play games Grin Grin.

Now coming back to point, I am huge follower of League of Legends and my personal favorite of all time is - Faker the movement god!

E-sports to me has a huge future because the audience is already incredible in countries like Korea and China and it just needs more attention globally. Anyone who does not watch e-sports all I can say is that you are missing some serious fun.
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February 10, 2020, 12:55:59 PM
In order to win in esports betting, it requires good fundamental analysis and researching skills. The player must aware about how the game works and also the traits of every team. I usually betting in Dota 2 and I often win because I always identifying the characteristics and also the level of the team plays of every team. Esports is not just game of luck, skills are also matter so we should bet carefully.
There is a big element of teamwork too, I mean there are teams who play such amazing teamwork and defeat individual geniuses. I can give you the example of recent win of Mousesports over Navi (Natus Vincere) where we all know guys like Simple, Electronic are massive giants but they failed when it came down to teamwork as we can see that Simple would get some kills but lack support from others. Kerrigan had a bad 1st map but their team still won because he as a leader did well and managed to hide personal bad timing on the game.

I am a big fan of esports and personally feel like the industry still needs a lot of exposure though and then with more exposure comes the problem of match-fixing and other problems.

By the way guys here is Navi vs Mouse I was talking about - https://www.hltv.org/matches/2339164/mousesports-vs-natus-vincere-ice-challenge-2020
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February 10, 2020, 11:27:42 AM
I just don't understand why some people can say that esports betting aren't worth it since it looks like all the games and matches are all 50/50. These words can only came to those that do not follow an esport game.

For me, there is no difference between esports betting and sports betting when it comes to chances of winning. Betting odds aren't just made in order to fail. Esports betting is a growing market.
Well, at least in my experience, match fixing is still said to be an issue with e-Sports. TO be honest, there is a disproportionate amount of matches for how low the stakes can be and how small some teams are. It might seem too intriguing to some new players that their team is now playing on matches that can be bet on, and there have been report sof players fixing their own matches to bet on them... This is easier to be done in esports than other events. Especially so since the rewards for a tournament can be at the level of a per-match salary for real-world sports. In such cases fixing your match might even be more profitable. Also easier to hide since it's a virtual environment.
We can't do anything about match-fixing because it is what it is for them to bracket the esports team, I think that is unfortunate for some teams to fight a recent champion on the tournament within their brackets. As a better, it would be a safe decision if you bet on the highest probability team that would win a certain game but sometimes upset happens and some underdogs win unexpectedly. Like TNC who did the biggest upset on Dota history as defeating the biggest team on the tournament.

Miracles happen, do they?
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