Tricks and tips for esports betting - page 6.

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Quote from: tumis on December 20, 2018, 04:28:58 AM

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

I think it's a pretty good idea, such as more serious consideration and analysis like here on esports bettings talks but I'm talking about restricted discussions in the restricted area. Insiders and key information. Do you know any other sources of this kind or somethink for reading like blogosphere gaming information and news here ?

I feel the only trick to be succesful in sports betting is to follow the sports you are betting in with passion. Know pre game and post game information which are readily available on expert review channels on television and online. There are sites to bet in sports which also provide post match analysis which can help you with upcoming game and make your move. You can also follow blogs and forums which provide such expert reviews and opinions.

Do you know of any other similar sites like https://esporttalk.org with closed group ? . Best for different games like Counter Strike, League of legends, Dota but also Overwatch but also other new games? Do the new games have a chance to break through at all ? or is CS:GO the main one ?

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Quote from: Yatsan on January 15, 2020, 04:01:33 PM

I have to disagree on you, fixing an Esport game is way harder to do than the other games since it will not only need a single person to fixed the game but the whole team, whole brand of the team including their sponsors.

How can we not think of the possibility that the full team is behind the scenes rigging the match? They just need to play it one round to get their prize from the bookie, so they can have it all planned out. Like a top team losing a specific round in a certain match but they will win the match because the have not fixed the other rounds of that match. Certainly it can be that they are honest and not willing to do such things.

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Fixing a game is not a one man job, this already tells us that Esports scene is authentic and true to its passion.
I know several players who cheated on international stage, Esports is not rigged and they kicked them out.

You may think that I am trying to force my opinion here but is it not true that youtubers and gamers have their complete career based on the companies that sponsor them? They are the mafia here who fix the matches and if you double cross them then their entire career is at risk. I am sure you are getting the point here. Wink

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on January 15, 2020, 05:27:37 PM

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

This is precisely why I can never bet on esports. I'm not saying it's full of cheats or anything but I've heard stories from lower levels and seen myself in my country some of the local tournaments, where it's just full of deals and backdoor agreements.

Good to ban people for life from cheating. I absolutely hate it.

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Quote from: St4yInTh3D4rk on December 21, 2018, 02:00:41 PM

Quote from: tumis on December 20, 2018, 04:28:58 AM

I'll ask such a banal question (yes, is there already a rule in this forum)

Do you know how to make money by betting Esports? Do you have any good ways (in your opinions) to make money? Or maybe only intuition , current form, players' morale?

The tip to win in the sport betting is deep analysis about the players and squad which may give an idea about winner but not for sure.Institution based betting may not be fit for sport betting since it is strategy based we need to decide what will happen while the matches are going.

Guaranteed way for making money in the sport betting is match fixing but it is illegal to do.

A matter of knowing the capabilities of the players you would bet into is a must. Betting on the team just because the majority told you to do so, would more likely result to regrets because in such aspect, it will all be because of the hype. Watching their previous games will be more advantageous than to listen to the majority and to decide for your own. On the other hand, in order to make it more profitable, be mindful of how much you would bet. If you are confident enough, betting all of your money still is not advisable because things could go possibly wrong. Bottomline is decision-making, analysis, and self control with regards to the bet.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 15, 2020, 10:36:02 PM

Quote from: TitanGEL on January 15, 2020, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: fravia on January 15, 2020, 06:02:57 PM

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

even if he bet like in a toss coin yet this is gambling yet?so there will
always a chance to win of lose and that is the way how gambling works,
but that is also indeed that we can have a big chance of winning if we
knew the team well because you can analyze what is the outcome of
each game(but of course those are only by chance and not assurance)
also this is the reason why many gamblers now are diverting their habit
from other games to SportsBetting and i am also one of those.

It is one thing to bet with analysis and it is another to just make a bet without knowing anything. Yes, this is gambling and we will still end up on either the winning or the losing side but it definitely helps if you know what you are betting.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on January 15, 2020, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: fravia on January 15, 2020, 06:02:57 PM

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

You right , so if we know what game and what team will we bets on its easy
And sometime we have can take a good market odds when machine just predict with underdog match

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 15, 2020, 10:36:02 PM

Quote from: TitanGEL on January 15, 2020, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: fravia on January 15, 2020, 06:02:57 PM

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

even if he bet like in a toss coin yet this is gambling yet?so there will
always a chance to win of lose and that is the way how gambling works,
but that is also indeed that we can have a big chance of winning if we
knew the team well because you can analyze what is the outcome of
each game(but of course those are only by chance and not assurance)
also this is the reason why many gamblers now are diverting their habit
from other games to SportsBetting and i am also one of those.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on January 15, 2020, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: fravia on January 15, 2020, 06:02:57 PM

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

If you make bets on sports betting and Esports and you don't know the teams and their games, you are simply like betting on a toss coin. That is a total waste of your money. Also, how could you enjoy your bet if you don't even know the teams playing and the game itself? An exception perhaps is if you have a reliable source with almost perfect prediction record. I might even bet if that is the case.

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Quote from: fravia on January 15, 2020, 06:02:57 PM

ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

"A game that you fully understand". This quote is from fravia, it is what should remember when we are betting in Esports. How are we going to win if we do not fully understand the mechanics of the game? I also betting in Esports but I always making sure that I know what I am doing. Team play and individual skills of the player are also important and we should consider it.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on January 15, 2020, 05:27:37 PM

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Im aware on these bans but these do happen on leagues or on small scale and as mentioned
"This article is a list of players banned from various notable establishments, e.g. leagues, anti-cheat systems and Valve events."
All is on match fixing and been mixed up some racial language too but these are only on small ones.
Rigged on majors and the international? I dont think so and also on big stages when a certain team does have a sign of selling out
the game then you can actually notice if youre a big fan of this.

STT is right, there are qualifiers for the majors and international for which they take advantage of it before. But now that it has became a daily living for the professional players, they don't want to bet and risk their careers with the fix matches. But I still think for the small leagues there are fix matches that happens as long as it's on the bookies. I think I just used the wrong verb, instead of "were" I've used the "are", well that's on my part so apologies with that. Before it wasn't a big thing if the players get involved with it because they were not expecting that majors and internationals will be big as it is right now.

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Rigged on majors and the international?

People do influence the major competitions by cheating in the qualifiers. But also it has been known for the most successful pro players in a particular area or country to be using cheats. Valve I know has become alot more paranoid about this possibility by conducting checks and literally watching gameplay as it occurs on each team members computer. At the same time esports is a modern phenomena, in the past there was far less chance to receive an actual wage hence the temptation to sell off your participation to betting gangs who dictate the outcome ahead of time.
I've got no doubt cheat and throwing does still occur but its far less and I believe caught far earlier on, its mostly down to tournament organiser to ensure integrity to the game and they have everything to lose if seen to be lacking.

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ESports is a very wide-ranging issue, and if you want to bet on it then you should choose a game that you fully understand, I have some tips for you and this tip is the core part of what you need to know before you place your bets, when it comes to betting, you should always know what's better and what's the advantage, in eSports you'll never know who's going to win, MOBA games are one kind of game.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on January 15, 2020, 05:27:37 PM

I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

Im aware on these bans but these do happen on leagues or on small scale and as mentioned
"This article is a list of players banned from various notable establishments, e.g. leagues, anti-cheat systems and Valve events."
All is on match fixing and been mixed up some racial language too but these are only on small ones.
Rigged on majors and the international? I dont think so and also on big stages when a certain team does have a sign of selling out
the game then you can actually notice if youre a big fan of this.

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I agree to @TheUltraElite. There are fixed matches but mostly in esports it's not the bookies that run it but it's the players themselves. For example, there were already a lot of players that were banned by valve due to match fixing. Knowing that Valve is the owner of steam where Dota 2 currently runs and the one that organizes huge tournaments with millions of prize pools, it's a devastating ban for life for those involved players.
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Banned_players

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on January 11, 2020, 05:02:52 AM

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?

Not specifically a certain game, but in general.

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I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

I have to disagree on you, fixing an Esport game is way harder to do than the other games since it will not only need a single person to fixed the game but the whole team, whole brand of the team including their sponsors. Fixing a game is not a one man job, this already tells us that Esports scene is authentic and true to its passion.

I know several players who cheated on international stage, Esports is not rigged and they kicked them out.

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Quote from: sportbettor on January 08, 2020, 03:12:29 PM

Here you can find the Rating of TOP E-Sports Bookies: http://100bookies.com/e-sports-bookies-eng/

Thanks for that, I needed it.

Quote from: turkandjaydee on January 11, 2020, 05:02:52 AM

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that I mentioned before.

We don't know what is happening behind that curtain.

All we know is that these professional players do their best to take home this prize money. In Dota 2, there are a lot of players getting banned because of this, and they really regret they did it. For me, it is not that less but a lot of things proved that fixing is not a thing anymore. In the past, we can only see the games being played, right now we can see how players evolve and rage in a tournament showing their regrets when they commit mistakes.

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Quote from: turkandjaydee on January 11, 2020, 05:02:52 AM

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?

Not specifically a certain game, but in general.

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I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

How are you sure? Do you have any proof and would like to show it or tell about it?

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I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on January 08, 2020, 03:13:53 AM

Still more or less the top gamers are not going to win every game because they are often paid by bookies to run their game and they ask for some matches to get fixed.

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'? I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on January 08, 2020, 07:59:32 PM

For me, there is no easy way to make money in every kind of gambling games,

Of course, otherwise things would be too easy to earn. There needs to be something in the system to prevent you from winning too much otherwise the casino would go bankrupt. These are things like luck in an EV- game and EV+ games to some extent.

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it is just that we must know how to play the game and wait for your luck for you to win because sometimes even if how professional you are in gambling you may still lose at the end.

Well talking about sports and eSports in particular, you have to understand that matches can be fixed in many ways and often bookies are aware of those. Some of the big tech companies are hosting these events and they act like the mafia there. So whatever you bet on, know that losses are going to happen.

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For me, there is no proportional way or a proper way for us to win it is now our strategy to be more strategize for us to win.

There is no such thing. Its called gambling for a reason.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on January 08, 2020, 07:59:32 PM

For me, there is no easy way to make money in every kind of gambling games, it is just that we must know how to play the game and wait for your luck for you to win because sometimes even if how professional you are in gambling you may still lose at the end. For me, there is no proportional way or a proper way for us to win it is now our strategy to be more strategize for us to win.

When it comes to strategic games then it wont really be that simple to win if you arent familiar on the teams on that particular sport but there are people who do just bet blindly with just basing or tailing others suggestion or tips.When it comes to tricks theres no such thing but all things matter with experience and knowledge for you to sustain or last long into this betting field. Typical sports or esports they are just the same on the sense
where you would bet on a particular team on whose gonna win and with some other lines or options.

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