Topic: &#039;Trump Designates Antifa &quot;A Terrorist Organization&quot;&#039; - page 16. (Read 3247 times)

Quote from: cryptoperkele on June 02, 2020, 02:58:55 PM

You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police).

Just to explain the above statement : you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality.
Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders.

So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people.

OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above.

Actually I used to run a Youtube channel focused on nothing more than police brutality for several years, this was of course before it was trendy to hate all cops just for being cops. I had over 5000 subscribers and nearly two million views. I also got more death threats than I could count. Of course feel free to tell me what I enjoy while you make excuses for people who might very well cause a civil war and societal breakdown. I am sure your "justice" in the dark running from roving gangs of murderers and rapists while you starve will be worth it.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 03:01:31 PM

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

So the groups own website is not proof enough? The guide published by ANTIFA detailing how to start a group isn't enough?

[slaps "CONSPIRACY" sticker on it] "Yep, no need to reply now"

Just because you refuse to read it doesn't change the fact that I documented they are in fact a collection of organized groups.

He googled something like 'antifa is an organization' and posted a bunch of the search results.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54543632

I have been monitoring the activities of this organization for at least 5 years, and up to 19 if you count "black bloc" from 1999. You have fun with your shallow baseless assertions, because we both know you have no argument to stand on here. ANTIFA is a terrorist organization.

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This whole thing is a staged setup to make Trump look bad.

Watch the video at the link to the site, below. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=667&v=CJ9hqde1XMo )

Something Doesn't Add Up! Organized Riots? Staged Bricks, Bail Out's & De Blasio’s Daughter Arrested

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Something doesn’t smell quite right with these George Floyd riots breaking out across our cities. Not only are piles of bricks being left at riot scenes, but mayor De Blasio’s daughter has been arrested at one of these unlawful protests and bail out money for looters are being donated by celebrities and Joe Biden campaign staff members. All that and more in this report…

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Quote from: cryptoperkele on June 02, 2020, 02:58:55 PM

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
*cut*

Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

He googled something like 'antifa is an organization' and posted a bunch of the search results.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54543632

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I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do.
If you had actual proof, you would be more specific.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 01:20:43 PM

These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law.

There are riots. And there are protests. Just because there are riots does not make the protests not protests anymore.

Protesters obey the law.

Not always. Probably the most well known example is MLK being arrested for protesting in the 60s.
Another example: in LA the other day there were hundreds of people protesting. The cops declared it an unlawful assembly and gave everyone a chance to leave. Many simply sat down and waited their turn to be arrested. No violence, no looting, just protesting after being told to stop. Civil disobedience is one way to protest and dissent is literally where patriotism came from.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 01:30:28 AM

Quote from: guigui371 on June 01, 2020, 11:07:54 PM

Klu klu klan = not terrorsits (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.

edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No.

Did you change your mind?

Quote from: TECSHARE on August 10, 2019, 07:57:21 PM

Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

They aren't just engaged in unlawful assembly, and they are certainly not nonviolent.

Not every person protesting right now is violent. And not every person is breaking any law. And not every person that does break the law is breaking any law other than unlawful assembly and/or a curfew violation.

I saw one march down my street 30 minutes ago. They were just walking slowly down the side walk holding up signs and chanting.

A friend passed one yesterday where everyone was laying on the ground chanting 'I can't breath'. No chaos. No crime. Just a peaceful protest. There are plenty of videos of similar situations online if you want to see for yourself.

Yeah I change my mind, progressives are more racist than any KKK member.

Jeez man. So Bernie Sanders, for example. One of the founders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus...you think he's more racist than any member of the KKK?

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Quote from: Spendulus on June 02, 2020, 11:14:41 AM

You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police).

Just to explain the above statement : you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality.
Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders.

So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people.

OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on June 02, 2020, 09:39:56 AM

Quote from: coins4commies on June 02, 2020, 09:35:55 AM

and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of". The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.

I am using the legal definition of the term terrorist. The rest of your statement is a non sequitur.

The page on Antifa by the Southern Poverty Law Center is quite interesting. It's obviously they are pushing the lie and backing the violent anarchists/communists.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/06/01/designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties

i lived studied and worked in germany last 30 years, antifa has its origin here

believe me it is extremly exhausting having them constantly in the political debate, it feels like a parasitarian worm is continously drilling your bring, people will suffer having them constantly being pissed off.
there is always force in life.

no government is perfect, antifa destroyes production chains and causes poverty.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 01:20:43 PM

These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law.

There are riots. And there are protests. Just because there are riots does not make the protests not protests anymore.

Protesters obey the law.

Not always. Probably the most well known example is MLK being arrested for protesting in the 60s.
Another example: in LA the other day there were hundreds of people protesting. The cops declared it an unlawful assembly and gave everyone a chance to leave. Many simply sat down and waited their turn to be arrested. No violence, no looting, just protesting after being told to stop. Civil disobedience is one way to protest and dissent is literally where patriotism came from.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 01:30:28 AM

Quote from: guigui371 on June 01, 2020, 11:07:54 PM

Klu klu klan = not terrorsits (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.

edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No.

Did you change your mind?

Quote from: TECSHARE on August 10, 2019, 07:57:21 PM

Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

They aren't just engaged in unlawful assembly, and they are certainly not nonviolent. Yeah I change my mind, progressives are more racist than any KKK member. You people are fucking disgusting and why no one can have a logical nuanced discussion any more, because any nuance is turned into a "gotcha". You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.

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These aren't protests any more, they are riots. Protesters obey the law.

There are riots. And there are protests. Just because there are riots does not make the protests not protests anymore.

Protesters obey the law.

Not always. Probably the most well known example is MLK being arrested for protesting in the 60s.
Another example: in LA the other day there were hundreds of people protesting. The cops declared it an unlawful assembly and gave everyone a chance to leave. Many simply sat down and waited their turn to be arrested. No violence, no looting, just protesting after being told to stop. Civil disobedience is one way to protest and dissent is literally where patriotism came from.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 02, 2020, 01:30:28 AM

Quote from: guigui371 on June 01, 2020, 11:07:54 PM

Klu klu klan = not terrorsits (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.

edit: actually there's nothing fun about that.

Any member of the KKK? No.

Did you change your mind?

Quote from: TECSHARE on August 10, 2019, 07:57:21 PM

Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

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Quote from: cryptoperkele on June 02, 2020, 12:02:11 PM

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Anyway this was just another outburst and a weak gesture from Trump trying to distract our attention to elsewhere. And (should i lend the term) "useful idiots" will eat it up.

Huh?

The "weak gestures" are from liberal governors who let cities burn.

Trump said if they wouldn't stop it, he would.

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Quote from: cryptoperkele on June 02, 2020, 06:19:39 AM

Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

I can call myself a WW2 veteran just like I can call myself an "antifascist". That doesn't magically make me either one of those things.

This comparison doesn't make sense in any level.