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ANTIFA is a dangerous organization.  No central leadership to arrest or destroy.  Sort of like Al-Queda.Bitcoin  It is an idea that needs to be killed.

Do you realize you are actually describing bitcoin? Cool

You want to imprison every ANTIFA member there is? Do you know how many thousands of them?

That's not a way to fight communism or any other idea.

Those ideologies are evil and incompatible with capitalism.

What if capitalism is the problem?
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So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.

Only purpose "Antifa" has ever had is to oppose fascists. Antifa is a wide spectrum of people, literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa. And i wouldn't call people burning buildings "left side" because left side wants a big government and often comply with rules without any hesition, (wearing masks etc), so destroying govenrment property doesn't suit that ideology. People who are burning buildings are frustrated and that frustration doesn't need to have anything to do with right/left axel.

Also antifa doesn't have "leaders" so it's hardly organization or has a spokesman. Rounding up some activists that happen to oppose Facism as well as many other things doesn't do anything to this mystical "Antifa".

So sue me, i am antifa.
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Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.
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Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?
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Just before President Trump was elected by the community, some radical islamist and racist terrorist organizations in the Middle East were being both financed and armed by USA (This issue has nothing to do with the American people, they are not even aware of what is going on in the world due to the puppet media. This media also harms the American people, all they want is to control the world and continue to be a source of finance. In fact, names like George Soros, they have led American politics for a very long time but now I believe this will change thanks to President Trump). I was glad as if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was gone from my country when President Trump was elected but you know what happened? Trump was targeted million times by the puppet media (it's disgusting). Tecshare just doesn't think political correctness is correct and he is an honourable man who loves his own country. I am aware of what problems you have in your country. Never stop telling the truth, my friend.

true george soros made black emancipation possible and libtardation, he is truly an enemy of black people,

sorry but george soros is what the black movment stands for
legendary
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Just before President Trump was elected by the community, some radical islamist and racist terrorist organizations in the Middle East were being both financed and armed by USA (This issue has nothing to do with the American people, they are not even aware of what is going on in the world due to the puppet media. This media also harms the American people, all they want is to control the world and continue to be a source of finance. In fact, names like George Soros, they have led American politics for a very long time but now I believe this will change thanks to President Trump). I was glad as if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was gone from my country when President Trump was elected but you know what happened? Trump was targeted million times by the puppet media (it's disgusting). Tecshare just doesn't think political correctness is correct and he is an honourable man who loves his own country. I am aware of what problems you have in your country. Never stop telling the truth, my friend.
legendary
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I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew.

Why not?  If I break curfew and burn buildings, I am a violent protester.

If I break curfew and do nothing else, I am a peaceful protester.  

Because the curfews have been put in place to prevent looters from taking advantage of a lack of man power from police. Organized protesting is fine and no governmental body nor police have an issue with that. There were even some LEO's joining in. However, when protests go on till 2 in the morning, you're without a doubt going to get riots/looting.

Sucks, but it's a classic example of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. Not really any sort of alternative.
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Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that. 
legendary
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you really need to have some mush in your brain to say that  :

Anti-fascist = terrorist

And then on the other hand :
White supremacists = not terrorists  (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Nazi = Not terrorists   (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)


Anyway, AntiFa members are Americans, so Americans are terrorists (right ? it is not me that say it, it is Trump).
Trump is American, antifas are Americans,  hence Trump is a terrorist.

Thanks, Trump you are definitely making the world a better place
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.
I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.

Fascism is a super nationalist, authoritarian political ideology that.  Fascism is explicitly against democracy.

(Powerful military) + (Dictator that doesn't hesitate to use it to destroy any person, group, country or race that stands between them and more power) = (Fascism)

This is what the anti fascist in Europe during the early 20th century were resisting.

By making this claim about the modern American Antifa:

They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.

You are not only legitimizing them, you're disrespecting those that fought against fascism and implying that Trump is actually fascist.


tldr;
My opinions that I'm sure TECSHARE actually agrees with:
Anti fascist movement in Europe during first half of 20th century == good.  
The American political movement that is referred to as 'Antifa' == bad.
Hitler and Mussolini == fascists
Trump !== fascist (ty US constitution)
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

My guess is the thought process went something like this:

Trump: 'antifa is a terrorist organization.'
Other people: 'it's not an organization, it's a movement.'
TECSHARE: Those other people are questioning Trump.  I must prove them wrong!  **googles anti facists** Bingo! 'They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's!'
Other people: **facepalm**

I didn't need Trump to tell me what I already know. As you can see here, and here, I was raising the alarm about this issue a long time ago.



They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.
Do you really think that there's one single organization that's been around since the rise of fascism that lead to WW2?

It's a movement.  Not an organization.

Who said it had to be a single unbroken chain for it to qualify as a FTO? Also they currently operate internationally. Additionally I clearly documented they are an organization. Just because they have a mostly cellular structure doesn't mean they aren't an organization. You know who else has a cellular structure? Other terrorist organizations.



i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.
legendary
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

The "Antifa" are amazingly identical to Hilter's brown shirts, and other provacateur operations of the 1920-1940s.
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I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew.

Why not?  If I break curfew and burn buildings, I am a violent protester.

If I break curfew and do nothing else, I am a peaceful protester.  
legendary
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

My guess is the thought process went something like this:

Trump: 'antifa is a terrorist organization.'
Other people: 'it's not an organization, it's a movement.'
TECSHARE: Those other people are questioning Trump.  I must prove them wrong!  **googles anti facists** Bingo! 'They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's!'
Other people: **facepalm**

"LOCK THEM UP!!!"
legendary
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Over 4,000 arrests have been made as of last night:
https://apnews.com/55933b8695e36337a6bfe96728b3e7f3

There's plenty of footage showing that many of the arrests were peaceful and made for violating the curfew or having an unlawful assembly.  The cops get loud speakers and say 'if you don't leave right now, you will be arrested', people don't leave and when it's their turn they cooperate and are booked into jail or processed and released with a court date.  I can't find any numbers showing how many arrests were for crimes other than curfew violation/unlawful assembly, but I would guess it's the majority of total arrests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADPqJ8LPd68
https://abc7.com/more-than-900-arrested-after-looting-fires-sweep-socal-amid-protests/6224201/
I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew. The curfew is not being used to suppress protesters, it's being used to prevent looters and rioters from taking over entire city blocks and causing millions in damages. Some departments have even had officers join in on the peaceful protests to show solidarity with people that want to express their rights. Cities need to get a grip on the violence that's been going on their jurisdiction and curfews are the only solution.

Police don't have the resources to control entire crowds to ensure they stay peaceful because they end up having a few violent people in the bunch which causes a mob mentality and quickly devolves into riots. 

tldr; Most cops are good, but the few who aren't will get the most attention.  Most of the protesters are good people, but the few who aren't will get the most attention.  The problem is that the peaceful protests going on are boring...except this one, so most of the attention is just going towards the bad causing outrage.
Spot on.
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.

My guess is the thought process went something like this:

Trump: 'antifa is a terrorist organization.'
Other people: 'it's not an organization, it's a movement.'
TECSHARE: Those other people are questioning Trump.  I must prove them wrong!  **googles anti facists** Bingo! 'They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's!'
Other people: **facepalm**
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i bet tecshare has very little education on what was happening in europe when facism was spreading.  if he did he would never link todays shit for brains that are burning down the country to the antifacists that were resisting hitler and mussolini.
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Antifa is movement from 1930 and means anti fascist movement. Many organisations and people in last 90 years looked upon Antifa. And they will in years to come. They also use Antifa emblem those 2 flags. Wearing it it means you are antifascist. I do hope most of us are. I live in country which nation was first victim of fascism and because of us it sort of started. And if they did not taught you that in school, trust me it is shit

People that loot this stores in USA and people that fights protesters can wear the Antifa flags but have nothing to do with antifascist movement. They are just bullies or criminals. And will be sooner or later put in prison.
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They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's.
Do you really think that there's one single organization that's been around since the rise of fascism that lead to WW2?

It's a movement.  Not an organization.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/what-antifa-trump.html
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antifa, a contraction of the phrase “anti-fascist,” is not an organization with a leader, a defined structure or membership roles.

Rather, antifa is more of a movement of activists whose followers share a philosophy and tactics.

Here's a chart that explains other differences:
https://creatingthefuture.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Movement-or-Organization-chart-form-07-24-15.pdf
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ANTIFA is not an organization. 

It is most certainly organized. It has a regional cellular structure with high level organization and funding not only from actors like George Soros, but also the CCP via "Confucius Institute" fronts operating out of colleges all over the nation.



"China Encouraging BLM ANTIFA Rioters Across U.S. Cities" https://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/37236-intelligence-china-encouraging-blm-antifa-rioters-across-u-s-cities.html



"Pentagon to End Language Funding for Universities That Host Chinese Communist Party–Funded Confucius Institutes"

https://www.newsweek.com/confucius-institute-pentagon-communist-chinese-1406772



"Universities report $1 billion in previously hidden foreign funding after feds threaten investigations"

https://www.thecollegefix.com/universities-report-1-billion-in-previously-hidden-foreign-funding-after-feds-threaten-investigations/



"Donors of Anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ Group Revealed (Center for Community Change -- 2015)"

https://www.scribd.com/document/360602355/Donors-of-Anti-Trump-Resistance-Group-Revealed-Center-for-Community-Change-2015



"China's Foreign Ministry Tweets "I Can't Breathe!"

As America's Rivals Troll US Over Unrest" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-foreign-ministry-tweets-i-cant-breath-us-rivals-troll-us-over-unrest



"America is Under Attack by 187 Groups Funded by George Soros"

https://humansarefree.com/2017/04/america-is-under-attack-by-187-groups-funded-by-george-soros.html



"Greta’s Parents Pictured in Antifa Gear & She Raised Funds for Antifa-supporting Organisation in Europe"

https://humansarefree.com/2019/09/gretas-parents-pictured-in-antifa-gear-she-raised-funds-for-antifa-supporting-organisation-in-europe.html



"Billionaire George Soros spent $33MILLION bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators to create 'echo chamber' and drive national protests"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html



"Liberal Money’s Longterm Strategy To Control Public Opinion And Secure ‘Advantageous’ Demographics"

https://dailycaller.com/2016/11/02/revealed-liberal-moneys-longterm-strategy-to-control-public-opinion-and-secure-advantageous-demographics/



"Soros-Funded Militant Group Claims ‘German Contingent’ At G20 Protests"

https://dailycaller.com/2017/07/07/soros-funded-militant-group-claims-german-contingent-at-g20-protests/



There is no member list.

Of course they don't publish member lists, they are a criminal organization. There are however member lists.



"LIST OF ALL CONFIRMED ANTIFA MEMBERS!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehiI0BwV88




"Antifa sets up recruitment shop at University of Florida"

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13767



"Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown"

https://newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown



"Socialist Rifle Association – DC Metro"

https://sra-dc.org



"'Antifa' movement in Phoenix: What it is, and why officials fear it"

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/10/09/antifa-movement-phoenix-what-you-need-to-know/700415001/



"Rose City Antifa"

https://www.rosecityantifa.org



"By Any Means Necessary"

http://www.bamn.com



"George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/



"Donors of Anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ Group Revealed"

https://freebeacon.com/politics/donors-anti-trump-resistance-group-revealed/



"Black Lives Matter: Produced by George Soros"

https://humansarefree.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-produced-by-george-soros.html



http://www.disruptj20.org/



No training or practices.

They certainly do have training and a very clear modus operandi.



https://www.redneckrevolt.org/



"Forming An Antifa Group: A Manual"

https://itsgoingdown.org/forming-an-antifa-group-a-manual/



it simply means- "Anti Fascist" so now anyone who opposes fascism can be labeled as a terrorist, stripped of all rights and held without trial.

This is the classic PR response that people enabling these terrorists seek to parrot. This is little more than a marketing slogan to cover for their international terrorist and criminal activities. ANTIFA itself fits the profile of a fascist organization itself all the while constantly acting as if they are against it.



"Liberals cheer as antifa violence escalates"

https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/



"Armed 'anarchist and anti-fascist' attempted to firebomb ICE facility in Tacoma, killed in confrontation with police"

https://www.theblaze.com/news/terror-armed-antifa-member-attempts-to-firebomb-ice-facility-in-washington-is-killed-in-confrontation-with-police



"Watch as Antifa Member Shot To Death After Drawing on Police"

https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/watch-antifa-member-shot-death-drawing-police



"A Communist & Anarchist Movement That Explicitly Endorses Violence"

https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/antifa/



""Far-Left Or Anarchists" - Intelligence Reports ID Rioting Protesters; Mostly Locals Arrested"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/they-are-outsiders-minneapolis-officials-blame-white-supremacist-terror-cells-rioting



"Look Who Funds The Group Behind The Call To Arms At Milo’s Berkeley Event"

https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/03/look-who-funds-the-group-behind-the-call-to-arms-at-milos-berkeley-event/



"Anarchist Extremists: Antifa"

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54d79f88e4b0db3478a04405/t/591b46fad1758ef3d2ed8d2f/1494959867234/Anarchist+Extremists+-+Antifa.pdf



"Why I Joined Antifa, and Why I Left—Gabriel Nadales [CPAC 2020] | American Thought Leaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yga9cwCImXc



"Andy Ngo: Breaking Down Antifa Violence & Extremism [TPUSA Special] | American Thought Leaders"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGTliKNQ2g8



"Antifa Origins & Tactics Exposed, After Andy Ngo’s Assault At Portland Protest—Jack Posobiec"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0YWWiSicw



Here is the statutory definition of the types of support that would be prohibited if anifta was designed a terrorist organization. The punishment for providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization faces 20 years in prison, or a life sentence if their support can be attributed to the death of someone.

I don't think wearing an antifa tea shirt would qualify, however, I also don't think antifa has tea shirts, as from what I have heard on news reports, and read on news reports, they like to keep their identities secret, and use violence to prevent anyone from filing them. My understanding is they primarily engage in violence and intimidation of citizens. I also understand they have operated in Washington state for quite some time with impunity, in broad daylight. This implies they have some politicians in their pockets who are preventing them from being prosecuted.

You are not able to have riots in many cities across the US all starting on the same day (Friday) without funding. Airline prices (and hotel) are low right now, so the cost of getting professional protestors into place may be cheaper than it would normally be. I have heard on the news that police have found numerous cars with "stashes" of rioting supplies that rioters were going to in order to cause damage in multiple cities. This implies they are fairly well funded.

I also know there are some "freedom funds" that are being used to bail out people who are arrested. This may also fall under the above-referenced definition of "support".

They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's. They also have a presence in South America, and probably a few other regions. They fit well within the FTO designation.

ANTIFA Merchandise:

https://www.redbubble.com/shop/antifa+t-shirts

https://www.etsy.com/market/antifa_tshirt

https://www.teepublic.com/gifts-and-merchandise/antifa

https://www.punx.uk/product/antifa-t-shirt/

https://society6.com/tshirts/antifa
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