Topic: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"' - page 17. (Read 3214 times)

and lets not miss the fact that the word "terrorist" has been hyper-politicized over the last 20 years to loosely mean "anyone who the government wants to get rid of".   The US has constantly called groups terrorists and then armed them and supported them in later conflicts when they needed their help.

That is a really half assed definition of fascism do you could shoehorn Trump into it. What nazis remain in the US are small in number, a joke, and almost totally ineffectual. I am also willing to bet a large number of those are federal agents doing surveillance. ANTIFA on the other hand has been a growing problem engaging literally in terrorism for some years.

Legal definition of terrorism:

"As used in this chapter—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum;"

I go down that list and the organization known as ANTIFA checks all of those boxes.

I am not disrespecting them, these protofascist cunts that call themselves ANTIFA are by LAARPing revolutionary while the literally burn the country down as if that will brig social justice. They are just a mob of idiots suffering delusions of grandeur and pretending to be revolutionaries while they assault, murder, and burn things down.




I can call myself Prince Abdul Superman Duke of York. That doesn't make me any of those things. The logic you are using here is beyond simplistic.



Any member of the KKK? No. Most members of the KKK? Quite possibly. The KKK has been castrated many years ago and is mostly today just a bunch of ineffectual rednecks. Some of them are even doing community work now. ANTIFA is churning out extremists assembly line style. Lets look at some common progressive beliefs and tell me which ones aren't racist.

-Minorities are incapable of achieving things on their own so they need special help form white people to help them succeed

-Only white people can be racist

-Support Planned Parenthood which by far ends the lives of mostly black children by the millions and was created by an open eugenicist Margaret Sanger.

-They believe in a "Hierarchy of Identities" also known as a "Progressive Stack" which is used at speaking events which automatically gives priority to the "most oppressed" based on race, gender, sexuality, etc.

-Support entitlement programs that make minorities dependent and break up families

-Support gun control which was originally designed to disarm free slaves in the USA

-Support illegal immigration which overwhelmingly harms black workers

There is a lot more, but this is enough for what is arguably off topic from the conversation. Progressives use accusations of racism as a thin veneer to cover for their own perpetration of it and to hide from the guilt of the results of the racist ideologies they support.








I can call myself a WW2 veteran just like I can call myself an "antifascist". That doesn't magically make me either one of those things.




ANTIFA are what have been described as "useful idiots" in the past. They adorn themselves in the heroic mythology of fighting fascism, when in reality their actions demonstrate them to be everything they claim to hate. ANTIFA does in fact have leaders, organizations, and spokesman as I have already documented. Most ANTIFA members are not just activists, they are extremists who perpetrate criminal violence, and are by definition terrorists.




Exactly. The left, and communists especially are very fond of rebranding. That is why the phrase "that wasn't real communism" has become such a joke and a cliche, because they are constantly just renaming themselves while perpetrating the exact same ideologies. It is a constant game of redefinition of terms rather than changing of policy and ideology in order to escape culpability for their actions. This is at the core of communist/Marxist ideology to infiltrate organizations and identities and subvert them toward communist/Marxist goals at the expense of the original intent of the group/identity. Once they are exposed, they abandon that identity, and move on to the next.

Do you realize you are actually describing bitcoin?

You want to imprison every ANTIFA member there is? Do you know how many thousands of them?

That's not a way to fight communism or any other idea.


What if capitalism is the problem?

Socialism and communism should be banned and any followers should be imprisoned and re-educated.

Those ideologies are evil and incompatible with capitalism.

The middle-class or rich kids who are disillusioned by these ideologies should be sent off to North Korea to live as North Koreans for a while until they understand that capitalism is the most natural; the best economic system ever invented.

ANTIFA is a dangerous organization.  No central leadership to arrest or destroy.  Sort of like Al-Queda.  It is an idea that needs to be killed.

Only purpose "Antifa" has ever had is to oppose fascists. Antifa is a wide spectrum of people, literally anyone opposing fascists can call themselves antifa. And i wouldn't call people burning buildings "left side" because left side wants a big government and often comply with rules without any hesition, (wearing masks etc), so destroying govenrment property doesn't suit that ideology. People who are burning buildings are frustrated and that frustration doesn't need to have anything to do with right/left axel.

Also antifa doesn't have "leaders" so it's hardly organization or has a spokesman. Rounding up some activists that happen to oppose Facism as well as many other things doesn't do anything to this mystical "Antifa".

So sue me, i am antifa.

So the violent extremist left has killed off the old Antifa, skinned it, and wears that skin as a shroud to ward off complaints about it's intents and purpose.

The Left has done this sort of thing many times. It's nothing new.

Weren't Americans fighting facists in WW2? Should they also punish the veterans retroactively?

Can't believe this happened:

https://twitter.com/tezuma75/status/1267598198551412737

just so Trump could do this:



Seems like he's using the police to act as his own personal terrorist organization just so he can get a good photo op.

He sure picked an interesting time and place to get religious.

The right fears Antifa because Antifa favors action over grandstanding with guns and aloha shirts, revealing what giant pussies their activists are in comparison.

Now pretty much everybody who protests can be labeled as Antifa, and thus a terrorist. How convenient.

Good thing Trump, as usual, is completely full of shit and doesn't understand that he can't label domestic terrorist organziations.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antifa-or-any-movement-domestic-terrorist-organization/

true george soros made black emancipation possible and libtardation, he is truly an enemy of black people,

sorry but george soros is what the black movment stands for

Just before President Trump was elected by the community, some radical islamist and racist terrorist organizations in the Middle East were being both financed and armed by USA (This issue has nothing to do with the American people, they are not even aware of what is going on in the world due to the puppet media. This media also harms the American people, all they want is to control the world and continue to be a source of finance. In fact, names like George Soros, they have led American politics for a very long time but now I believe this will change thanks to President Trump). I was glad as if Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was gone from my country when President Trump was elected but you know what happened? Trump was targeted million times by the puppet media (it's disgusting). Tecshare just doesn't think political correctness is correct and he is an honourable man who loves his own country. I am aware of what problems you have in your country. Never stop telling the truth, my friend.

Because the curfews have been put in place to prevent looters from taking advantage of a lack of man power from police. Organized protesting is fine and no governmental body nor police have an issue with that. There were even some LEO's joining in. However, when protests go on till 2 in the morning, you're without a doubt going to get riots/looting.

Sucks, but it's a classic example of a few bad apples spoiling the bunch. Not really any sort of alternative.

Fun fact:
TECSHARE considers progressives more racist than any member of the Klu Klux Klan.


edit: actually there's nothing fun about that. 

you really need to have some mush in your brain to say that  :

Anti-fascist = terrorist

And then on the other hand :
White supremacists = not terrorists  (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Nazi = Not terrorists   (even when they shoot 50 kids in a college campus)
Klu klu klan = not terrorsits  (even when they lynch/ hung american citizen)


Anyway, AntiFa members are Americans, so Americans are terrorists (right ? it is not me that say it, it is Trump).
Trump is American, antifas are Americans,  hence Trump is a terrorist.

Thanks, Trump you are definitely making the world a better place

Fascism is a super nationalist, authoritarian political ideology that.  Fascism is explicitly against democracy.

(Powerful military) + (Dictator that doesn't hesitate to use it to destroy any person, group, country or race that stands between them and more power) = (Fascism)

This is what the anti fascist in Europe during the early 20th century were resisting.

By making this claim about the modern American Antifa:


You are not only legitimizing them, you're disrespecting those that fought against fascism and implying that Trump is actually fascist.


tldr;
My opinions that I'm sure TECSHARE actually agrees with:
Anti fascist movement in Europe during first half of 20th century == good.  
The American political movement that is referred to as 'Antifa' == bad.
Hitler and Mussolini == fascists
Trump !== fascist (ty US constitution)

I didn't need Trump to tell me what I already know. As you can see here, and here, I was raising the alarm about this issue a long time ago.




Who said it had to be a single unbroken chain for it to qualify as a FTO? Also they currently operate internationally. Additionally I clearly documented they are an organization. Just because they have a mostly cellular structure doesn't mean they aren't an organization. You know who else has a cellular structure? Other terrorist organizations.




I am not linking it, the smooth brains burning shit down are.

The "Antifa" are amazingly identical to Hilter's brown shirts, and other provacateur operations of the 1920-1940s.

Why not?  If I break curfew and burn buildings, I am a violent protester.

If I break curfew and do nothing else, I am a peaceful protester.  

"LOCK THEM UP!!!"

I don't consider you to be a peaceful protester after you begin violating the law and stay past curfew. The curfew is not being used to suppress protesters, it's being used to prevent looters and rioters from taking over entire city blocks and causing millions in damages. Some departments have even had officers join in on the peaceful protests to show solidarity with people that want to express their rights. Cities need to get a grip on the violence that's been going on their jurisdiction and curfews are the only solution.

Police don't have the resources to control entire crowds to ensure they stay peaceful because they end up having a few violent people in the bunch which causes a mob mentality and quickly devolves into riots. 

Spot on.

My guess is the thought process went something like this:

Trump: 'antifa is a terrorist organization.'
Other people: 'it's not an organization, it's a movement.'
TECSHARE: Those other people are questioning Trump.  I must prove them wrong!  **googles anti facists** Bingo! 'They are in fact an international organization, and they have been in Europe since the 20's!'
Other people: **facepalm**