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legendary
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March 22, 2017, 10:05:02 PM
#65
....Attack my ideas, not me. But, this is fun, I don't have a ton of fucks to give, and they pay me for it.


I've seen three or four guys admit being paid to post here.

Mind if I ask, who pays you?
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 10:00:57 PM
#64
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So these 178 judges are more powerful than the president of the United States? I have always thought that the president of the United States was the most powerful individual in the world (except when Barack Obama was the POTUS).

My point is, that this interpretation would mean that any one of the 178 was more powerful than the POTUS. 

Green_Bit is currently attempting a sophomoric argument intoning solemnly "the law" but were that true in the absolute, there would be no issue with the Supreme Court composition, or with whether judges to that body are appointed by the left or the right.  But we all know that is not the real world, and therefore, Green_bit's argument rings false, admittedly structured toward advocacy of the great merits of a legal argument barely read or understood.

That judges can error is understood by the structure of the judicial system itself, which allows appeals, appeals of appeals, and so forth.  Green_bit would trumpet a wacko decision of the 9th court, but what if, tomorrow, it was a conservative court and a liberal POTUS?  The problem is the same.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 09:21:10 PM
#63
Unconstitutional?  Really?  Are you an expert on that?  At the bare minimum, have you read the 9th circuit case and do you understand the counter arguments?  If not, please don't pretend.  

Still, you miss my point.  There are 178 federal appeals court judges.

Give them the power to over rule a POTUS decision, whatever a POTUS did, some one or several of them could object.

This is a clear case of a category of issues that are termed "Constitutional crises," situations where there is a problem with the application of the US Constitution.

So these 178 judges are more powerful than the president of the United States? I have always thought that the president of the United States was the most powerful individual in the world (except when Barack Obama was the POTUS).

Was Nixon the most powerful person in the world, when he resigned instead of being impeached? No, the president isn't the most powerful person in the world. The Constitution was established to prevent just that, through separation of powers.

You are mixing the men with the message. The idea here is that the judges represent The Law. The Law deemed his shit weak. You know, Law as dictated by a duly elected officer of the Court. You guys believe in elections right? 'That judge won his seat fair and square', just like old 45  Wink Without any of the zesty bite of Russian interference.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 08:32:26 PM
#62
Unconstitutional?  Really?  Are you an expert on that?  At the bare minimum, have you read the 9th circuit case and do you understand the counter arguments?  If not, please don't pretend. 

Still, you miss my point.  There are 178 federal appeals court judges.

Give them the power to over rule a POTUS decision, whatever a POTUS did, some one or several of them could object.

This is a clear case of a category of issues that are termed "Constitutional crises," situations where there is a problem with the application of the US Constitution.

So these 178 judges are more powerful than the president of the United States? I have always thought that the president of the United States was the most powerful individual in the world (except when Barack Obama was the POTUS).
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 06:22:00 PM
#61
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.

Of course they should. I could give a fuck if they were Green Party, it matters not. The executive order byoasses Congressional oversight, hence it should be subject to additional legislative scrutiny to compensate for this, and ensure no abuse of power. The parties all suck in their current iterations. Sponsorship must be removed from politics before this ameliorates. I want what is moral and right, with an emphasis on harm mitigation for all involved parties.

And, it really is unconstitutional as fuck, and pretty dumb to boot. Please explain to me how a ban of countries that don't terrorize us specifically is going to help our security. If Saudi Arabia had made it on the list, I wouldn't be typing this. Oh, and the passage giving Christians preferential treatment for refugee status. I'm Christian myself, and even I can see the problem with that.

Really?  Legislative oversight for a EO?

Regardless, legislative oversight here is substituted by Judicial oversight.  So my question remains.

Think about it.  Any of many judges, each with their own perverse ideas or dogmatic political ideas, whatever, should be able to over ride the President?


use empathy and ask yourself the same question. If Obama had used an  executive order to legalize abortion, would you want that to be irreversible? So to answer your question again, yes, a circuit court should be able to squash a POTUS executive order.
No piece of legislation should be permanent. People are imperfect and times change.

And, you know, Trumps shit was unconstitutional, there is that.

Unconstitutional?  Really?  Are you an expert on that?  At the bare minimum, have you read the 9th circuit case and do you understand the counter arguments?  If not, please don't pretend.  

Still, you miss my point.  There are 178 federal appeals court judges.

Give them the power to over rule a POTUS decision, whatever a POTUS did, some one or several of them could object.

This is a clear case of a category of issues that are termed "Constitutional crises," situations where there is a problem with the application of the US Constitution.

Not in its entirety, but yes, I actually have read the commentary. But I am far from an expert. Are you?

You sound angry man.

Please don't underestimate my intelligence, I respect yours. Priori statements by Trump associates fucked this for Trump, yes, I believe that statements of intent (is this is a Muslim ban) should reflect in judgements, as this applies to all other citizens (if I make ridiculous public statements concerning the civil issue at hand, of course it would effect judgement). Calling something a Muslim ban is a clear violation of freedom of religion. The primary fucking amendment. Your were saying, originalist? And I am merely illustrating the constitutional argument. We won't address the preference of religion, and lack of legal process denied citizens.

No crisis here. Your boy did a dumbass thing, and got called on it.

If the system was so broken, with all 178 judges, why has it only failed now, during a Trump  Presidency?

Your move.

And no more diirect ad hominems. Attack my ideas, not me. But, this is fun, I don't have a ton of fucks to give, and they pay me for it.

Edit: oh, I mispoke earlier, meant judicial when I said legislative. Just reread, you pointed it out for me already. Appreciated  Grin
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 06:12:15 PM
#60
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.

Of course they should. I could give a fuck if they were Green Party, it matters not. The executive order byoasses Congressional oversight, hence it should be subject to additional legislative scrutiny to compensate for this, and ensure no abuse of power. The parties all suck in their current iterations. Sponsorship must be removed from politics before this ameliorates. I want what is moral and right, with an emphasis on harm mitigation for all involved parties.

And, it really is unconstitutional as fuck, and pretty dumb to boot. Please explain to me how a ban of countries that don't terrorize us specifically is going to help our security. If Saudi Arabia had made it on the list, I wouldn't be typing this. Oh, and the passage giving Christians preferential treatment for refugee status. I'm Christian myself, and even I can see the problem with that.

Really?  Legislative oversight for a EO?

Regardless, legislative oversight here is substituted by Judicial oversight.  So my question remains.

Think about it.  Any of many judges, each with their own perverse ideas or dogmatic political ideas, whatever, should be able to over ride the President?


use empathy and ask yourself the same question. If Obama had used an  executive order to legalize abortion, would you want that to be irreversible? So to answer your question again, yes, a circuit court should be able to squash a POTUS executive order.
No piece of legislation should be permanent. People are imperfect and times change.

And, you know, Trumps shit was unconstitutional, there is that.

Unconstitutional?  Really?  Are you an expert on that?  At the bare minimum, have you read the 9th circuit case and do you understand the counter arguments?  If not, please don't pretend. 

Still, you miss my point.  There are 178 federal appeals court judges.

Give them the power to over rule a POTUS decision, whatever a POTUS did, some one or several of them could object.

This is a clear case of a category of issues that are termed "Constitutional crises," situations where there is a problem with the application of the US Constitution.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 04:38:50 PM
#59
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.

Of course they should. I could give a fuck if they were Green Party, it matters not. The executive order byoasses Congressional oversight, hence it should be subject to additional legislative scrutiny to compensate for this, and ensure no abuse of power. The parties all suck in their current iterations. Sponsorship must be removed from politics before this ameliorates. I want what is moral and right, with an emphasis on harm mitigation for all involved parties.

And, it really is unconstitutional as fuck, and pretty dumb to boot. Please explain to me how a ban of countries that don't terrorize us specifically is going to help our security. If Saudi Arabia had made it on the list, I wouldn't be typing this. Oh, and the passage giving Christians preferential treatment for refugee status. I'm Christian myself, and even I can see the problem with that.

Really?  Legislative oversight for a EO?

Regardless, legislative oversight here is substituted by Judicial oversight.  So my question remains.

Think about it.  Any of many judges, each with their own perverse ideas or dogmatic political ideas, whatever, should be able to over ride the President?


use empathy and ask yourself the same question. If Obama had used an  executive order to legalize abortion, would you want that to be irreversible? So to answer your question again, yes, a circuit court should be able to squash a POTUS executive order.
No piece of legislation should be permanent. People are imperfect and times change.

And, you know, Trumps shit was unconstitutional, there is that.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 04:13:21 PM
#58
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.

Of course they should. I could give a fuck if they were Green Party, it matters not. The executive order byoasses Congressional oversight, hence it should be subject to additional legislative scrutiny to compensate for this, and ensure no abuse of power. The parties all suck in their current iterations. Sponsorship must be removed from politics before this ameliorates. I want what is moral and right, with an emphasis on harm mitigation for all involved parties.

And, it really is unconstitutional as fuck, and pretty dumb to boot. Please explain to me how a ban of countries that don't terrorize us specifically is going to help our security. If Saudi Arabia had made it on the list, I wouldn't be typing this. Oh, and the passage giving Christians preferential treatment for refugee status. I'm Christian myself, and even I can see the problem with that.

Really?  Legislative oversight for a EO?

Regardless, legislative oversight here is substituted by Judicial oversight.  So my question remains.

Think about it.  Any of many judges, each with their own perverse ideas or dogmatic political ideas, whatever, should be able to over ride the President?

legendary
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March 22, 2017, 07:11:08 AM
#57
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.

Of course they should. I could give a fuck if they were Green Party, it matters not. The executive order byoasses Congressional oversight, hence it should be subject to additional legislative scrutiny to compensate for this, and ensure no abuse of power. The parties all suck in their current iterations. Sponsorship must be removed from politics before this ameliorates. I want what is moral and right, with an emphasis on harm mitigation for all involved parties.

And, it really is unconstitutional as fuck, and pretty dumb to boot. Please explain to me how a ban of countries that don't terrorize us specifically is going to help our security. If Saudi Arabia had made it on the list, I wouldn't be typing this. Oh, and the passage giving Christians preferential treatment for refugee status. I'm Christian myself, and even I can see the problem with that.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 06:45:27 AM
#56
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).

I'm curious.  You have a fairly opposite political view than I do.  Should any circuit court judge be capable of squashing a POTUS executive order?

Before answering, consider that POTUS can and will flip from one party to the other.
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March 21, 2017, 10:07:36 PM
#55
maybe ban is not a solution on that and not in that way ..Even if Ttrump  is powerful  in all countries.He would just make the law about it not in that way through ban.If that will happen,it would be affecting several people... Not in that way to travel ban,maybe he should make a policy so that it is not unfair to others,....
legendary
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March 21, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
#54
My guess is that the issue raised by the 9th court would be settled very quickly by the Supreme Court.  There was no legal basis for what they did.  There are obvious problems with an 8 member court which could possibly rule 4-4.

If there is no legal basis for what they did, then it should by 8-0 instead of 4-4. Oh... but then I forgot that liberals always modify the constitution and its amendments to their liking. I hope that Ginsburg will die soon. That will help in obtaining a conservative majority in the SCOTUS.
legendary
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March 21, 2017, 03:44:10 PM
#53
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Notice they have largely left the challenges alone. After Gorush makes it in, suddenly, it will get appealed to the highest court in the land. I'm curious to see what else gets pushed to the court once makes it in (its pretty much inevitable at this point).
legendary
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March 21, 2017, 07:07:05 AM
#52
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Even if Gorsuch is confirmed, it will be 5-4 in favor of the liberals (from 5-3 now). I would classify Anthony Kennedy as a liberal. To be more specific, Anthony Kennedy is a liberal wearing a conservative mask.
My guess is that the issue raised by the 9th court would be settled very quickly by the Supreme Court.  There was no legal basis for what they did.  There are obvious problems with an 8 member court which could possibly rule 4-4.
legendary
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March 21, 2017, 12:04:19 AM
#51
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.

Even if Gorsuch is confirmed, it will be 5-4 in favor of the liberals (from 5-3 now). I would classify Anthony Kennedy as a liberal. To be more specific, Anthony Kennedy is a liberal wearing a conservative mask.
legendary
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March 20, 2017, 08:55:19 PM
#50
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.

This is correct, but Trump must wait until Gorsuch is confirmed for the Supreme Court, and then go with a broad question to them:

Can circuit court judges trump an executive order of Trump?

If the question is not posed broadly, then these renegade judges can go time and time again, over ruling a President.

With Gorsuch confirmed and the Court then 5-4 instead of 4-4 as is current, then a decision can be rendered that solves this matter once and for all.
legendary
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March 20, 2017, 08:45:01 PM
#49
Trump may have a made a mistake by doing things openly.

He could have ordered an unofficial travel ban as well. Visas for Syrians or Somalis have only been delivered on a case-by-case basis for years. Trump could have discreetly ordered to make the scanning process even more rigorous, actually blocking all demands, and nobody would have noticed.

Why should he do something like that? He is the president of the United States, and he is having the liberty to change and modify the policies regarding immigration. It is the judges who are overstepping their jurisdiction.
legendary
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March 20, 2017, 05:57:38 PM
#48
And if you think i am a russian spy Cheesy

PUTIN IS ROBBING RUSSIA PEOPLE LIKE NO TOMORROW  Wink..

THEY ARE ALL AT IT Angry..The BILLION DOLLAR YACHT CLUB..

They are no good at making cakes  only good at robbing the nations wealth Wink..
The fact that you acknowledge that Putin is a thief still not clear you of suspicion. Just kidding of course, but the Russians spread their tentacles around. Now every news need to check under the microscope not to run into a Russian fake.
The fact that you acknowledge that Putin is a thief..  No it was Badecker who told me this news..

So To Mr PUTIN it was badecker..YOU KNOW JUST IN CASE Grin..Below

Brit businessman 'being targeted by Russian assassins who killed Putin foe with poisoned veg in his soup'
The Sun · 1 day ago Kiss

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March 20, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
#47
And if you think i am a russian spy Cheesy

PUTIN IS ROBBING RUSSIA PEOPLE LIKE NO TOMORROW  Wink..

THEY ARE ALL AT IT Angry..The BILLION DOLLAR YACHT CLUB..

They are no good at making cakes  only good at robbing the nations wealth Wink..
The fact that you acknowledge that Putin is a thief still not clear you of suspicion. Just kidding of course, but the Russians spread their tentacles around. Now every news need to check under the microscope not to run into a Russian fake.
legendary
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March 20, 2017, 11:39:46 AM
#46
And if you think i am a russian spy Cheesy

PUTIN IS ROBBING RUSSIA PEOPLE LIKE NO TOMORROW  Wink..

THEY ARE ALL AT IT Angry..The BILLION DOLLAR YACHT CLUB..

They are no good at making cakes  only good at robbing the nations wealth Wink..
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