Topic: Trumps Travel Ban? (Round 2) - page 5. (Read 4611 times)

President Donald Trump plans on the travel ban is not done randomly but there are major economic reasons behind it. Trump in his one month of being a president has lessen the debt of America by 12 billion dollars compared to Obama who increased the debt of America by 200 million dollars in his first month. By looking at this fact we can determine that the travel ban was a part of Trumps plan whose after effects is the continues increase in US dollars value recently.

Targeting Saudi Arabia will be a strategic mistake. Considering the amount of investments done by the Saudis in the US, antagonizing them will be suicidal, both economically and politically.

Selling the strategic oil reserves may be a bad idea. They are meant for emergency use in case of warfare or natural catastrophes. And even if he decides to sell them, there will be only a temporary blip in the prices. After 6 or 7 months, the prices will be back to $55 per barrel.

Trump just put forward his executive action on the Travel Ban, and as we all know the first one faced legal blockade from the 9th circuit of Appeals. Instead of Trump going forward and making an appeal up to the supreme court (Without a clear majority) he went forward and changed a couple things on the executive action and put a new one in order.

Jeffrey Toobin, one of CNN's senior legal analysts and contributors feels that the 2nd time's a charm for Trumps executive action, and I will have to agree with the Very Fake News organization for one of the first times in my life.

What do y'all think of the fate of the Travel Ban?


Link to article - http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/opinions/trump-travel-ban-toobin/index.html

In the U.S. not only has shale oil and conventional oil. Besides, Trump was going to sell strategic oil reserves. In any case, this should lead to a drop in prices on world markets. Let me also remind you that China's economy is also beginning to decline.

No matter how much crude oil the American frackers can produce out of the shale formations, the US will remain a net importer of crude oil in the long term. And that means that at last in the crude oil sector, there will be no competition between the US and the KSA.

The us reduced their net crude oil imports from 70% to less then 25% in just 10 years through fracking.
Should oil prices stabilise around 50+ $ oil independence is realistic.
Just google trump and US oil independence.

No matter how much crude oil the American frackers can produce out of the shale formations, the US will remain a net importer of crude oil in the long term. And that means that at last in the crude oil sector, there will be no competition between the US and the KSA.

Now after America was going to sell oil interests with Saudi Arabia disperse. America can reduce oil prices on the world market. It is quite possible that they will be competitors. This is an economic war.

Well, I think it's the same shit on a different day. We still aren't targeting the countries that actually produce terrorist (the US and Saudi Arabia. I shit you not. When I found out we actually produced roughly half of the guys we pop for terrorism, I shit a brick). I feel this is the case because Trump has financial interests that he does not want to piss off. It targets people for religion still, with prettier words. Since we founded the country in the pursuit of religious freedom, I think it's bullshit. I know alot of you hate Muslims (despite the fact that most of us don't even know one), but if you want to paint all followers of Islam with the same brush, then do so. Don't treat the ones you like different just because you make money with them. Be an asshole unilaterally, I say.

Compare Snopes (we can all agree this is an  unbiased source):
http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/14/countries-terrorists-come/

With this (more statistics specifically on Americans that engage in terror):
https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/who-are-terrorists/

The second source is seeming non partisan, you can check the credentials of each of the researchers on the bottom of the page (everyone is pretty experienced, and you can't really lie about this, it's a matter of public record that is easily fact checked.)

So why are we focusing on those particular countries, that don't have Trump towers, when the countries that are the problem (and have Trump Towers) are ignored? The numbers don't lie.

Note that "target" oil prices are set by the Saudis and their cartel, not the USA.  The USA simply responds and produces in response to price and demand.

Now after America was going to sell oil interests with Saudi Arabia disperse. America can reduce oil prices on the world market. It is quite possible that they will be competitors. This is an economic war.

Targeting Saudi Arabia will be a strategic mistake. Considering the amount of investments done by the Saudis in the US, antagonizing them will be suicidal, both economically and politically.

He missed Saudi Arabia.  That country's religious ideology is the root cause of all the ISIS like behaviours.

From where I stand, he is not doing his job.  If the objective is to fight terrorism, he should start with Saudi Arabia.

That is where the terrorist ideas and money originates.

Trump just put forward his executive action on the Travel Ban, and as we all know the first one faced legal blockade from the 9th circuit of Appeals. Instead of Trump going forward and making an appeal up to the supreme court (Without a clear majority) he went forward and changed a couple things on the executive action and put a new one in order.

Jeffrey Toobin, one of CNN's senior legal analysts and contributors feels that the 2nd time's a charm for Trumps executive action, and I will have to agree with the Very Fake News organization for one of the first times in my life.

What do y'all think of the fate of the Travel Ban?


Link to article - http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/opinions/trump-travel-ban-toobin/index.html

The saudis role in global oil market is becoming less and less important because their oilfields have been spitting out watery oil for a while now. When the well dries up, they will disappear.

The Trump administration announced the maximum transition to the US to use its own energy resources and to rid the country of dependence in foreign-made oil. And this means that Saudi Arabia will suffer unequivocally.

I don't disagree with that.   I know what our status was under Obama / Hillary re Saudi.  Obama bowed to the Saudi king, and Hillary would have followed their every suggestion regarding the US making war in the Middle East.

I do not know what Trump's stand on Saudi Arabia is.