Topic: Trustdice.win , UPD: TRUSTDICE SCAM, 2138$ USDT confiscated. (SOLVED) - page 4. (Read 1730 times)

The explanations they have given regarding the late bets that were allegedly wagered and accepted by their systems at the end of the match aren't satisfactory in my opinion. I have explained why in my previous posts here. The last thing their casino representative Coinbox1 said was that they would speak with the CEO to check whether they can release some sensitive information about the case or not. Proof has to be posted from their side. I am going to PM Coinbox1 and ask him to reply in this thread again and answer the questions I had.

contact a lawyer in curacao.if there is someone else even better=good

I’m at a dead end and I don’t know what to do, all the same, I would suggest making a note @coinbox1 that these are scammers, I’m tired, they don’t give me answers, they ignore both on the forum and directly through the mail, they don’t provide evidence of violations, and they judge without them OK, in what country in the world is a criminal charged and imprisoned without evidence of violations of the law? this is just an example. But still, the matter does not move on, the site administration does not give any explanations, on my part now the same position, I am not guilty of anything, the explanations on the rates have already been sent by @poika1
, his message is the difference with the violation that they assigned to me, apparently the trustdisse admins decided to make themselves a present and buy a new villa in GOA for the new year

Correct, these days this only happens in smaller & ineffective markets(But OP bets NBA/NFL).

Trustdice uses the same provider as Duelbits/Bitsler, from my experience their provider is quite sharp.

It's difficult and highly unlikely, but not impossible. Bookmakers know what they are doing and they have partnerships with companies that take care of these things for them, so pundits can't take advantage of late bets, for example. But any partnership costs money. If they are cheap, they might go for other options where the provided service is not satisfactory and provides live data with delays. I don't think that's what is happening here based on the odds I see.

And let me repeat again. It's not about placing bets ahead of broadcast because you can't see into the future to know what will happen. It's about placing bets with a bookmaker that is late to update odds or suspend betting altogether for certain markets on time.   

I apologize for the typo, corrected


I roughly understood what you mean, sit in the stadium, or watch the broadcast without delay, I don’t know much about it, but I think it’s unrealistic, my proof that I’m not in America is that I was sitting on the site from a Russian IP address and I live in Russia, and I can also take a picture of an international passport where there is no American visa, so I can assume that it is very difficult or even impossible to place bets ahead of broadcast on matches of the NBA type, American football, or even impossible, since this is a top championship where the delay is no more than 2 -3 seconds, a bet on TrustDice is accepted for about 5-10 seconds, if I bet on some kind of volleyball 3 league of Madagascar, women, then I think this is possible as an example. I made bets solely for the purpose of entertainment, which I wrote above.

I received a PM from OP to take a look at this case, so here I am.

This screenshot doesn't show your pending withdrawal, btw. But I can see it in one of the other links that you posted.

That can't be the case judging by how high the odds are on the screenshots OP posted. If the player made a live bet on an odd of 2.20, that wager had to be placed long before the event in action was about to end. Otherwise, the odds would have been much lower.

Let's say I make a bet that a football match will have over 2.5 goals at the odds of 2.20. As the match progresses, the live odds for this market will either increase or decrease depending on the result. If there has already been two goals in the match, and depending on how much time is left, bookmakers will either permanently close the +/- 2.5 goal markets or they will introduce new ones like the +/- 3.5 or +/- 4.5 goals. If the time period for an event is close to ending and the outcome is highly unlikely, you wouldn't have those kind of odds. They would either be much lower or much higher. If you are in the 88th min at a score of 1:0 and you wanted to place a bet for +2.5 goals, those odds would be huge because it's unlikely that 2 more goals will be scored. Opposite of that, if you wanted to place a bet that there will be -2.5 goals, those odds would be quite small. In OPs case, he has quite big odds of 1.7, 1.9, 2, and even higher. There is no chance that a legit bookmaker would accept live bets on events that are about to end at those odds where the outcome favors the bettor unless there is something really fukced up with your site.   

It's not about knowing the result beforehand or being a psychic and knowing how it will end. One way of abusing late bets is too be at a venue and use a bookmaker that updates its markets with several seconds delay. If that delay is greater than 8-10 seconds and the bookmaker allows live betting for that event, you will have an edge and be able to bet on things that already happened. Do you understand? The other way is using a fast source (TV channel, satellite feed, radio, stream) and again place bets with a bookmaker that uses delayed odds changes and suspensions for markets. That's the theory.

OP's knowledge of English is bad. As I said previously, that can't be. The odds wouldn't be like that for live bets. I can find any game that is live and demonstrate this for you. Anyone who has been involved in betting long enough will know this. I am going to tag Trofo here. @Trofo is someone I know from the Croatian local and he enjoys betting. He also works with Sportsbet and organizes several of their pools. Let's see what Trofo says about these accusations and whether what I am saying is right or wrong.

I tried to apply, they refused me, they write that violations of the terms and conditions must be addressed to the licensee

@Laki21000, you should start a complaint against the Trustdice casino:
https://www.askgamblers.com/submit-complaint

I think OP is waiting for you to share this data.

Compared your betslips vs Bet365 lines(Using Betsapi)
https://betsapi.com/rs/bet365/5486040/HOU-Rockets-vs-DEN-Nuggets etc

Because he works in marketing, and he doesnt know anything about sportsbetting.

Why am I being ignored? representative, why don't you provide evidence of my violations? I honestly do not want to quarrel with anyone, and so on, I did not violate anything and was an honest player, but the absurdity that is happening, I still cannot believe that I am being accused of something.

Surprise, surprise, @Coinbox1 lied again.
After analyzing OPs bets, the pattern is very clear. OP is betting on mispriced(+EV) lines during the timeouts/halftimes/delays.


I am also very interested in how they then accept these overdue bets .... Why don't they make returns? if not late bid? Just laughing. I'm also very curious how they then accept these overdue bets.... Why don't they make refunds? if it's late bets? @coinbox1, why are you silent?

First time to hear about this late bet strategy. How come is this possible if the games is broadcast live? Is there significant time delay for the official result to reflect on your sportsbook vs the live games? I’m watching live basketball games in my country and betting at the same time for that specific match but I didn’t notice any significant time delay on the live score on bookmaker that I’m playing. If this is really true then you should close the betting option when the time is near to end to avoid this strategy.

This is understanding if the match is fixed though but betting before the match end is questionable for me because I bet too on late game matches for a more accurate outcome on live games but I never encounter such rules like this. I might revisit again the ToS of all the sportsbook that I use to spot same rules like this.

Surprise, surprise, @Coinbox1 lied again.
After analyzing OPs bets, the pattern is very clear. OP is betting on mispriced(+EV) lines during the timeouts/halftimes/delays.


6 bets, 0 late bets, all bets were placed after the game was paused.

Just to make it crystal clear:
OPs betslip + Bet365 odds & time left(+6 minutes)

Ahahahaha, are you serious? I use a translator, you are a Russian-speaking trustdice administrator, and you understand everything what dirty games you play. I meant that I bet on the ncaa carolina match three, when there were about 10 minutes left until the end of the match. If the translator does not translate well, I will describe everything in more detail so that you do not think something is wrong. You are a Russian-speaking administrator, and you know that I am Russian and use a translator, what a dirty game of you? https://imgur.com/a/PeDmXEc

If you turn on your head and think that I wrote it, it is clear that I did not put it when the match ended!, my words mean that the match was still going on and nearing the end, this means that there were about 10 minutes left until the end of the match.

Late bets - judging by Wikipedia, these are bets on which you already know the outcome of the event, I didn’t do this and I didn’t bet it. You are taking my words out of context. I deny it completely, I didn’t put it, I’m an ordinary player, and you just decided to blatantly lie and deceive, attributing that I violated your conditions.

Lord have mercy! Are you bullying a customer who clearly doesn't speak english?

Hello everyone,


As OP has publicly admitted, he placed bets after the game ends when the outcome of the game becomes available.

Such conduct is standard late betting abuse, which our T&C forbids, and he agreed to not engage in when he signed up.

He has publicly admitted that he engaged in activities that violate our T&C, thus I think there is no need for further explanations. With that being said, as the OP insists, I have forwarded OP's request for private info disclosure to our CEO and will update this thread if a permission is granted.


Thank you.
TrustDice Team

Here comes the flag, because that is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever read.

Customer bets for 4 weeks, and when he decides to withdraw Trustdice decides to check all customer bets under a magnifying glass.
They find some "late bets" and use it to confiscate all of his money.

By the way their sportprovider is extremly sharp, i have NEVER seen them SLEEPING while looking at their live odds.


100% ridicoulus, 100% scam

@Laki21000 please support my flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2569866

What kind of nonsense? what are the late bets? I understand you mean that I put the original result on the result? i.e. known in advance? do you mean it? And I, too, am shocked by these statements. Yes, I'm ready for you to provide it, however, I no longer trust you because you can now provide any screenshots, edited, created specifically to mislead. If you are talking about the NCAA American Football Carolina Troy match, the last match, then how can I know the result in advance?)) Yes, I placed this bet at the end of the match, I placed it live, I watched this match. What kind of delays do I use explain? I have no idea what it is, I will repeat again for all users. I am an ordinary player, a gambler. I sit and play for my pleasure. I am ready to listen to all claims, I give the green light to the provision of my personal data if it helps to return my money won in an honest way. I played at many bookmakers, but to lie so blatantly and make me guilty of what I did not do is nonsense. I bet on popular matches, I took screenshots of bets and posted them to the public, I bet exclusively on the NBA, European leagues, and American football, do you think it is possible there, as the bookmaker’s representative says, “late bets”, on championships that are top 1 among all, where I THINK it is unrealistic to do. I still think that the screenshots will be ridiculous, or fake, but I agree to provide them.
Please note. I just calculated my balance and I'm up about ~$1,300. We can assume that I spent the whole month that I bet with them, I was about in the red, or stayed at the level of a slight minus, I want to remind the community that the whole month that I bet, they calmly all withdrawn money to me, without problems. As soon as I got a plus, which of course is unprofitable for trustdice, they love it when players only lose, but do not want to honestly pay out the winnings, they begin to come up with incomprehensible rules that I violated. Judging by because he writes search5, he compared them with other casinos, so I went to them, and they have the same line, so they take matches, odds from the supplier, well, why didn’t the odds supplier limit me limits? why didn't the supplier return the bids at the moment when I allegedly violated the rules? right because I did not violate anything and these are inventions that do not just want to withdraw money to me. I'm not hiding anything, but I had one return bet. Yes I registered an account at the beginning of November and it was the second or third bet after registering, I remember that I bet on Sacramento Golden State, Sacramento won that they would win in the first half, then the bet was returned, I don’t know if it was a mistake , however, they gave me a refund and I did not write anything. There has never been a return since.

PS

My subjective opinion is that the bookmaker simply decided to take my money under the pretext of violating the rules, as soon as I got a plus they decided to confiscate the money. If I was in the red, I would be sure that I would continue to sit and play with them further, I am 100% sure

Please tell us how you can know the result in advance in American football? in nba basketball? Am I at a match? I live in America? no. I live in Russia, I place bets from a computer while watching the broadcast, it’s physically impossible, even if I assume that I made late bets, then I need to be at the stadium or at the match itself, but then I’m sitting at home in Russia, I even have US visas no, and how can you make late bets, in the nba? top 1 basketball championship, where points I think are counted instantly after the throw
Moreover, I watch broadcasts on Betfury, but I sit and watch broadcasts there, because they have broadcasts, unlike your site, it happens on roletto, and then I find out about the NBA timeout only after 1-2 minutes, because everything practically delayed broadcasts, but what am I talking about, you made charges that do not belong to me. nonsense!

Are you serious? You can VOID latebets if you want, thats 100% fine. But you cant randomly steal all of his money weeks later?



+ Im still waiting for my verdict(I had like 2 live bets only, so you have to find something else).
+ Flag incoming

He posted his whole bet history, so we can compare it to the Bet365/Pinnacle line.