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member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
July 21, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
#92
play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

oh realy?i love chess, but I've never played for money/btc... i must try:)

edit: yupi!! i have account. very interesting idea;)
yes site is ready, it is still to simple , i dnt yet done search enigine optimization and other seo, still i get good response i am looking to make it more easy one ,
if any one have any issue about deposit and withdraw can PM me
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 10611
July 19, 2015, 11:38:55 PM
#91
play chess for bitcoins, better then betting
chess4coin.com

i didn't quite understand how it works. are you affiliated with them or just informing others. i think you should make an announcement page in this section advertising the site or even make a signature campaign.

anyways i wanted to know if it is playing against a bot or can i play chess against other humans (PvP) and bet against each other?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
July 19, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
#90
i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.

You need skills to get your strategy, and thatis not one time show and you can master it all. You need to play longer time to learn the tactics because there are so many tactics in chess, one wrong move you will end up losing. And playing chess to earn bitcoin? I dont think that is a good choice because you need to consume so much time just to win one game against whoever it is
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
bitcoin supporter
July 19, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
#89
i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.

it requires tremendous amount of time to master chess. tactics, strategy, practice etc..
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
July 19, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
#88
i dont know how to play in chess
i dont have skill for it, because we need a strategy to win.
but i want to try it to learn about chess.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Scat The Billionaire
July 19, 2015, 07:03:04 AM
#87
i just created an account there, very simple site and looks nice.
but is there any possibility to create a bot player , so we can play anytime,
no need to wait another player online, because now i see just one player online.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 19, 2015, 06:06:26 AM
#86
If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

If player can interact while playing on the site will assure somewhat that we are playing against humans..... video calling can be a good option

I suppose it would also be necessary for the site to have a view of both players' screens, for that to have a chance of working - but even then, that wouldn't really prevent a scenario where a cheater would have an accomplice watching the game, and using a chess engine to then show the best moves to the first.
member
Activity: 96
Merit: 10
July 19, 2015, 01:15:09 AM
#85
If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

If player can interact while playing on the site will assure somewhat that we are playing against humans..... video calling can be a good option
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 15, 2015, 02:15:07 PM
#84
I mean if there are chess engines strong enough to beat the best players at chess, a super complex game for engines and without using brutforce i figured that there must be engines to win at poker and any other game eventually but i have no idea about poker bots, thats why i asked

Hmm, but the problem is, as far as I understand it at least, that chess isn't a super complex game. By the nature of the game (all the board information being available to both players; relatively few movement options each turn; simple rules), it's ideal for computers to play using brute force; that is, checking a huge number of possible moves, and choosing the one that gives them the most advantage.

Poker, on the other hand, isn't a perfect information game (you don't know what cards the other players are holding, or what cards will be on the table), which makes it more complicated for a bot to play well. Of course, that isn't to say they won't be able to do so eventually, as hardware, and mainly the algorithms used to play the game, improve - but they're not there yet (except for one or two specific variants of the game).
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
July 15, 2015, 02:13:25 PM
#83
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?

limit holdem is considered a solved game
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-robot-is-the-best-limit-texas-holdem-player-in-the-world

no limit and other varients such as omaha are not "solved" yet

Ah i see, pretty interesting but chess engines are not perfect either and they can win against humans, in the article it says that the robots would do pretty good in a no limit game against humans but doesnt specify how good, could they win in the long run against the top poker players?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
July 15, 2015, 02:05:21 PM
#82
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?

limit holdem is considered a solved game
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-robot-is-the-best-limit-texas-holdem-player-in-the-world

no limit and other varients such as omaha are not "solved" yet
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
July 15, 2015, 02:01:08 PM
#81
I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites
People always seeks for easy profit, you can't stop the idea of being rich doing nothing, nothing can stop a scammer to do so.
well yeah, thats why because such pvp sites should not be created as the fair game cant exist because of people greed, in my opinion it would be better to play against different levels of AI
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
July 15, 2015, 02:00:58 PM
#80
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in this game: something like only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets. Has this changed?

I mean if there are chess engines strong enough to beat the best players at chess, a super complex game for engines and without using brutforce i figured that there must be engines to win at poker and any other game eventually but i have no idea about poker bots, thats why i asked
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 15, 2015, 01:59:00 PM
#79
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?

I've never played a lot of poker personally, but I'm under the impression that bots are still somewhat limited in that game; something like, only able to win at one type of game, one player versus another, and with limited bets - has this changed?
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
July 15, 2015, 01:58:29 PM
#78
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?
Because most people plays freerolls. or low stakes so they aren't bothered by that.
Even if you are Ivey or someone else, you just play your best to win pennies.
The problem comes when the player in question plays a big guaranteed.
There people would be bothered, but until now I saw noone complain.
hero member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 505
July 15, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
#77
Well a lot of people complain about bots in chess but isnt poker pvp the same thing? Arent there bots that know exactly what to play and when to play it? How come no one is bothered or affected by that?
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
July 15, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
#76
I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites
People always seeks for easy profit, you can't stop the idea of being rich doing nothing, nothing can stop a scammer to do so.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 15, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
#75
Hi,

I had a Chess game installed on my PC (not there now), but still have another one on my mobile.
When mimicking the plays of the PvE, taking black in the PvP game has the advantage, unless the move is the same.

The fairness of the game is challenged, and you will never know whether you are playing against a bot in reality or not, and soon you will start using it too (esp. if you lose Wink).

Well, my app supports handicaps, so the best way is to change the game, literally. Smiley

Switch the positions of the Bishop and Knight in the chessboard, and Voila! you get a chess game that you can play with real opponents!

Just invented Anti-Bot Chess (ABC), the PvP version of the Chess. Grin

You do realize that most chess programs allow you to set the starting positions of the pieces in the board, right? Tongue

Other than that, that change would probably make the moves of the opening book irrelevant, but would otherwise not make much of a difference, I suppose: the difference in abilities between human and computer players would still be the same. And indeed, as long as the game's rules are fairly similar (in this case, as long as they amount to a perfect information game with relatively few possible moves), bots will still have the advantage.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
July 15, 2015, 01:26:49 PM
#74
I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
whats the point of doing that? almost all thinking games can be botted, what would lead to people getting mad about it, i think there is no need to create such gambling websites
legendary
Activity: 2884
Merit: 1117
July 15, 2015, 01:01:25 PM
#73
I think people would play othello more easly without the absurd risk of botting, even if there is a chance for it to be done, it would be easier to play so it would be more fun.
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