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legendary
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New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
July 15, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
#72
Hi,

I had a Chess game installed on my PC (not there now), but still have another one on my mobile.
When mimicking the plays of the PvE, taking black in the PvP game has the advantage, unless the move is the same.

The fairness of the game is challenged, and you will never know whether you are playing against a bot in reality or not, and soon you will start using it too (esp. if you lose Wink).

Well, my app supports handicaps, so the best way is to change the game, literally. Smiley

Switch the positions of the Bishop and Knight in the chessboard, and Voila! you get a chess game that you can play with real opponents!

Just invented Anti-Bot Chess (ABC), the PvP version of the Chess. Grin
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1038
July 15, 2015, 10:37:12 AM
#71
I'm a chess player myself and if we aren't playing with bots here, there is a higher chance of winning if you are good with chess.
I sure would be playing such if someone could just confirm users playing with users here in bitcoin community. Smiley

How? I say "hi enhu, let's play a game".
You play against "jambola2" on the website.
I open up a chess program in the background, type in every move you play, and destroy you.
You might decide to put negative trust on me for botting.
But what proof do you have? I may be a GM level player.
The only thing you could do is decide to play with people you trust a lot. Then it becomes more of a question of why are you using this website? Play on a free website and directly play the person you're playing with. You won't have to even pay the house rake.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1018
July 15, 2015, 09:24:09 AM
#70

I'm a chess player myself and if we aren't playing with bots here, there is a higher chance of winning if you are good with chess.
I sure would be playing such if someone could just confirm users playing with users here in bitcoin community. Smiley
member
Activity: 96
Merit: 10
July 15, 2015, 09:14:28 AM
#69
Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.

not enough traffic for the site thats why there are no games to be found.

Yes the site yet doesn't have much traffic , i too had checked on site many times but did not find games to join....
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
July 14, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
#68
Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.

not enough traffic for the site thats why there are no games to be found.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1034
July 14, 2015, 05:41:36 PM
#67
Does anyone play on here yet? I checked on the site a couple times recently and there were no games to join. I understand I run a risk of playing against a bot but I would like to give it a shot either way.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 14, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
#66
I love playing chess. And If the owner cared to make his game more trustable I would have surely played. Its a nice concept but owner should really pay attention to comments and take action.

Well, to be fair, there is only so much anyone can do under the circumstances - there probably is no realistic way to stop players from cheating at these types of online games, and rewarding them with money for their efforts will only make it worse.

Still, the developers do seem to be paying attention to comments and, at least, trying to take action:

i am sure it will be not easy for some one to run a bot on this site. i wll keep capture each match and will analyisis players moves, and will make sign up system we hard so it will be not easy for a bot to log in in this site
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
http://pachinko.games-bit.com/
July 14, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
#65
I love playing chess. And If the owner cared to make his game more trustable I would have surely played. Its a nice concept but owner should really pay attention to comments and take action.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
July 14, 2015, 04:39:16 PM
#64
Great games concept, but any new update from op about real live players vs players??

Actually i dont care if i must play again others else that have both anatoly karpov and garry Kasparov brain running beside him  Cheesy

Btw anyone have any side for playing chess base on bitcoin??
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1038
July 14, 2015, 12:20:03 PM
#63
If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.

People have talked about how impossible that is for 3 pages now. It is clear that the owner doesn't care. And why should he care? Since it is p2p, he gets his house cut regardless of whether bots are used.

Stay away if you're an honest player.
full member
Activity: 168
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http://pachinko.games-bit.com/
July 14, 2015, 11:51:10 AM
#62
If the owner finds a way to ensure the players that they are actually playing against humans then it could work.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
July 14, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
#61
Chess for bitcoins? Isn't Chess a little too exploitable as a game? I mean you could just have pretty strong Chess program running in the background and just copy moves from it.


Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking.  Even my old copy of chessmaster, which is not supposed to have the best engine out there from what I understand, could beat 99% of human players I think.

What the heck, I might as well fire up the old beast of a game lol.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1129
July 14, 2015, 07:21:53 AM
#60
I was thinking the same and yet, even for othello there would be the same problem, there is an app that tells you which is the best move to do and which is ev- so yeah... it would be still a nice challenge... add Othello mate.
legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
July 14, 2015, 07:14:59 AM
#59
i am sure it will be not easy for some one to run a bot on this site. i wll keep capture each match and will analyisis players moves, and will make sign up system we hard so it will be not easy for a bot to log in in this site

Thats fine, but what about a passive bot where a player is doing the actually moves, but a bot is deciding them?  It would be virtually undetectable.

What about you set your windows chess no the maximum level and use the moves it uses against you to play vs others.  I guess that doesn't help you if there are questions relating to chess strategy but it does make you very hard to beat.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
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July 14, 2015, 05:22:36 AM
#58
this won't work. I think 90% of the participants will try to cheat using bots or an external chess game. this will always happen on any online chess games.

I agree with you and all others, chess sites are easy to exploit and players will surely cheat to earn bitcoin by using external chess game

This discussion made me think of the challenges that had kasparov against deep Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJarxpYyoFI
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036
July 14, 2015, 03:25:15 AM
#57
Your starting page needs a major overhaul. It seems as if you have bought a premade layout and haven't edited the default info on it.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
July 14, 2015, 02:35:53 AM
#56
i am sure it will be not easy for some one to run a bot on this site. i wll keep capture each match and will analyisis players moves, and will make sign up system we hard so it will be not easy for a bot to log in in this site

Actually implenting something as such wouldn't be too difficult. There is already an chess algo which is used to beat maybe gambling websites.

But it depends how much time someone has.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1140
July 14, 2015, 01:02:04 AM
#55
i am sure it will be not easy for some one to run a bot on this site. i wll keep capture each match and will analyisis players moves, and will make sign up system we hard so it will be not easy for a bot to log in in this site

Thats fine, but what about a passive bot where a player is doing the actually moves, but a bot is deciding them?  It would be virtually undetectable.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1031
July 13, 2015, 10:42:45 PM
#54
I know how to play chess but I don't think it's really worth the time for chess.  Not for me anyways.  I prefer in-person games to see the thoughts on other players faces.  Man, I thought poker was boring.  I can just imagine an online chess game.  The timers would be interesting.  People could really cheat and get computer help on best moves but maybe a strict timer system would curtail the cheating but then also limit the game play.  yeah, just don't see it for me.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1071
July 13, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
#53
Lightning chess would only work if the board size, piece dimensions, etc were randomized and changed often to avoid automatic screen capture by a computer.

That's an interesting idea, but I still doubt it would work - off the top of my head: the board is still a grid with 8 x 8 squares, regardless of the actual size of each square, and their colors will still alternate in a predictable manner (even is the colors change somewhat); and the starting positions for all the pieces are still the same, even if a script would need to search around for the right place on the board (I imagine it would then not be too hard for such a program to hold the image of a piece in memory and then compare, maybe a number of border pixels on that image, to the pieces present in the board).

So, I assume this would make cheating by most players fairly hard1; but considering there is money involved, the site is going to get some dedicated cheaters in there, I'm sure. Also, if the developers take it too far (like, not using actual squares for each position in the grid), they risk turning the board into a piece of modern art, which may scare away a few players. Cheesy

1 - Well, if cheaters really want to use a bot for that. At some point, it might just be easier for them to, for example, share the prize money with someone else, and have them manually copy the moves to another device (say, a smartphone), while the first copies the result back to the site; or some other similar arrangement.
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