Turkish Super League & 1. League 2021/22 Season - page 41.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 04, 2022, 02:08:58 AM

Quote from: hollandalibaykus on February 03, 2022, 12:09:24 PM

We're seeing a different scoreboard this year than we've ever seen before. The best teams in the league got very bad scores, while the Anatolian teams are very good. I would love to have a team like Trabzonspor or Konyaspor become the champion. It will contribute to the development of football in these cities Cheesy

I feel very sorry for Galatasaray. Their current scores are quite low, I would like to see how many they can reach by the end of the year Cheesy

Even though some Anatolian teams got sort of good results, in general they are not playing well... Comparing many middle ranked Anatolian teams would give you similar results: Some good players, better management vs more bad players worse management. That's why it is so hard to bet for Turkish league in general. But this relativity is good as betting odds are rather high.

As far as I can see, there are no good football players in Anatolian clubs, this is the biggest problem Cheesy

Even the players playing in bad teams in other leagues are much better than the players playing in Anatolian clubs in Turkey. But interestingly, teams win games. I see them winning games without scoring too many goals, thanks to a few positions and shoots Cheesy

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on February 04, 2022, 08:34:42 AM

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Galatasaray had a similar performance to this one in the 2010-2011 season also.

Galatasaray had a bad performance in the 2010-2011 season. But this season Galatasaray have so bad performance. I don't remember that Galatasaray being this bad situation.

Besiktas and Fenerbahce may be playing a little worse, but their performances are not as weak as in Galatasaray. Galatasaray have managed to earn only 27 points in 23 matches. And able to scored only 28 goals. The performance of Fenerbahce and Besiktas is much better than Galatasaray. Despite not having the chance to win the Fenerbahce and Besiktas titles, they still have a chance to finish second in the points table.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on February 04, 2022, 05:19:55 AM

Galatasaray had a similar performance to this one in the 2010-2011 season also.

Galatasaray had a bad performance in the 2010-2011 season. But this season Galatasaray have so bad performance. I don't remember that Galatasaray being this bad situation.

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Galatasaray and Fenerbahce can have bad times like this even if it doesn't happen very often. Galatasaray had a similar performance to this one in the 2010-2011 season also. And Fenerbahce were in the same situation with Galatasaray's current performance when their manager was Cocu. The most surprising thing for me is that Fenerbahce, Galatasaray and Besiktas all are very bad this season.

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on February 03, 2022, 12:09:24 PM

We're seeing a different scoreboard this year than we've ever seen before. The best teams in the league got very bad scores, while the Anatolian teams are very good. I would love to have a team like Trabzonspor or Konyaspor become the champion. It will contribute to the development of football in these cities Cheesy

I feel very sorry for Galatasaray. Their current scores are quite low, I would like to see how many they can reach by the end of the year Cheesy

It's really a shame for a team that is already known by the European arena, now in the 15th standings, the match has entered week 23, but Galatasaray is still at the bottom of the standings, Galatasaray has only scored 27 points, an unusual achievement, because Usually Galatasaray is a team that is subscribed to in the Champions League, but now Galatasaray are even mired in the bottom of the standings..

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Quote from: hollandalibaykus on February 03, 2022, 12:09:24 PM

We're seeing a different scoreboard this year than we've ever seen before. The best teams in the league got very bad scores, while the Anatolian teams are very good. I would love to have a team like Trabzonspor or Konyaspor become the champion. It will contribute to the development of football in these cities Cheesy

I feel very sorry for Galatasaray. Their current scores are quite low, I would like to see how many they can reach by the end of the year Cheesy

Even though some Anatolian teams got sort of good results, in general they are not playing well... Comparing many middle ranked Anatolian teams would give you similar results: Some good players, better management vs more bad players worse management. That's why it is so hard to bet for Turkish league in general. But this relativity is good as betting odds are rather high.

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We're seeing a different scoreboard this year than we've ever seen before. The best teams in the league got very bad scores, while the Anatolian teams are very good. I would love to have a team like Trabzonspor or Konyaspor become the champion. It will contribute to the development of football in these cities Cheesy

I feel very sorry for Galatasaray. Their current scores are quite low, I would like to see how many they can reach by the end of the year Cheesy

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Quote from: ingiltere on February 01, 2022, 07:04:20 AM

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Thanks for warning me, I edited and fixed my comment. I don't know why I remembered as cup match.

They were already eliminated to Denizlispor LOL. It was another 1. League team. The funny thing is Tuzlaspor beat Denizlispor in their league match as well. So Galatasaray lost cup game to a weaker team than Tuzlaspor and it's humiliated to concede six goals against Tuzlaspor even though it's just a friendly game. I don't think Torrent is happy about the game despite the score, they were awful. He already said his bags are ready and if bad results go on like that he can move. Galatasaray management failed so much this year.

Alanyaspor might be last nail in Torrent's coffin I agree with that. Compared to rivals Beşiktaş and Fenerbahçe, Galatasaray was actually going okayish at the start of the season. I feel like only with Fatih Terim effect they finished Europa League group at 1st place. But now they are mentally done so I think Torrent can't have enough confidence to his management from board or fans.

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Galatasaray management failed so quite this year. Galatasaray are one of the most out-of-form teams in the league now while Alanyaspor are one of the best teams currently. Also ıt is very poorly managed the transfer process by Galatasaray management. The future of Galatasaray scares me.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on February 01, 2022, 06:02:07 AM

I'm expecting Galatasaray to have big problems against Alanyaspor in the league next time. Galatasaray are one of the most out-of-form teams in the league now while Alanyaspor are one of the best teams currently. This is an away game for Galatasaray and I feel like there will be another loss for them here. Galatasaray are closing in to the relegation area step by step every week. After this game, they have three comfortable games actually before a very tough fixture. Galatasaray must win those three games first. Then, they will have a few tough league games in a row. At least, they can get prepared well for this fixture.

On contrary, I am expecting them to have one of the best performances they ever had this season, maybe even more than needed. This is their chance to actually have a chance and if they end up losing this game as well then things are not looking out for them at all, it is going to be terrible, but if they end up winning then they would have a small leeway and would definitely have a chance.

They are "better" than anyone in name, so it is not really that difficult for them to have a win, they spent so much money but when you look at their roster that doesn't look like they actually got anyone, in order to cover that back up, they need to have some decent finish, otherwise it is going to be terrible for them for the long term, bad for at least 2-3 years, but if they can finish at a decent place then they could recover a lot more quicker, this game is not their last chance but it is definitely a good turning point.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 01, 2022, 03:18:33 AM

Thanks for warning me, I edited and fixed my comment. I don't know why I remembered as cup match.

They were already eliminated to Denizlispor LOL. It was another 1. League team. The funny thing is Tuzlaspor beat Denizlispor in their league match as well. So Galatasaray lost cup game to a weaker team than Tuzlaspor and it's humiliated to concede six goals against Tuzlaspor even though it's just a friendly game. I don't think Torrent is happy about the game despite the score, they were awful. He already said his bags are ready and if bad results go on like that he can move. Galatasaray management failed so much this year.

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I'm expecting Galatasaray to have big problems against Alanyaspor in the league next time. Galatasaray are one of the most out-of-form teams in the league now while Alanyaspor are one of the best teams currently. This is an away game for Galatasaray and I feel like there will be another loss for them here. Galatasaray are closing in to the relegation area step by step every week. After this game, they have three comfortable games actually before a very tough fixture. Galatasaray must win those three games first. Then, they will have a few tough league games in a row. At least, they can get prepared well for this fixture.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on January 31, 2022, 04:27:28 AM

They have lost the last 4 matches in a row in Galatasaray. They have conceded 10 goals in these 4 matches. This suggests that the main problem in Galatasaray is a weak defense. Unless new talented players are added to the defense, their game will not improve.
Besiktas was out of the top 10 of the points table even a few weeks ago. But now they are the sixth team in the table. And if they win the next match, maybe they can go to the third place in the table. Galatasaray still has plenty of time. If they can strengthen their defense, maybe they will be in the top 10 of the table.

They definitely need to strengthen their defense so they don't have a chance to rank well in the league. Beşiktaş did not lose a match in the last few weeks and started to rise to the top.

I think one of the most important matches this week is the Konyaspor match. Their opponent is not strong, if they win this match easily, there will be only 6 points difference between them and Trabzonspor. Trabzonspor lost a lot of points in the last weeks

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Quote from: hahay on February 01, 2022, 02:01:00 AM

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After Galatasaray defeat to Tuzlaspor at Turkish cup I completely lost my trust on team and governing body. I mean things may go bad for teams, there may be issues that make you keep losing matches although there should be some crisis control that will help team to sort out things. Like relaxing players, I mean simple things. But Galatasaray fails with it.

It was just a friendly match of course, they only played to try out some strategies and I don't think the result of the match can be used as a benchmark. Anyway, Galatasaray basically still has a chance to stay in the safe zone in the Super Lig standings. But indeed, in the next match Galatasaray will play against Alanyaspor who is at the top of the standings, it is a tough match. I just hope that if Galatasaray can't win, at least Galatasaray should be able to make the match with the final score draw, because only then will Galatasaray still have hope of not falling into the relegation zone.

Thanks for warning me, I edited and fixed my comment. I don't know why I remembered as cup match. Even though its terrible and weird lose. Conceding 6 goals against lower league team. And it's not even good team there, just average. I personally think Galatasaray will definitely survive but it will be piece of cake for good team like Alanya. Its so sad to see Galatasaray having terrible weeks in league.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 01, 2022, 01:43:08 AM

After Galatasaray defeat to Tuzlaspor at Turkish cup I completely lost my trust on team and governing body. I mean things may go bad for teams, there may be issues that make you keep losing matches although there should be some crisis control that will help team to sort out things. Like relaxing players, I mean simple things. But Galatasaray fails with it.

It was just a friendly match of course, they only played to try out some strategies and I don't think the result of the match can be used as a benchmark. Anyway, Galatasaray basically still has a chance to stay in the safe zone in the Super Lig standings. But indeed, in the next match Galatasaray will play against Alanyaspor who is at the top of the standings, it is a tough match. I just hope that if Galatasaray can't win, at least Galatasaray should be able to make the match with the final score draw, because only then will Galatasaray still have hope of not falling into the relegation zone.

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After Galatasaray defeat to Tuzlaspor at friendly match I completely lost my trust on team and governing body. I mean things may go bad for teams, there may be issues that make you keep losing matches although there should be some crisis control that will help team to sort out things. Like relaxing players, I mean simple things. But Galatasaray fails with it.

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Quote from: justdimin on January 31, 2022, 02:08:03 PM

There are 38 games right? If I am not wrong that means there is 15 more games left, 45 possible points. Even if they could get like 30 of those, that is going to be midtable at the very worst case for them. It means around 2 points for each 3 point possibility, a lot of wins, a bit of draws and very few losses. Could they do that? They potentially could, if it was all about the roster then they wouldn't be able to go to next stage in europa, they are decent enough to go to next stage so they are capable of doing better in the league.

I don't think that Galatasaray will be able to achieve the mid-table position in this season. Yes, there are still 15 matches left but I think they are going to lose a lot of them. At least they haven't proven anything to you make me believe they are going to improve in this season. In my opinion, they will just be able to survive the last 4 spots.

Quote from: justdimin on January 31, 2022, 02:08:03 PM

The key word here is "capable", just because they are capable doesn't mean they will be able to do it. Just realize that they are not really doing something that they should be doing right now, and that shows that they suck at the league so they could also keep doing bad in the league as well. They may not relegate, but they do not feel like they will recover too much neither.

But the positive thing is the points difference is not really very big so they can go up really quickly if there win two or three games consistently. But, I don't think they will be able to perform consistently and the best scenario is that they might get 3-4 wins in the 15 matches left.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on January 31, 2022, 02:20:20 PM

There is an important derby at the weekend. Fenerbahçe is playing at home, they will host Başakşehir, which has not won four matches in the league. Başakşehir fell quite behind in the standings. They're going to want to take this game and go up in higher positions again. Fenerbahçe, on the other hand, goes back and forth. They couldn't achieve stability. Even though Fenerbahçe is the favourite, I think this match is open to all results.

This match is going to be really important for Başakşehir because if they can win this match they will be able to climb up the ladder.

But I also think that fenerbahçe is the favorite team to win. And also if they win they will be able to really challenge the top three positions.

You know, If any teams above lose they can even be in the top 3 after the next match win. And yes I also think that the matches are open to all results.

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It is really difficult to understand what is going on with Galatasaray now. They are continually losing in the Turkish Super League these days. And I saw the result of their last game which was a friendly against Tuzlaspor. They lost the game by a 2-6 score. I know that it was a friendly but Galatasaray had their main players as far as I saw in the game. Just how can you manage to do this? The problem must be growing every day now. And I've really no idea about what they should do to fix this.

This season is not a good one for Galatasaray, they are far behind on the standings. Their performance are terrible. Unlike last season, I don't even think they will be able to end this season at the top 4. They are currently at the 15th place, and also barely four points from the relegation zone. The only possible way for them to fix it things up is to probably rebuild their squad, while they also get a new experienced Coach. Because, it seems Domènec Torrent is not going a great job on the club.

Well all 3 top clubs are terrible this season somehow and its really wierd that in same time all 3 are terrible. I expected at least Besiktas to try and fight for the title but they are terrible as well. Trabzonspor has an amazing chance after 30 + years to win the title

Besiktas is having a really really bad season, no question about that. Especially the scoring side. Batshuayi is a good player and not playing too terrible but he is not what Besiktas needs as a striker. He might be a more suitable player for 4-4-2 for example, but not the current style Besiktas is playing. And also during the first maybe 5 or 10 games of the season, the referee decisions were incredibly but seriously incredibly bad. Besiktas was kinda kicked out from the competition, so to speak. Then the coach Sergen Yalcin was sacked or he wanted to resign, then Besiktas just lost the chance for title already. And also almost every player had injuries and missed some games. There was a time Besiktas couldn't find almost 11 players to play. My point is, it could be a Besiktas season again but the referee decisions and injuries prevented that.

From the current condition on the standings, it quite obvious that Trabzonspor have high possiblity of winning the Super Lig title this season. Their performance are indeed excellent, and they hardly lost their games. Also, Trabzonspor are keeping a nice points gap (9 points) from Konyaspor who are occupying the 2nd position. While, Besiktas performance lately are quite stable, they are probably improving. However, Fenerbahçe, who ended last season in the 3rd place are presently outside the top 4.

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There is an important derby at the weekend. Fenerbahçe is playing at home, they will host Başakşehir, which has not won four matches in the league. Başakşehir fell quite behind in the standings. They're going to want to take this game and go up in higher positions again. Fenerbahçe, on the other hand, goes back and forth. They couldn't achieve stability. Even though Fenerbahçe is the favourite, I think this match is open to all results.

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