Turkish Super League & 1. League 2021/22 Season - page 43.

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Quote from: justdimin on January 27, 2022, 05:09:53 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 26, 2022, 05:19:50 PM

It is the roster that was built basically. First of all the roster was not build for a specific system, it was build because players were young and cheap and that is why they got them. Now, that they are missing some players as well, and some players are playing badly, it became too obvious.

Muslera saved them from many losses before, he has been in the club for a long time and he has been helping them a lot, with him gone and a horrible goalkeeper, they ended up being even worse on that front.

Midfield is near empty, nobody to note on that place, and attacking is not horrible with kerem and mustafa when they play but when they do not, then nobody else can step up. Long story short roster is horrible, go get Pep to manage this team and he won't be able to do wonders with this team, he would be better than this, but not championship level at all.

It is totally understandable if the roster was bad, and it is not really good neither I can agree with that. But 15th? Just 3 points ahead of relegation zone? I mean yeah I would get like 8th or something like that on a bad season, but this roster is not deserving of 15th place at all.

I believe they could have been in top 10 easily without a problem. They should be thankful that they are not too far ahead of that top 10 place, if they have some winning streaks by the end of the season (which they will face a lot of great teams) then they could maybe get into top 10. Only 2 game difference between 9th and them, so they could still get there. In any case, Torrent didn't had a great start at all.

I think that the problem with this roster is there is not really good chemistry between the players and in the field which is affecting them a lot. With this roster as you said it is absolutely possible to be in the top 10 places but now it seems to be really hard for them. And 15th is just not good enough for them and they obviously have to do better. They need some wins very desperately. But it will be hard to do as they are going to play against some really good teams.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 26, 2022, 05:19:50 PM

It is the roster that was built basically. First of all the roster was not build for a specific system, it was build because players were young and cheap and that is why they got them. Now, that they are missing some players as well, and some players are playing badly, it became too obvious.

Muslera saved them from many losses before, he has been in the club for a long time and he has been helping them a lot, with him gone and a horrible goalkeeper, they ended up being even worse on that front.

Midfield is near empty, nobody to note on that place, and attacking is not horrible with kerem and mustafa when they play but when they do not, then nobody else can step up. Long story short roster is horrible, go get Pep to manage this team and he won't be able to do wonders with this team, he would be better than this, but not championship level at all.

It is totally understandable if the roster was bad, and it is not really good neither I can agree with that. But 15th? Just 3 points ahead of relegation zone? I mean yeah I would get like 8th or something like that on a bad season, but this roster is not deserving of 15th place at all.

I believe they could have been in top 10 easily without a problem. They should be thankful that they are not too far ahead of that top 10 place, if they have some winning streaks by the end of the season (which they will face a lot of great teams) then they could maybe get into top 10. Only 2 game difference between 9th and them, so they could still get there. In any case, Torrent didn't had a great start at all.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on January 26, 2022, 06:31:14 AM

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Galatasaray really need to improve their game immediately. I know that they are doing well in the Europa League. They have done more than just "well" actually. They finished the group stage as the leader in the end. Their performance was really mesmerizing. I watched them closely especially in the Marseille match that they got a huge win. But something is odd when it comes to the Super League. They've changed their manager but I think they shouldn't have done this. I don't think that the real problem is about the manager.

Well, they have changed their manager already and I think that now some new strategy and the change of authority is going to to help them in some ways.

But if it does not then they have to realize that the problem is not their manager but within themselves. They have to improve their game immediately and start bringing good results.

It is the roster that was built basically. First of all the roster was not build for a specific system, it was build because players were young and cheap and that is why they got them. Now, that they are missing some players as well, and some players are playing badly, it became too obvious.

Muslera saved them from many losses before, he has been in the club for a long time and he has been helping them a lot, with him gone and a horrible goalkeeper, they ended up being even worse on that front.

Midfield is near empty, nobody to note on that place, and attacking is not horrible with kerem and mustafa when they play but when they do not, then nobody else can step up. Long story short roster is horrible, go get Pep to manage this team and he won't be able to do wonders with this team, he would be better than this, but not championship level at all.

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Göztepe want Oğuzhan Özyakup from Beşiktaş but I don't think he would agree to go play there both financial and field reasons. He can't earn as much as he earns in Beşiktaş, he wouldn't leave İstanbul even though İzmir has also similar lifestyle standards. If Beşiktaş offer a new contract he would accept smaller contract as he didn't play much with his huge contract recent years. I can't believe Oğuzhan is still in his twenties, what a wasted career, he was very promising midfielder but last three seasons he didn't play much, he should've been in his prime years.

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Quote from: Distraction on January 25, 2022, 02:25:48 PM

Galatasaray really need to improve their game immediately. I know that they are doing well in the Europa League. They have done more than just "well" actually. They finished the group stage as the leader in the end. Their performance was really mesmerizing. I watched them closely especially in the Marseille match that they got a huge win. But something is odd when it comes to the Super League. They've changed their manager but I think they shouldn't have done this. I don't think that the real problem is about the manager.

Well, they have changed their manager already and I think that now some new strategy and the change of authority is going to to help them in some ways.

But if it does not then they have to realize that the problem is not their manager but within themselves. They have to improve their game immediately and start bringing good results.

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Galatasaray really need to improve their game immediately. I know that they are doing well in the Europa League. They have done more than just "well" actually. They finished the group stage as the leader in the end. Their performance was really mesmerizing. I watched them closely especially in the Marseille match that they got a huge win. But something is odd when it comes to the Super League. They've changed their manager but I think they shouldn't have done this. I don't think that the real problem is about the manager.

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Quote from: coderben on January 24, 2022, 02:48:54 PM

The nightmare persists for Galatasaray. They got another disappointing loss against Trabzonspor this time. Actually, they were doing good after getting 1-0 ahead in the match, but they couldn't increase the goal gap or keep the current score and lost by 1-2 in their home stadium. Trabzonspor consolidated their lead more. And Galatasaray have dropped down to the 15th place now. There is only a three-minute gap between them and the relegation area. They need to do something to solve this big problem otherwise we could even see Galatasaray in the second league all of a sudden.

After all, Trabzonspor this season has been very good by leading the table but indeed, I didn't expect about Galatasaray this season and maybe it can be said that this season was a bad season for Galatasaray in the Super Lig. Whereas, the previous season Galatasaray was able to place second place in the final standings and also, actually Galatasaray still looks fine in UEL this season by winning the group and that is a great achievement in the difficult situation faced in the Super Lig. Yes anyway, Galatasaray must immediately improve its performance because now the distance is getting closer to the relegation zone.

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Quote from: beerlover on January 24, 2022, 05:39:11 PM

Quote from: püsür on January 23, 2022, 03:10:16 PM

Trabzonspor beat Galatasaray in Istanbul 1-2 and the Trabzonspor's goals were at the last ten minutes. And the last score at the 90' minute was a huge mistake on Galatasaray's behalf. That kind of mistake from the defense is utterly unacceptable. Trabzonspor had a lot of chances to score and their goalkeeper did a good job. They deserved to win. Thus, Trabzonspor has 54 points in 23 games and Galatasaray has 27 points and at the 15th place in the standings. Only 3 points ahead of the 17th place, which is the danger zone. What a terrible season for Galatasaray.

If the score was 2-1 and I didn't know the game then I would guess that Galatasaray played even better than expected to be honest. Because Galatasaray is at relegation zone right now as you said which is a historical first, no top 3 team of the league ever went to lower league before and they are having historically the worst season of their entire existence.

However, Trabzon is also at the top of the league, and they are beating everyone and by far the leader, nobody is even close to them. So to see the score at 2-1, I would say galatasaray definitely played awesome. But when you watch the game, you see that it is even better than expected, if it wasn't for Ugurcan, Galatasaray would have been 3-0 ahead by the end of first half, they were that good. Obviously a few mistakes from a few players and suddenly they ended up losing which is a sad thing for them, but they should be proud of their improvement over the last few games even if the scores doesn't show it.

Watching the game, Galatasaray really seems like they could have done a lot better if they could convert some of the chances they created, and of course, they have created some really good chances.

A team that is fighting to stay out of the relegation zone did really impressive to show a play like that. But I have to say that they were unlucky at certain points.

Trabzonspor really looks to be unstoppable and leading the league with 9 points difference with the second team.

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Quote from: püsür on January 23, 2022, 03:10:16 PM

Trabzonspor beat Galatasaray in Istanbul 1-2 and the Trabzonspor's goals were at the last ten minutes. And the last score at the 90' minute was a huge mistake on Galatasaray's behalf. That kind of mistake from the defense is utterly unacceptable. Trabzonspor had a lot of chances to score and their goalkeeper did a good job. They deserved to win. Thus, Trabzonspor has 54 points in 23 games and Galatasaray has 27 points and at the 15th place in the standings. Only 3 points ahead of the 17th place, which is the danger zone. What a terrible season for Galatasaray.

If the score was 2-1 and I didn't know the game then I would guess that Galatasaray played even better than expected to be honest. Because Galatasaray is at relegation zone right now as you said which is a historical first, no top 3 team of the league ever went to lower league before and they are having historically the worst season of their entire existence.

However, Trabzon is also at the top of the league, and they are beating everyone and by far the leader, nobody is even close to them. So to see the score at 2-1, I would say galatasaray definitely played awesome. But when you watch the game, you see that it is even better than expected, if it wasn't for Ugurcan, Galatasaray would have been 3-0 ahead by the end of first half, they were that good. Obviously a few mistakes from a few players and suddenly they ended up losing which is a sad thing for them, but they should be proud of their improvement over the last few games even if the scores doesn't show it.

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The nightmare persists for Galatasaray. They got another disappointing loss against Trabzonspor this time. Actually, they were doing good after getting 1-0 ahead in the match, but they couldn't increase the goal gap or keep the current score and lost by 1-2 in their home stadium. Trabzonspor consolidated their lead more. And Galatasaray have dropped down to the 15th place now. There is only a three-minute gap between them and the relegation area. They need to do something to solve this big problem otherwise we could even see Galatasaray in the second league all of a sudden.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on January 24, 2022, 11:12:08 AM

Trabzonspor played such a game that they put everyone to sleep and won the match in the last minutes. Previously in Beşiktaş match, they got three points without playing anything. It is clear that they will be champions this year. Galatasaray should be careful so that they do not fall into the relegation. These things are no joke, four teams will be relegated this season. If such a situation occurs, probably relegation will be removed and Galatasaray will be saved. They don't let big teams go down.

I don't think Galatasaray will be relegated, but if they continue to lose more in the near future, then they may be relegated. In the Trabzon-Galatasaray match, I haven't seen such a simple mistake for a long time that the players on the carpet field do not make the mistake of the last goal of Galatasaray, they were really bad. Trabzonspor get points from konyaspor and Kasımpaşa matches, it seems like they guarantee the championship.

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Quote from: püsür on January 23, 2022, 03:10:16 PM

Trabzonspor beat Galatasaray in Istanbul 1-2 and the Trabzonspor's goals were at the last ten minutes. And the last score at the 90' minute was a huge mistake on Galatasaray's behalf. That kind of mistake from the defense is utterly unacceptable. Trabzonspor had a lot of chances to score and their goalkeeper did a good job. They deserved to win. Thus, Trabzonspor has 54 points in 23 games and Galatasaray has 27 points and at the 15th place in the standings. Only 3 points ahead of the 17th place, which is the danger zone. What a terrible season for Galatasaray.

Quote from: LGD2Business on January 24, 2022, 11:12:08 AM

Trabzonspor played such a game that they put everyone to sleep and won the match in the last minutes. Previously in Beşiktaş match, they got three points without playing anything. It is clear that they will be champions this year. Galatasaray should be careful so that they do not fall into the relegation. These things are no joke, four teams will be relegated this season. If such a situation occurs, probably relegation will be removed and Galatasaray will be saved. They don't let big teams go down.

Trabzonspor really took the match on the 80th minute and turned it on its head. I bet that Galatasaray thought they had the match till the 80th minute knowing that they scored from a penalty and thought themselves to be lucky.

But luck works both ways. That final mistake from Galatasaray defenders really cost them the match. Otherwise, they could have at least come out with one point. Now Trabzonspor seems to be really unbeaten and have a 9.6 lead over the second-place team.

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Trabzonspor played such a game that they put everyone to sleep and won the match in the last minutes. Previously in Beşiktaş match, they got three points without playing anything. It is clear that they will be champions this year. Galatasaray should be careful so that they do not fall into the relegation. These things are no joke, four teams will be relegated this season. If such a situation occurs, probably relegation will be removed and Galatasaray will be saved. They don't let big teams go down.

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Trabzonspor beat Galatasaray in Istanbul 1-2 and the Trabzonspor's goals were at the last ten minutes. And the last score at the 90' minute was a huge mistake on Galatasaray's behalf. That kind of mistake from the defense is utterly unacceptable. Trabzonspor had a lot of chances to score and their goalkeeper did a good job. They deserved to win. Thus, Trabzonspor has 54 points in 23 games and Galatasaray has 27 points and at the 15th place in the standings. Only 3 points ahead of the 17th place, which is the danger zone. What a terrible season for Galatasaray.

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Normally, there were dozens of them every week, but with a strange VAR decision, they took a penalty against Beşiktaş anyway. Everyone knows that such a penalty would not be awarded if it was in Beşiktaş's favor. The VAR referees thought, "What can we do to make Beşiktaş lose points," and they gave this cheap penalty. It was impossible for Malatyaspor to score a goal in the flowing game. As in the last three years, they could only score from penalty kicks. It is clear that they will be relegated, but they made an impact on the top of the league.

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Galatasaray have been on a very bad run for so many weeks and I don't know until when this will go on. Galatasaray must pull themselves together as soon as possible. Otherwise, they seem very likely to even relegate from the Super League by this performance and these results. Their next game is against Trabzonspor home. Interestingly, Galatasaray are favoured by bookmakers by a little gap. In case they beat the leader here, this would be a huge morale boost for them surely.

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They lost points in three teams in the championship race today. Adanademir spor defeated Karagümrük 5-0 and came to the third place in the Turkish league, other defeats were really good for adanademirspor. I want to see this team in the champions league next year, they showed a sufficient performance for this season, they can be much better.

Today's match results were as follows;

Yeni malatya 1-1 Beşiktaş
Adanademir 5-0 Karagümrük
Sivasspor 1-1 Fenerbahçe
Başakşehir 1-2 Göztepe

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 22, 2022, 11:08:34 AM

The main problem for Beşiktaş is finishing this season. We see same problem and that cost them two points. Beşiktaş was the dominant side of the game but they couldn't find second goal, also unlucky streak continue as their three shots hit the post. Batshuayi created the goal for Alex Teixeira but other than goal position Alex was pretty ineffective. Beşiktaş found too many chances but wasted generously. Yeni Malatyaspor scored from a controversial penalty decision and got undeserved one point. I can see them in 1. league next season already. They have no chance to stay out of relegation zone with this mentality.

Even though Besiktas only played against a team that in fact in the standings Yeni Malatyaspor was the team that was at the bottom, but Besiktas who had a better squad still couldn't take advantage of it to get full points. It's a shame of course, with this result Besiktas have to accept it and still have to fight harder to be able to place third, because for positions one and two I think it's difficult. So yes, however the competition for third and fourth place will continue as some teams have very close points gaps.

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The main problem for Beşiktaş is finishing this season. We see same problem and that cost them two points. Beşiktaş was the dominant side of the game but they couldn't find second goal, also unlucky streak continue as their three shots hit the post. Batshuayi created the goal for Alex Teixeira but other than goal position Alex was pretty ineffective. Beşiktaş found too many chances but wasted generously. Yeni Malatyaspor scored from a controversial penalty decision and got undeserved one point. I can see them in 1. league next season already. They have no chance to stay out of relegation zone with this mentality.

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Alanyaspor did an amazing job by defeating Hatayspor by 6-0. In the last years, we saw this kind of interesting results between these two teams. Galatasaray really need to sign a goalkeeper. The first shot on Galatasaray's goal ended up with a goal and this demoralized the players a lot. This caused players to start playing much worse.

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