Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 44.

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Quote from: xzone on January 26, 2023, 03:57:56 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 23, 2023, 11:48:14 PM

I honestly question why Mauro Icardi came to Türkiye. Like he has a foot similar to Drogba, he may be in top 10 in world if we compare finishers. I didn't see that good finishers even in world cup tournament last month. I guess only if his private life was better, he would be playing in top teams at England or Spain. Icardi will be one of obvious reasons for Galatasaray s success this year in long run. I expect him to score even lot more.

He has the capacity to play in much better teams, but playing in Turkey is a bit more comfortable than playing in other countries. He doesn't need to practice a lot or exert himself too much. There is a lot of competition in high-level football clubs and it is a little difficult to be an indispensable player in such a team. In Galatasaray, he is the king of this team, so it must be tempting to play here. He may also feel a little more comfortable with his personal life

I am pretty sure it was a bit about convincing as well. I mean if Galatasaray convinced him and PSG, then that is the reason, it's not like just picking the best team for you at all times, it's also about picking the best situation for you and how much incentives and leeway a team would give you.

If he asked for some stuff that was normally not acceptable from a player, like not join any training and just come from game to game, and Galatasaray accepted while nobody else did, that is all the information we need. Dude had some personal issues, and the team probably gave him time to handle all those as he wished as long as he was ready to play, and that was enough to go there.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 23, 2023, 11:48:14 PM

Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

I honestly question why Mauro Icardi came to Türkiye. Like he has a foot similar to Drogba, he may be in top 10 in world if we compare finishers. I didn't see that good finishers even in world cup tournament last month. I guess only if his private life was better, he would be playing in top teams at England or Spain. Icardi will be one of obvious reasons for Galatasaray s success this year in long run. I expect him to score even lot more.

He has the capacity to play in much better teams, but playing in Turkey is a bit more comfortable than playing in other countries. He doesn't need to practice a lot or exert himself too much. There is a lot of competition in high-level football clubs and it is a little difficult to be an indispensable player in such a team. In Galatasaray, he is the king of this team, so it must be tempting to play here. He may also feel a little more comfortable with his personal life

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Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 05:03:41 PM

Today there was a news about PSG wanting 25 million for Icardi, and Icardi wanting 8 million for his salary as well, which we all know Galatasaray, nor any other Turkish team could ever afford, that's just not possible.
I am not saying that is the end deal, that's the start of the negotiations and we could see more like 15 million to 6 million, which is quite possible, but even that would be too much, it would basically be a deal that will not profit them at all, Icardi could be bought for that much, which would be very very difficult and probably won't happen, but even if it does, they can't play him for a few seasons and then sell higher, they will make a loss on that deal, bad deal even though he is a great striker.

Totally agreed with you.
Galatasaray would need to use all they have to sign Icardi and even that might not be enough for signing him on a permanent deal now. After starting to show an impressive performance here his value has increased quite much of course. This has attracted PSG's attention directly. But at least Galatasaray might still be able to extend his loan contract. Icardi can't find much time to play at PSG in the end while Mbappe is there. I think Icardi could lean towards staying here as long as he is satisfied with his football and the success of the team.

I'd say Icardi's upside is being with Galatasaray. He is performing very well in the Galatasaray team. And the important thing is that he is consistently performing well. If he wants to return to the PSG team, I would say he will not get enough respect at PSG. Because PSG has bigger star players than Icardi. And so it will be difficult for Icardi to get a place in the main squad. Icardi should extend his contract with Galatasaray if he wants to perform regularly.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 24, 2023, 11:40:36 PM

Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 05:03:41 PM

Today there was a news about PSG wanting 25 million for Icardi, and Icardi wanting 8 million for his salary as well, which we all know Galatasaray, nor any other Turkish team could ever afford, that's just not possible.

I am not saying that is the end deal, that's the start of the negotiations and we could see more like 15 million to 6 million, which is quite possible, but even that would be too much, it would basically be a deal that will not profit them at all, Icardi could be bought for that much, which would be very very difficult and probably won't happen, but even if it does, they can't play him for a few seasons and then sell higher, they will make a loss on that deal, bad deal even though he is a great striker.

I think 25 million isn't that huge comparing his feet to many other strikers in European football (as we did in other posts). But can Galatasaray afford it? Well.. actually they can. But it means they need to give 2 good players (overall good player would be worth 10-12 million in average) to get 1. Not a good deal. I think with negotiations they can do 20. But its still too high. Board should try hard to make that value 15 so it may be more affordable.

I think he doesn't worth the 25 million request tag because if he was worth that much, he would be in a big league right now, not in galatasaray. I think 15 million is more likely, and that means if Galatasaray sells one of their good players like Kerem, and then the rest could be paid.

They could find a buyer for Kerem at around 10-12 like you said, and the rest would be fair to pay, salary would be a bigger problem, because it would be hard to pay 6-8 million for a single player, but he is one that they really need and he could change the team for better all by himself with how he is scoring and assisting. At that point all they need to find is a replacement for Kerem.

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I would guess that there is really no "need" to buy a player at Icardi level. As a Galatasaray fan myself, I have to say that it would be too ambitious to buy a player at his skill level, and someone a bit lower would be a lot better. I do not remember the last time any turkish team spent more than 10 million euro in any player, surely it has happened but its not that common. This is why I believe that we should have scouts looking for a great striker in a cheaper place rather than trying to buy a player from PSG. Its not because its impossible, there is a possibility of course, they could negotiate it down a bit and than sell a few players and so forth, but he is "too good" for the league to risk it all, I think someone less good and cheaper would be good enough. If we decide to buy him though, if we can achieve that, I hope he stays this good for a while, and doesn't suddenly become a bad player that keeps being "injured" and we don't have another disappointment.

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Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 05:03:41 PM

Today there was a news about PSG wanting 25 million for Icardi, and Icardi wanting 8 million for his salary as well, which we all know Galatasaray, nor any other Turkish team could ever afford, that's just not possible.

I am not saying that is the end deal, that's the start of the negotiations and we could see more like 15 million to 6 million, which is quite possible, but even that would be too much, it would basically be a deal that will not profit them at all, Icardi could be bought for that much, which would be very very difficult and probably won't happen, but even if it does, they can't play him for a few seasons and then sell higher, they will make a loss on that deal, bad deal even though he is a great striker.

Totally agreed with you.

Galatasaray would need to use all they have to sign Icardi and even that might not be enough for signing him on a permanent deal now. After starting to show an impressive performance here his value has increased quite much of course. This has attracted PSG's attention directly. But at least Galatasaray might still be able to extend his loan contract. Icardi can't find much time to play at PSG in the end while Mbappe is there. I think Icardi could lean towards staying here as long as he is satisfied with his football and the success of the team.

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Quote from: püsür on January 25, 2023, 11:44:34 AM

I'm very torn about Beşiktaş. It seems like they can be very successful, and at the same time it seems like they can't be very successful with the football they have shown so far. If Ghezzal and Aboubakar can play in their full form, they still have a chance. This Alanya match and the coming weeks are very important. It would be very good for Beşiktaş if they can get through with little or no loss of points. In the remaining matches, they will go out of Istanbul only 4 times. This is a good advantage for Beşiktaş.

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There is an obvious change since Şenol Güneş came. 5 wins and 1 draw in the last 7 games. They lost Galatasaray derby but that can be understandable. Nobody can do miracles. Valerien Ismael was pretty bad. It is actually good that Beşiktaş still have a chance. At least they can go to europe next year.

Playing only 4 matches outside of İstanbul until the end of the season is a really big fixture advantage. It should be used well. It's necessary to win most of the home games. It's necessary to survive the away games in İstanbul with little damage. If so, a draw may be enough in Trabzon and Adana matches. The team must continue the winning streak because the opponents at the top don't lose points. There is no reason to be hopeless. If we look at it match by match, getting 9 points out of 3 matches in a week allows us to see the situation more optimistically. Alanyaspor, Karagümrük and Sivasspor are opponents that Beşiktaş can beat, although it's difficult.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 24, 2023, 05:54:41 AM

In Friday this week Beşiktaş will have tough exam against Alanyaspor. Anyaspor is missing Jure Balkovec because of yellow card limit. I am expecting Beşiktaş to surprise us all this time. Alanyaspor is a team that likes to play the ball. That means Alanyaspor will give some positions back in defence line. Beşiktaş may try to play counter attack football as Aboubakar may shine with it. I feel like Şenol hoca will try various strategies from now on to shape his final squad. I still believe he will be successful to make Beşiktaş better team.

I'm very torn about Beşiktaş. It seems like they can be very successful, and at the same time it seems like they can't be very successful with the football they have shown so far. If Ghezzal and Aboubakar can play in their full form, they still have a chance. This Alanya match and the coming weeks are very important. It would be very good for Beşiktaş if they can get through with little or no loss of points. In the remaining matches, they will go out of Istanbul only 4 times. This is a good advantage for Beşiktaş.

There is an obvious change since Şenol Güneş came. 5 wins and 1 draw in the last 7 games. They lost Galatasaray derby but that can be understandable. Nobody can do miracles. Valerien Ismael was pretty bad. It is actually good that Beşiktaş still have a chance. At least they can go to europe next year.

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ghayas zahid (ankaragucu midfielder) became the only scorer in the ankaragucu vs konyaspor match. with this narrow victory (1-0), ankaragucu can stay a little away from the relegation zone.

Quote from: Slow death on January 23, 2023, 06:44:32 PM

this Fenerbache is looking like old and old cars that are very tired when the person goes from one place to another with the car, the car always has a breakdown in the middle of the way, so the person fixes the car, but after going through a A short distance away the car breaks down again, this is the same situation as Fenerbache, in this game they were lucky, but the question will be until when will they always have the same luck.
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even though umraniye is at the bottom of the super-lig standings at the moment but Fenerbahce looks quite difficult to face umraniye (even though fenerbahce dominated the match and won 2-1). I agree with you, without any changes it will be impossible for Fenerbahce to win this season, Ucar must be able to find other strategies so that his team can return to their best performance.

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Quote from: redsun114 on January 24, 2023, 05:03:41 PM

Today there was a news about PSG wanting 25 million for Icardi, and Icardi wanting 8 million for his salary as well, which we all know Galatasaray, nor any other Turkish team could ever afford, that's just not possible.

I am not saying that is the end deal, that's the start of the negotiations and we could see more like 15 million to 6 million, which is quite possible, but even that would be too much, it would basically be a deal that will not profit them at all, Icardi could be bought for that much, which would be very very difficult and probably won't happen, but even if it does, they can't play him for a few seasons and then sell higher, they will make a loss on that deal, bad deal even though he is a great striker.

I think 25 million isn't that huge comparing his feet to many other strikers in European football (as we did in other posts). But can Galatasaray afford it? Well.. actually they can. But it means they need to give 2 good players (overall good player would be worth 10-12 million in average) to get 1. Not a good deal. I think with negotiations they can do 20. But its still too high. Board should try hard to make that value 15 so it may be more affordable.

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Today there was a news about PSG wanting 25 million for Icardi, and Icardi wanting 8 million for his salary as well, which we all know Galatasaray, nor any other Turkish team could ever afford, that's just not possible.

I am not saying that is the end deal, that's the start of the negotiations and we could see more like 15 million to 6 million, which is quite possible, but even that would be too much, it would basically be a deal that will not profit them at all, Icardi could be bought for that much, which would be very very difficult and probably won't happen, but even if it does, they can't play him for a few seasons and then sell higher, they will make a loss on that deal, bad deal even though he is a great striker.

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In Friday this week Beşiktaş will have tough exam against Alanyaspor. Anyaspor is missing Jure Balkovec because of yellow card limit. I am expecting Beşiktaş to surprise us all this time. Alanyaspor is a team that likes to play the ball. That means Alanyaspor will give some positions back in defence line. Beşiktaş may try to play counter attack football as Aboubakar may shine with it. I feel like Şenol hoca will try various strategies from now on to shape his final squad. I still believe he will be successful to make Beşiktaş better team.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 23, 2023, 11:48:14 PM

Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

I honestly question why Mauro Icardi came to Türkiye. Like he has a foot similar to Drogba, he may be in top 10 in world if we compare finishers. I didn't see that good finishers even in world cup tournament last month. I guess only if his private life was better, he would be playing in top teams at England or Spain. Icardi will be one of obvious reasons for Galatasaray s success this year in long run. I expect him to score even lot more.

I would say Icardi is one of the best strikers in the world. He is capable of scoring a lot of goals if he gets enough support from other players in the team. Galatasaray's main striker is Icardi. And this season he is showing excellent performance. He scored 6 goals and 4 assists in 9 matches in Galatasaray's jersey. He is consistently able to play well. And Icardi's performance has helped Galatasaray top the points table this season. Galatasaray's performance will not suffer if Icardi is not suffering from injury.

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Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

I honestly question why Mauro Icardi came to Türkiye. Like he has a foot similar to Drogba, he may be in top 10 in world if we compare finishers. I didn't see that good finishers even in world cup tournament last month. I guess only if his private life was better, he would be playing in top teams at England or Spain. Icardi will be one of obvious reasons for Galatasaray s success this year in long run. I expect him to score even lot more.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on January 23, 2023, 05:47:01 PM

Quote from: Sirait on January 23, 2023, 08:23:55 AM

Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

Galatasaray has only lost 2 times, so they deserve to be at the top of the Super Lig, but yesterday's match against Antalyaspor was very fierce, if Floranus didn't score an own goal then Galatasaray's chances of winning are very small, really lucky for Galatasaray.

how ironic even Fenerbache won with an own goal in the last minutes of their match against Umraniyespor who are at the bottom of the league, very lucky win for Fenerbache but also very important.

this Fenerbache is looking like old and old cars that are very tired when the person goes from one place to another with the car, the car always has a breakdown in the middle of the way, so the person fixes the car, but after going through a A short distance away the car breaks down again, this is the same situation as Fenerbache, in this game they were lucky, but the question will be until when will they always have the same luck.

even before the stop for the world cup they were playing very well, but for some reason that I don't know since they rotated the games they don't play well anymore, they have no conditions to become champions unless they change

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Quote from: Sirait on January 23, 2023, 08:23:55 AM

Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

Galatasaray has only lost 2 times, so they deserve to be at the top of the Super Lig, but yesterday's match against Antalyaspor was very fierce, if Floranus didn't score an own goal then Galatasaray's chances of winning are very small, really lucky for Galatasaray.

how ironic even Fenerbache won with an own goal in the last minutes of their match against Umraniyespor who are at the bottom of the league, very lucky win for Fenerbache but also very important.

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Another tough win for fenerbahce team with a score of 2 1, it seems that in every game they are the better team and they dominate but they only manage to score few of the chances they have and conceid goals almost in every game i think the most negative aspect of the team is that they rely only on few players like valencia, batshuayi and king if those are not on a good shape all the team stop functioning, they need some solutions soon i think the managet might be the problem.

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It is understandable for Galatasaray to be top of the league after such momentum, but they looked not so great this week, if they were playing a stronger team this week then they would have lost to them. In any case, they need to figure out a way to keep most of these players for a longer period of time.

Everyone is reacting like Icardi is a great signing but he is on loan at Galatasaray, and Mustafa Mohamed was the only striker they had at a proper age and talent, and yet he was loaned out, which means if he is sold and Icardi returns to PSG, that means that they will be left with no strikers at all yet again. They need to figure that out at the very least.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 22, 2023, 01:32:16 PM

Beşiktaş got what they wanted from the Kayserispor match today. Their performance was quite decent and they could have scored more goals as well. Redmond's goal was really impressive as his shot was such a decent one and it was really fast at the same time. He is a player who played in the Premier League and this shot had some similarities with his times there.
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Redmond scored a really good goal in the match against Kayserispor, but he fell far short of expectations this season. I think Beşiktaş will not transfer him at the end of the season. He returns to Southampton when his contract expires.

Fenerbahçe will play an important game tonight. If they make a mistake against their weak rival Ümraniyespor, they can lose all the psychological advantage to Galatasaray. I think Fenerbahçe will win this match and they will continue to follow Galatasaray...

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Quote from: xzone on January 22, 2023, 03:50:05 PM

Icardi's performance was great again, Galatasaray is trying very hard to score points. Maybe he will not be the top scorer, but I think he will continue to score good goals in the most critical matches. If Galatasaray succeeds in becoming the champion, the impact of icardi will be huge.
I like the form of the team right now, I think Galatasaray is one of the best playing teams in Turkey. If they make new signings, the team will be much better

Galatasaray has only lost 2 times, so they deserve to be at the top of the Super Lig, but yesterday's match against Antalyaspor was very fierce, if Floranus didn't score an own goal then Galatasaray's chances of winning are very small, really lucky for Galatasaray.

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