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Quote from: CLS63 on January 20, 2023, 02:36:10 PM

There has been an update on the championship odds. It looks like Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have the same odds for the league title. After seeing last a few weeks in the league I would have expected bookmakers to show Galatasaray as the biggest favourite. But they still don't make such change despite the gap of four points in the standings.

Of course this gap is not very big and Fenerbahçe can catch up with them if they fight harder than now. They need to focus on increasing their win rate in big matches especially. They lost two such matches recently and it cost them this.

Fenerbahçe plays very well in home matches. They generally get easy 3 points all the time. Galatasaray on the other, doesn't even play in consistent mood. Sometimes Galatasaray fucks up first half by conceding goal after goal. I think these may be main reasons for them to have similar odds. Fenerbahçe can go better if they take 1st rank back. Galatasaray can mess themselves even if they stay leader. These are my ideas.

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 20, 2023, 04:15:38 PM

It's a big achievement to make 31 shots and only 6 shots went on goal. Adana Demirspor didn't even deserve to get 1 point in this match. Giresunspor played with 10 players for 72 minutes and finished the match in a draw. At the end of the league, maybe Giresunspor will stay in the league with this 1 point. That was important. Adana Demirspor's time in the top three has expired. Now, teams like Beşiktaş, Başakşehir and Trabzonspor will pass them and come to the place they deserve.

One of the most interesting stats I've ever seen. Probably if non-professional players were on the field and took this many shots, they would have scored a lot more goals than that. They couldn't score almost throughout the match, and they managed to beat this bad luck in the last minutes.
It was a very good match for Giresunspor. They could have won the match had the goalkeeper not acted so early in the counterattack position in the 41st minute Cheesy

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 18, 2023, 09:19:49 PM

You are right, Galatasaray is playing very well and now they are at the top of the table. But I think it is foolish to think that Galatasaray will win the title. Each team played only 18 matches. And they will play 18 more matches. There is no guarantee that Galatasaray will be able to continue their streak in the next 18 matches. Also played very well at Fenerbahçe. They are second in the table though. However, the performance of their players is excellent now. I Bulls Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are equally likely to win the title.

If you were asked to choose which team would win the Super Lig title, which team would you prefer? Galatasaray or Fenerbahce? Of course, without looking at the current situation in the standings. Personally, I think Fenerbahce will win the Super Lig. There's no particular reason other than the consistency of their recent performance.

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It's a big achievement to make 31 shots and only 6 shots went on goal. Adana Demirspor didn't even deserve to get 1 point in this match. Giresunspor played with 10 players for 72 minutes and finished the match in a draw. At the end of the league, maybe Giresunspor will stay in the league with this 1 point. That was important. Adana Demirspor's time in the top three has expired. Now, teams like Beşiktaş, Başakşehir and Trabzonspor will pass them and come to the place they deserve.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title.

I also believe that Galatasary will be the champion. Because Fenerbahçe started the season very well, but their performance has been declining in recent weeks. Actually, they are playing with the same tactic but losing points. In this case, there may be two problems. First, opponents may have figured out Jorge Jesus' tactic. Secondly, it can be a problem with conditioning training. The failures of football teams in Turkey are blamed on the coaches under all circumstances. If the bad results in the last weeks are repeated, Fenerbahçe may move away from the championship race. In this case, no one will stand behind Jorge Jesus. If Fenerbahçe can't be champion, Jesus' Fenerbahçe career may end early.

After terrible end of last season now having amazing fight back into this season specially just after 18th round they are leading by four points from second spotted Fenerbahçe which is not good enough for having chance to win this year good change of quality and performance by Galatasaray with this all now they can improve their quality for the next season's Champions League spot as well because they are having experienced players and good winning combination which can keep this momentum for leading the league table and win title this season.

Their attack is strong enough which can destroy any defense in Turkish League with in every match they are doing the good number of goals and their defense is also having good players which are doing impressive job now in tomorrow they are going to host Antalyaspor which not able to win any match from their last five games could be easy win for Galatasaray.

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There has been an update on the championship odds. It looks like Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have the same odds for the league title. After seeing last a few weeks in the league I would have expected bookmakers to show Galatasaray as the biggest favourite. But they still don't make such change despite the gap of four points in the standings.

Of course this gap is not very big and Fenerbahçe can catch up with them if they fight harder than now. They need to focus on increasing their win rate in big matches especially. They lost two such matches recently and it cost them this.

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Anyone watched the match between Adana Demirspor vs Giresunspor? Try to pay attention to the match statistics in the first half
I think Adana Demirspor has the opportunity to equalize the score or even win this match, besides that, Giresunspor also plays with 10 players
But strangely Sportbook offers Handicap -0.5 Is this a trap? honestly this is suspicious Cheesy

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Quote from: ingiltere on January 15, 2023, 06:52:29 PM

These late winners are huge boost for big clubs. A lot of the time they found a way to score and pressure comes with results. Valencia did that today for Fenerbahçe. He's a top striker, 15 league goals in 15 games, 1 per game, great statistics. Scoring a winner in extra time is more precious of course.
Fenerbahçe could've lost two points today. I'm sure Galatasaray fans were devastated. They almost got whole psychological advantage. Still a long way to go though.

It is a great boost for Fenebahce morale yes but the problem is that Galatasaray is leading the way with 4 points advantage and this year they look like they have found the missing consistency of the other years.I think that it will be a difficult battle for both teams as 4 points are nothing,the team which will be more consistent and will not look to the result of the other team but will try to win every game most likely will be Superlig Champions during this season.The Superlig will be played between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce,the other teams are a bit left behind and I don't think there is enough room left for them to change things around considering the form of the two teams at the top of the standings.

I would like to say that both Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have performed very well this season. Fenerbahçe is four points behind Galatasaray and second in the table. But I don't see any way to say Fenerbahçe is a weak team. They are currently the top scorers in the Super League. They scored 44 goals in 18 matches. And so the fight for the title at Fenerbahçe looks set to continue until the last match of the season.

the truth is that Fenerbahçe is not well, you just have to see that in their last game against Gaziantep they had 70% of ball possession and were the first to score a goal after 8 minutes, something that even looked like they would easily win a match since Gaziantep are not a stable and strong team, but to the great surprise Fenerbahçe conceded a goal and to make matters worse in the 70th minute the Gaziantep player had a red card but until the end of the game Fenerbahçe was not managing to score a goal, that bothered me leads to understand how Fenerbahçe is not prepared to win the league

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title.

I also believe that Galatasary will be the champion. Because Fenerbahçe started the season very well, but their performance has been declining in recent weeks. Actually, they are playing with the same tactic but losing points. In this case, there may be two problems. First, opponents may have figured out Jorge Jesus' tactic. Secondly, it can be a problem with conditioning training. The failures of football teams in Turkey are blamed on the coaches under all circumstances. If the bad results in the last weeks are repeated, Fenerbahçe may move away from the championship race. In this case, no one will stand behind Jorge Jesus. If Fenerbahçe can't be champion, Jesus' Fenerbahçe career may end early.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?
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They do not like the transfer policies of the president of Fenerbahçe. I really don't remember watching a quality striker in Fenerbahce in the last two or three years. Quality forwards and playmakers such as Anelka and Alex played in this team before. The fans are angry because they don't see the same quality players.

Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

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Doesn't really look like it to be fair, looks like they have good team, but for some reason twitter fans are quite angry at the president. Also another thing I learned, Turkish teams do not have "owners", they have presidents who are elected, that is actually amazing, wish our teams were like that too.

I don't know where are you from. However, elected presidents do not care about their mistakes. In addition, they act populist and make plenty of transfers without thinking about the financial statement. That's why almost all Turkish clubs are struggling with debt. The Turkish Football Federation has put transfer limits on clubs in recent years. The government supports the survival of the clubs by removing some of their taxes. So, elected presidents don't deliver as good results as they seem.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on January 18, 2023, 09:19:49 PM

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?

How can you agree that Galatasaray will win the Super Lig title? I see that there is no significant difference in the Süper Lig standings, the gap in points between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is still small (only 4 points different). This means that there are still many possibilities that will occur, we'll never know if it turns out that Istanbul Basaksehir will win the league.

You are right, Galatasaray is playing very well and now they are at the top of the table. But I think it is foolish to think that Galatasaray will win the title. Each team played only 18 matches. And they will play 18 more matches. There is no guarantee that Galatasaray will be able to continue their streak in the next 18 matches. Also played very well at Fenerbahçe. They are second in the table though. However, the performance of their players is excellent now. I Bulls Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are equally likely to win the title.

Galatasaray is in best position and has the best team on paper and they are showing it in the league. But not all teams can keep momentum in the league all the time so we can see a drop in their form soon. But they are looking currently the best and it will be a race between them and Fenerbahce until the very end.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?

How can you agree that Galatasaray will win the Super Lig title? I see that there is no significant difference in the Süper Lig standings, the gap in points between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is still small (only 4 points different). This means that there are still many possibilities that will occur, we'll never know if it turns out that Istanbul Basaksehir will win the league.

You are right, Galatasaray is playing very well and now they are at the top of the table. But I think it is foolish to think that Galatasaray will win the title. Each team played only 18 matches. And they will play 18 more matches. There is no guarantee that Galatasaray will be able to continue their streak in the next 18 matches. Also played very well at Fenerbahçe. They are second in the table though. However, the performance of their players is excellent now. I Bulls Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are equally likely to win the title.

It's more about how the teams look and not the results today. If galatasaray had an 11 game winning streak and still 3rd or something because they lost all their games before that, then it would make sense to not trust it, but it would be the same result because they are playing so well, they would have a chance to win the title. I am just saying that they figured something out, and that means they are doing fine and could win it.

Other teams are not playing as well as Galatasaray does, nobody had 11 game winning streak, doubt many had 5 in a row, which is why it's quite important to acknowledge how good they are, and why they could end up winning it this year.

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Quote from: MAAManda on January 17, 2023, 10:25:52 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?

How can you agree that Galatasaray will win the Super Lig title? I see that there is no significant difference in the Süper Lig standings, the gap in points between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is still small (only 4 points different). This means that there are still many possibilities that will occur, we'll never know if it turns out that Istanbul Basaksehir will win the league.

You are right, Galatasaray is playing very well and now they are at the top of the table. But I think it is foolish to think that Galatasaray will win the title. Each team played only 18 matches. And they will play 18 more matches. There is no guarantee that Galatasaray will be able to continue their streak in the next 18 matches. Also played very well at Fenerbahçe. They are second in the table though. However, the performance of their players is excellent now. I Bulls Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are equally likely to win the title.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 18, 2023, 04:01:00 AM

Both Fenerbahce and Galatasaray will play against relatively weaker or bad performing teams this week. (Umraniyespor and Antalyaspor). One would directly guess that they will secure clean wins without conceding a goal. But it should be noted that teams are getting tired with this tight fixture. League happening like twice a week, cup also happening in any empty spot. Players may have injuries. Some teams may lose concentration because they are tired also. Open for surprises.

I think teams could find replacing players at these stages. Like for example younger players could get the positions and with that type of help they could keep winning but also have a chance to get the fitness back up. I am not saying this weeks league games should be played with younger talent to give others a chance to take a break, but the cup games should be like that.

If you are however wondering why they are not, there isn't any European games yet, Galatasaray is not in any of them and Fener still has some time to go, which is why it's obvious that we are not going to see them get tired with only league and cup games that quickly, will probably take some time.

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Both Fenerbahce and Galatasaray will play against relatively weaker or bad performing teams this week. (Umraniyespor and Antalyaspor). One would directly guess that they will secure clean wins without conceding a goal. But it should be noted that teams are getting tired with this tight fixture. League happening like twice a week, cup also happening in any empty spot. Players may have injuries. Some teams may lose concentration because they are tired also. Open for surprises.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2023, 01:59:24 PM

I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?

How can you agree that Galatasaray will win the Super Lig title? I see that there is no significant difference in the Süper Lig standings, the gap in points between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is still small (only 4 points different). This means that there are still many possibilities that will occur, we'll never know if it turns out that Istanbul Basaksehir will win the league.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on January 17, 2023, 02:56:42 AM

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Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both haven't been able to become the league champions for a while. But the situation is worse for Fenerbahce of course. Because it is eight seasons for Fenerbahce while it is three for Galatasaray. For now Galatasaray are heavily favourite for the league title to tell the truth. As long as they keep this performance level it will be very difficult to catch up with them for any team. We all watched how they played against Fenerbahce in an away match in the end.

This means Fenerbahce would finish another season without championship. Fenerbahce fans must be really frustrated about this. But Jorge Jesus is still giving good signals for the future if he stays at the team.

I think it is very hard to guess now who will title at the end of season. But my favourite was Galatasaray for last 10 matches, not only because I am fan of them. Their performance gradually got better. But they also have some critical issues they need to fix within transfer season.
On the other hand Fenerbahce has one of the best midfield in league. But their motivation seems lacking. Maybe its about their 8 year miss of championship title.

It is difficult for Super Lig teams to keep up consistent good performances and win. However, Galatasaray are now performing well and have managed to continue their winning streak. So it is being said that the favorite team for the title so far is Galatasaray. Galatasaray is 4 points ahead of Fenerbahçe. But if Galatasaray lose trucks and drop points in a few games, we might see Fenerbahçe at the top of the table. Although it is difficult to predict which team will be champions this season, Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray are the main contenders for the title.

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I do agree that Galatasaray will win the title. And there is another situation where Fener is losing not just because of the team or the manager, but because of the president so it seems. I do not know who he is, but from twitter I can see a lot of fenerbahce fans are angry at him, looking at the team they are pretty expensive, but maybe they bought uselessly expensive players or something?

Doesn't really look like it to be fair, looks like they have good team, but for some reason twitter fans are quite angry at the president. Also another thing I learned, Turkish teams do not have "owners", they have presidents who are elected, that is actually amazing, wish our teams were like that too.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on January 16, 2023, 03:51:20 PM

Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both haven't been able to become the league champions for a while. But the situation is worse for Fenerbahce of course. Because it is eight seasons for Fenerbahce while it is three for Galatasaray. For now Galatasaray are heavily favourite for the league title to tell the truth. As long as they keep this performance level it will be very difficult to catch up with them for any team. We all watched how they played against Fenerbahce in an away match in the end.

This means Fenerbahce would finish another season without championship. Fenerbahce fans must be really frustrated about this. But Jorge Jesus is still giving good signals for the future if he stays at the team.

I think it is very hard to guess now who will title at the end of season. But my favourite was Galatasaray for last 10 matches, not only because I am fan of them. Their performance gradually got better. But they also have some critical issues they need to fix within transfer season.
On the other hand Fenerbahce has one of the best midfield in league. But their motivation seems lacking. Maybe its about their 8 year miss of championship title.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 16, 2023, 03:24:19 PM

Quote from: ingiltere on January 15, 2023, 06:52:29 PM

These late winners are huge boost for big clubs. A lot of the time they found a way to score and pressure comes with results. Valencia did that today for Fenerbahçe. He's a top striker, 15 league goals in 15 games, 1 per game, great statistics. Scoring a winner in extra time is more precious of course.
Fenerbahçe could've lost two points today. I'm sure Galatasaray fans were devastated. They almost got whole psychological advantage. Still a long way to go though.

It is a great boost for Fenebahce morale yes but the problem is that Galatasaray is leading the way with 4 points advantage and this year they look like they have found the missing consistency of the other years.I think that it will be a difficult battle for both teams as 4 points are nothing,the team which will be more consistent and will not look to the result of the other team but will try to win every game most likely will be Superlig Champions during this season.The Superlig will be played between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce,the other teams are a bit left behind and I don't think there is enough room left for them to change things around considering the form of the two teams at the top of the standings.

I would like to say that both Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray have performed very well this season. Fenerbahçe is four points behind Galatasaray and second in the table. But I don't see any way to say Fenerbahçe is a weak team. They are currently the top scorers in the Super League. They scored 44 goals in 18 matches. And so the fight for the title at Fenerbahçe looks set to continue until the last match of the season.

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