Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season - page 92.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on October 24, 2023, 02:13:57 AM

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Trabzonspor managed to win with a score of 1-0 in the first match with its new (old) coach, but the luck factor was on their side in this match. Especially Alanyaspor was very effective in the first half. They could not evaluate the positions they found. After Alanyaspor scored an own goal, Trabzonspor found positions. 1 to Trabzonspor in the match. And Alanyaspor's ball hit the post. Nicholas Pepe, once a record signing for Arsenal, entered the game in the 86th minute. It looked very far from football. It's like football left Pepe

Trabzonspor is like a last chance for Pepe. He should use this chance well and play well in Trabzonspor. He was playing great before Arsenal, and he can prove himself again if he plays in Trabzonspor to provide continuity in this regard. He may consider this as a challenge to his own success.

He is a football player who came at the beginning of the year and still has not become a direct 11 player. He was very good before Arsenal, but the serious injury he suffered while at Arsenal seriously affected him. I don't think he will play in Trabzonspor because the Turkish league is a hard league. If I were him (if money was not involved), I would go to softer leagues. To leagues like the Dutch or Belgian league. I hope he returns to his old days.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on October 24, 2023, 02:11:10 AM

Trabzonspor managed to win with a score of 1-0 in the first match with its new (old) coach, but the luck factor was on their side in this match. Especially Alanyaspor was very effective in the first half. They could not evaluate the positions they found. After Alanyaspor scored an own goal, Trabzonspor found positions. 1 to Trabzonspor in the match. And Alanyaspor's ball hit the post. Nicholas Pepe, once a record signing for Arsenal, entered the game in the 86th minute. It looked very far from football. It's like football left Pepe

Trabzonspor is like a last chance for Pepe. He should use this chance well and play well in Trabzonspor. He was playing great before Arsenal, and he can prove himself again if he plays in Trabzonspor to provide continuity in this regard. He may consider this as a challenge to his own success.

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Trabzonspor managed to win with a score of 1-0 in the first match with its new (old) coach, but the luck factor was on their side in this match. Especially Alanyaspor was very effective in the first half. They could not evaluate the positions they found. After Alanyaspor scored an own goal, Trabzonspor found positions. 1 to Trabzonspor in the match. And Alanyaspor's ball hit the post. Nicholas Pepe, once a record signing for Arsenal, entered the game in the 86th minute. It looked very far from football. It's like football left Pepe

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Quote from: Spack17 on October 23, 2023, 04:28:58 PM

Fenerbahce have been very productive since the start of the season. They have nearly an average of 3 goals per match in the Super League now. They really destroyed Hatayspor by 4-2 as well and answered strongly after Galatasaray's win in the derby match. Szymanski and Dzeko are still in great shape now.

It looks like it has been really worth paying nearly 10 million euros for Szymanski. He is one of the players with the highest level of contribution to the team at the moment.

Szymanski, Dzeko and Dusan Tadic were among the names that contributed the most to the team, but İrfan Can Kahveci, who could not provide this efficiency in the squad last year, also shows extra performance. This year we can talk about him as if he were a new transfer, he has become a completely different player. The free kick goal he scored in the last match was also very good. They are now like a destroyer, with 17 wins in 17 matches, both in Turkey and in European matches.

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I would say Galatasaray didn't play very well but Galatasaray won the derby. I was expecting this result because Galatasaray has a very strong squad and Beşiktaş has a very weak lineup this season. Mert made a big mistake and Mert's touch the ball. I think that the red card given to Mert was also the right decision. After Besiktas goalkeeper Günok received a red card, thus, things went even worse for Beşiktaş, which already had a weak squad. The most important point about the match is Icardi's injury. I hope he gets better quickly.

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Fenerbahce have been very productive since the start of the season. They have nearly an average of 3 goals per match in the Super League now. They really destroyed Hatayspor by 4-2 as well and answered strongly after Galatasaray's win in the derby match. Szymanski and Dzeko are still in great shape now.

It looks like it has been really worth paying nearly 10 million euros for Szymanski. He is one of the players with the highest level of contribution to the team at the moment.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 23, 2023, 10:33:00 AM

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Galatasaray won the derby. Obviously, there was a red card in the derby, as I expected, but it was an early red card that broke the match early. Mert Günok got a very unnecessary red card which led to an early break for Beşiktaş. Icardi's goal gave Galatasaray a 1-0 lead and Galatasaray managed to close the first half 1-0 ahead. In the second half, Besiktas continued to press and equalized in the 69th minute through Chamberlain. In the 82nd minute Icardi scored from the penalty spot. I must say that Galatasaray dominated the match in terms of possession but both teams were equal in terms of possession.

Galatasaray was lucky to win the match even though the lead was only thanks to penalty.
Besiktas is pretty great team here and they have also dominated the league for several seasons even in the 2020/21 season Besiktas were able to become champions of the Turkish Super League.
And Galatasaray victory in this match was due to nothing other than the penalty they received.

But Mauro Icardi really draw attention.
Even though this player from Argentina is 30 years old he can play like great young player.
I don't know formerly why Inter and PSG just let him go and the presence of Mauro Icardi really provides a big advantage for Galatasaray.

Mauro Icardi has really become a goal machine since his transfer to Galatasaray. He can score goals with ease and has managed to win his team most of the matches so far. Thanks to him they got the 3 points in this derby as well. If it wasn't for him, maybe they would have had a big problem in front of goal until now. Now there is talk that his injury will last for 2 weeks. If he doesn't play for 2 weeks, Galatasaray will have problems in front of goal.

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Fenerbahçe has made the best start to this season in recent years. With his victory, he broke his own record with 9 wins out of 9 in the league. Previously, Daum had made 8 out of 8 when he was a coach.
He scored 4 goals against Hatayspor, but found positions that could have scored more. The penalty position, which was canceled due to offside, became a matter of discussion. Even though Galatasaray is playing bad football right now, it knows how to win. Icardi's injury in the last match demoralized the team. Icardi has bleeding and strain on his foot. It is unclear whether he will play in the Bayer Munich match.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on October 22, 2023, 04:49:15 PM

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Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

It's not easy for such an inexperienced coach to manage a big team. He shouldn't forget that he is there temporarily. He'll lose credit by making simple mistakes. He needs to start this job by coaching Anatolian teams. For now, he is managing for a short period, but Beşiktaş cannot work with Burak Yılmaz in its long-term planning. While many successful managers are free in the market, they will definitely bring someone in after the election. A Turkish manager is a must for our teams. Foreigners cannot become champions here.

He has played for big teams and worked with good coaches. He is aware of many techniques in many teams but I have my doubts about his ability to manage a big team. The management who left this team without a manager even before the middle of the league will be to blame rather than simple mistakes. I am not a Beşiktaş fan but to tell the truth, the blame lies with the management, not Şenol Güneş. The management sent Şenol Güneş away without resigning and the team was left under Burak Yılmaz. I don't know if they will continue with him as technical director, but I can say that Igor Tudor's name is being mentioned again.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 21, 2023, 01:18:18 PM

Galatasaray won the derby. Obviously, there was a red card in the derby, as I expected, but it was an early red card that broke the match early. Mert Günok got a very unnecessary red card which led to an early break for Beşiktaş. Icardi's goal gave Galatasaray a 1-0 lead and Galatasaray managed to close the first half 1-0 ahead. In the second half, Besiktas continued to press and equalized in the 69th minute through Chamberlain. In the 82nd minute Icardi scored from the penalty spot. I must say that Galatasaray dominated the match in terms of possession but both teams were equal in terms of possession.

Galatasaray was lucky to win the match even though the lead was only thanks to penalty.
Besiktas is pretty great team here and they have also dominated the league for several seasons even in the 2020/21 season Besiktas were able to become champions of the Turkish Super League.
And Galatasaray victory in this match was due to nothing other than the penalty they received.

But Mauro Icardi really draw attention.
Even though this player from Argentina is 30 years old he can play like great young player.
I don't know formerly why Inter and PSG just let him go and the presence of Mauro Icardi really provides a big advantage for Galatasaray.

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Quote from: Spack17 on October 21, 2023, 05:42:27 PM

Icardi's performance wasn't surprising as usual. He made a critical contribution to Galatasaray with 2 goals. He was in quite many goal chances as well. He is really the key player for Galatasaray this season as he has scored the half of their goals in number so far. It was quite a one-sided match most of the time.

Besiktas were just focused on benefiting from their numbered goal chances and they were quite good at it. Rosier did his best and he was nearly scoring the equalizer if he didn't miss the ball by a small margin. The referee's decisions are also going to be discussed a lot as it seems. Grin

Some believe those decisions were right while some say the opposite.

I actually want to talk about the next match of Galatasaray, which is against Bayern Munich. I am pretty confident that Galatasaray will probably not be able to win that match. I think a draw is not going to be a bad score for them. Of course, depending on the situation they will go for the win. But they will have to be careful because Bayern Munich is performing really well. I do not want anyone to get any wrong idea about them just because they are not the first team on the table. And right now they have a deadly striker, Harry Kane. Galatasaray will have to be careful, even though they are in very good form.

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Quote from: püsür on October 23, 2023, 09:15:48 AM

Beşiktaş was surprisingly better than almost everyone's expectations.

I disagree on this issue, if you ask why, because Beşiktaş was not good, Galatasaray was very bad. If Galatasaray had played well, this game would have ended very differently. I mean, Beşiktaş looked good because Galatasaray was bad.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 22, 2023, 11:02:08 AM

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Judging by the football played, Beşiktaş could have at least drawn yesterday's derby, but an early red card and a forced goalkeeper change upset all plans. We can say that Beşiktaş withstood Galatasaray well despite being down to ten men because Galatasaray didn't play very well in the derby match, even though they had a lot of chances, they couldn't capitalize on them and couldn't make up the difference. It's a sad result for Beşiktaş, as I said, they could have left with at least a draw and this draw could have been really important for them.

I think manager change benefits Beşiktaş a lot. Şenol Güneş had a bit of outdated strategy for football of 2020s. Burak Yılmaz managing team is not bad idea as we have similar formula with Nuri Şahin and Antalyaspor and it sort of works. Newbie managers tend to be lot more fair to hardworking football players. In modern football physical is lot more important than technique as most of teams play match as its endless adventure. (Especially premier league teams have high tempo). I think Beşiktaş will soon get lot better than yesterday.

I'm afraid you are right. I want to like Şenol Güneş and I wish he could be successful in Beşiktaş but he obviously wasn't. He couldn't affect the game with substitutions good enough. He was always late. Even thought there is an obvious player who is having a terrible day, Şenol Güneş usually didn't substitute until the very late minutes. Burak Yılmaz is super inexperience as a coach but he was not bad for his first games. Even better than other coaches from the past, especially the non-turkish coaches. It is very questionable if he can overcome this much of a challenge as a coach of Big 3. But Beşiktaş was surprisingly better than almost everyone's expectations.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 22, 2023, 02:59:54 PM

Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

It's not easy for such an inexperienced coach to manage a big team. He shouldn't forget that he is there temporarily. He'll lose credit by making simple mistakes. He needs to start this job by coaching Anatolian teams. For now, he is managing for a short period, but Beşiktaş cannot work with Burak Yılmaz in its long-term planning. While many successful managers are free in the market, they will definitely bring someone in after the election. A Turkish manager is a must for our teams. Foreigners cannot become champions here.

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We watched a very bad derby yesterday, I didn't enjoy it. I was expecting a better game.
Galatasaray was very bad, we barely won 2-1. Icardi showed his quality again.
Beşiktaş played better with 10 players.

Fenerbahçe won 4-2, Fenerbahçe conceded both goals easily.
In the second goal, Samet made the wrong pass and they conceded a goal.

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Quote from: xzone on October 22, 2023, 01:24:20 PM

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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.

You made a correct observation, Galatasaray actually uses a penalty kick in almost every match. It would be a little unfair if we said it was only due to the referees. Galatasaray has a very good offensive line and is currently one of the teams that score the most goals. It would not be wrong to say that in some matches they scored extra goals thanks to the referees' decisions

Here I have to be agreed about few points with now they need to work on improvement in quality instead of going for the poor tactics which are surely going to hurt them in UEFA games in this game they have nearly 10 shots on goal but still manage nothing which is surely embarrassing for them now they have big game against Bayern Munich which is surely a big test for them and here they need to give their best instead of going for the penalties which are surely not going to happen in presence of neutral referee.

Besiktas having early red-card which was surely helpful for them, but they are unable to take any advantage with having second goal through penalty as they have offensive they surely can do the good number of goals without the help of the referee and this could be improved the confidence level of players as well.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on October 22, 2023, 11:02:08 AM

I think manager change benefits Beşiktaş a lot. Şenol Güneş had a bit of outdated strategy for football of 2020s. Burak Yılmaz managing team is not bad idea as we have similar formula with Nuri Şahin and Antalyaspor and it sort of works. Newbie managers tend to be lot more fair to hardworking football players. In modern football physical is lot more important than technique as most of teams play match as its endless adventure. (Especially premier league teams have high tempo). I think Beşiktaş will soon get lot better than yesterday.

Beşiktaş can maybe improve its football with Burak yılmaz.You say that Şenol Güneş can't keep up with the new fashion football, but I think Şenol Güneş still manages the team well.The problem in the team was caused by the management, but the bill was cut to the technical director.I think it's not fair to compare Nuri Şahin and Burak yılmaz.Nuri Şahin is about to become a technical man with more experience and experience.

Quote from: Docnaster on October 22, 2023, 11:10:43 AM

After Besiktas goalkeeper Günok received a red card in the 30th minute of the game while his team was already one goal down, I thought Galatasaray were gonna riot against their derby rivals. Besiktas really surprised me with their performance in that game and even drew level in the 69th minute through Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain strike.
Mauro Icardi had to score in the 82nd minute to break Besiktas resilience and hand Galatasaray a win in that very important game. Galatasaray of a truth won that game but Besiktas I think should be very proud of their performance in that game

Beşiktaş's shortage of men prevented them from turning the game around.Nevertheless, we can say that they were close to getting 1 point with the football they played and the performance they showed when they were down to 10 men.Beşiktaş might have had the chance to turn the game in their favor in the second half if they had not been down to 10 men.It was an unfortunate red card for Mert Günok.The goalkeeper, who has not seen a red card for many years, saw the first red card in his career.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 22, 2023, 12:17:01 PM

Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.

You made a correct observation, Galatasaray actually uses a penalty kick in almost every match. It would be a little unfair if we said it was only due to the referees. Galatasaray has a very good offensive line and is currently one of the teams that score the most goals. It would not be wrong to say that in some matches they scored extra goals thanks to the referees' decisions

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 22, 2023, 12:17:01 PM

Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less.

After Beşiktaş were reduced to 10 men due to a red card, Galatasaray players became complacent. If this match had been played 11 v 11, Galatasaray would have performed better. Also, because of the break in the league matches due to the national matches, we lost our tempo and I think this had a negative effect on Galatasaray. So Galatasaray didn't play very well. I agree with this criticism, but they still managed to win the match. I think the important thing was to win. And Galatasaray did that. The match against Bayern Munich is an important match for us. The players may not have been able to concentrate on this game because their minds were on that game. In the end, winning was more important than anything else. When you win, you get the same points whether you play well or badly.

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Big win for Galatasaray in the result and for the tournament, but not so good in terms of performance, you cant strugled so much against a team with one men less. Aside of that how many penalties have Galatasaray this season? man every game they receive one.

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