Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season - page 87.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 07, 2023, 05:35:20 AM

There is nothing to say about this game. There is definitely match-fixing.

This is not only happening in the league. It has spread all over the country and I accept it as normal because most of them go unpunished.
If one of them is solved, all of them will be solved.

I saw a tweet on Twitter some days ago showing that someone from Bulgaria (if I'm not wrong this was the place) bet 475k Turkish Liras on Tuzlaspor and won 4m 750k Turkish Liras. After that people were talking about the match saying how interesting Keçiörengücü goalkeeper was playing in this match. It looks like there was really some match-fixing for this match.

Indeed there have been so many examples all around the world. I don't know if we would see these things removed from the sports permanently in the future.

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In the matches played yesterday, Gaziantep FC defeated Rizespor 2-0 at home and managed to get 3 points. In a match that went in the balance, the home team made better use of the positions they found and won. After Sumudica took charge of the team again, Gaziantep seems to be in a bit of a recovery process. Rizespor, on the other hand, suffered 3 consecutive defeats with this loss.
In the match between the out of form team of the last weeks, Alanyaspor and Kayserispor, the home team won the match with a single goal and got an important 3 points. Kayserispor, who played dominantly at home and continued to get good results in the league, managed to increase its score to 19 with this win, while Alanyaspor suffered its 5th defeat in the last 6 weeks with this defeat.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 06, 2023, 04:50:55 PM

Turkish football was shaken when match-fixing involving Tuzlaspor in the 1st League was revealed. I have been shouting here for years that Turkish football needs a clean hands operation. For years, match-fixing has been happening everywhere, from the lowest league to the top league, the Super League. Everyone who does this, turns a blind eye to this, and tries to cover it up must be punished. Otherwise, this disgraceful league cannot be improved. Do you want it to continue as a trashy league that no one watches, or do you want it to be cleaned up? I hope the match-fixing situation that started with Tuzlaspor spreads to the entire league and all the dirt is revealed. The political and other dimensions of the matter should also be clarified.

There is nothing to say about this game. There is definitely match-fixing.

This is not only happening in the league. It has spread all over the country and I accept it as normal because most of them go unpunished.
If one of them is solved, all of them will be solved.

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Turkish football was shaken when match-fixing involving Tuzlaspor in the 1st League was revealed. I have been shouting here for years that Turkish football needs a clean hands operation. For years, match-fixing has been happening everywhere, from the lowest league to the top league, the Super League. Everyone who does this, turns a blind eye to this, and tries to cover it up must be punished. Otherwise, this disgraceful league cannot be improved. Do you want it to continue as a trashy league that no one watches, or do you want it to be cleaned up? I hope the match-fixing situation that started with Tuzlaspor spreads to the entire league and all the dirt is revealed. The political and other dimensions of the matter should also be clarified.

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In all the matches played yesterday, the teams managed to score goals against each other. Three matches ended in draws while one match was won by the home team.
If I start with the Sivasspor Adana Demirspor match, we can say that this was a match in which both teams found plenty of positions but it was a barren match in terms of goals. The first goal was scored by the hosts Sivasspor but both teams failed to score. The away team Adana Demirspor, who played a dominant football in the first half, played worse in the second half, but managed to score in the second half and get a point in this away match.
In the Başakşehir Ankaragücü match, there was no winner in the goal duel. Emre Belözoğlu was the opponent this time against his former team. Since he knew his former players well, he managed to get a point away from Ankaragücü. Ankaragücü started the match fast and scored in the second minute to take a 1-0 lead, but the first half ended 2-2 with consecutive goals. The away team, who started the second half well, took the lead with a goal early in the second interval, but the home team scored the decisive goal.

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Quote from: xzone on November 06, 2023, 11:00:26 AM

It is interesting that they conceded so many goals in such a short time, Beşiktaş needs to recover as soon as possible. If they continue to play like this, we will not see them succeed. Of course, the referees have a great influence on the match, but after the team scores a goal, they lose their temper and their morale drops greatly. They need to prevent this

If we consider that in full time they conceded three goals in just less than 15 minutes, this was the most embarrassing conceding for them because the time difference was shorter.
As time went by Besiktas experienced decline and now it is more difficult for them to win matches and this decline began after the 2020/21 season won the title.
In fact, it is quite shame that team that is considered big and quite strong like Besiktas is experiencing several problems that are affecting the quality of their game.

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Quote from: xzone on November 06, 2023, 11:00:26 AM

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The truth of the matter is that Besiktas hasn't been up and doing like their rivals Fenerbahce and Galatasaray since the start of the season and I don't think it's necessary comparing the three clubs with Besiktas because it is obvious that Besiktas can't match the latters' performance and form this season.
Fenerbahce who for the first time lost a league game last weekend are the only capable team at the moment to challenge Galatasaray fir the Turkish Super Lig title this season if you ask me.

Fenerbahce and Galatasaray in the last few seasons have been the two teams that have dominated the League and both tend to be more stable than Besiktas.
Fenerbahce lost to Trabzonspor but it was quite humiliating defeat because they lost on their own turf.
This defeat was big opportunity for Galatasaray to move up to first place even though it was only by very narrow point difference.

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Quote from: xzone on November 06, 2023, 11:00:26 AM

It is interesting that they conceded so many goals in such a short time, Beşiktaş needs to recover as soon as possible. If they continue to play like this, we will not see them succeed. Of course, the referees have a great influence on the match, but after the team scores a goal, they lose their temper and their morale drops greatly. They need to prevent this

The truth of the matter is that Besiktas hasn't been up and doing like their rivals Fenerbahce and Galatasaray since the start of the season and I don't think it's necessary comparing the three clubs with Besiktas because it is obvious that Besiktas can't match the latters' performance and form this season.
Fenerbahce who for the first time lost a league game last weekend are the only capable team at the moment to challenge Galatasaray fir the Turkish Super Lig title this season if you ask me.

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It is interesting that they conceded so many goals in such a short time, Beşiktaş needs to recover as soon as possible. If they continue to play like this, we will not see them succeed. Of course, the referees have a great influence on the match, but after the team scores a goal, they lose their temper and their morale drops greatly. They need to prevent this

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 05, 2023, 04:10:19 PM

Besiktas dropping points again and again, i dont know why they lose so many points so early in the tournament, i was expecting to see them at least in a solid third position but seems like not.

Galatasaray rettook the leadership and adana took over the third position.

Beşiktaş have never really been on the same level as Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe. They won league titles in seasons when Galatasaray and Fenerbahce were very bad. That's why you have to accept their performance as normal. In a season when Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are very good, they don't stand a chance.

Quote from: Pierre 2 on November 05, 2023, 04:11:40 PM

I wasn't expecting Fenerbahçe to lose this match to be honest because I believe Trabzonspor wasn't that good this season at all. But looks like Fenerbahçe is tired now. Its pretty normal considering they won numerous matches. All teams will lose one day. It benefited Galatasaray a lot. Now Galatasaray hit first place which they deserved. On the other hand Beşiktaş is still terribly losing matches and points.

Fenerbahçe had won all 10 games in the league and had a psychological advantage. Now we have seen that they are not gods. Now Galatasaray are on top. Now Galatasaray have the psychological advantage.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 05, 2023, 04:49:18 PM

Beşiktaş didn't see any benefit from going into the half with a 1-0 advantage when they conceded a goal in the 25th second of the second half. It was even a minus, Antalyaspor started the second half very well with the morale of the equalizing goal. They scored 3 goals in 12 minutes and made a completely different start in the second half of the match where they couldn't find any positions in the first half. In the first half, Beşiktaş had a clear penalty that wasn't awarded. We are used to these now, we are not given a penalty every match. Unfortunately, as long as there are these referees in the league, the league's viewing rates will continue to fluctuate. The brand value of the league has dropped to zero.
Despite everything, there is no excuse for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes. When Beşiktaş concedes a goal, they break away from the game very quickly. Points were lost because of this mental weakness. There was hope with Muleka's goal, but the third goal didn't come. The match shouldn't have come to this in the first place. With this loss of points, we can say that there is no claim left in the league. It's time to finish the league in 3rd place and prepare for the next season with a good rebuilding.

It is kind of a rumour but even Burak Yilmaz talked about it, the things happened during the half time break might be the reason. The fight and all the trouble within the club. Things are utterly devastating for Beşiktaş. I heard that the players who will play in the African Cup said 'they will not play, they will just rest. Because they are already out of the championship race'. This is unbelievable. It all starts from the club president. This is the worst president of Beşiktaş's history. With the Africa Cup of Nations coming soon, things will not be good for Beşiktaş definitely in my opinion. The coach Burak Yilmaz, might have a good heart, but he also was just playing pro football. A club like Beşiktaş definitely needs a proper coach.

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There is absolutely no explanation for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes.
Yes, there is a penalty that was not given but conceding 3 goals is inexplicable.
Beşiktaş is playing really badly and they have to suffer the consequences.

They have a Europa League game on Thursday but that is not important for them anymore.
They should definitely focus on the Süper League.

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Beşiktaş didn't see any benefit from going into the half with a 1-0 advantage when they conceded a goal in the 25th second of the second half. It was even a minus, Antalyaspor started the second half very well with the morale of the equalizing goal. They scored 3 goals in 12 minutes and made a completely different start in the second half of the match where they couldn't find any positions in the first half. In the first half, Beşiktaş had a clear penalty that wasn't awarded. We are used to these now, we are not given a penalty every match. Unfortunately, as long as there are these referees in the league, the league's viewing rates will continue to fluctuate. The brand value of the league has dropped to zero.
Despite everything, there is no excuse for conceding 3 goals in 12 minutes. When Beşiktaş concedes a goal, they break away from the game very quickly. Points were lost because of this mental weakness. There was hope with Muleka's goal, but the third goal didn't come. The match shouldn't have come to this in the first place. With this loss of points, we can say that there is no claim left in the league. It's time to finish the league in 3rd place and prepare for the next season with a good rebuilding.

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I wasn't expecting Fenerbahçe to lose this match to be honest because I believe Trabzonspor wasn't that good this season at all. But looks like Fenerbahçe is tired now. Its pretty normal considering they won numerous matches. All teams will lose one day. It benefited Galatasaray a lot. Now Galatasaray hit first place which they deserved. On the other hand Beşiktaş is still terribly losing matches and points.

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Besiktas dropping points again and again, i dont know why they lose so many points so early in the tournament, i was expecting to see them at least in a solid third position but seems like not.

Galatasaray rettook the leadership and adana took over the third position.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 05, 2023, 09:02:21 AM

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Leaving aside the referee and his management, Fenerbahce didn't really play well in the match.Although they always managed to keep the ball at their feet, they struggled to get to the goal, that is to say to shoot at the goal.Every ball came back to the defender and they had to keep trying.In the first half it was clearly a penalty against Szymanski and all the commentators and former referees said that it was a penalty according to the IFAB rule.Of course we can't forget this match because of the referee's bad management.These things happen so that mistakes can be learned from.

Unexpected defeat recorded by Sarı Kanaryalar, know the main reason they lost the match contest? They underestimate their opposition without having second thought of playing under pressure. There's no need to call for alarm, because it's not easy to officiate a game fulltime in a fair play without making certain mistakes. Fenerbahçe fans should reduced their complaints towards Kucok Zorbay for the purpose of the referee to secure his job. Fenerbahçe did play well but they just got unlucky against Trabzonspor at Şükrü Saracoĝlu Stadı. Losing 3-2 on the scoresheet despite full dominance in both halves of the game.

I don't think they underestimated their opponents. The lack of the main players in the team disrupted the balance in the team. I can say that Fred had an incredible impact on the team. The stoppers weren't very good either, in fact one player played as a fullback but he played as a stopper. Miha Zajc, who replaced Fred, had a terrible game and goals were conceded because of him and Oostorwolde and Samet at the back.
By the way, Fenerbahce didn't play well but in some positions most of the Trabzonspor players should have been red carded.

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I didn't think Fenerbahçe would lose points this week. I don't like Trabzonspor's game this year, I never thought they would win the match against such a big opponent. But last night, Fenerbahçe gave 3 points to its opponent, they could not manage to score other than the penalty.
Galatasaray fans were the most happy about this situation, and Galatasaray took over the leadership seat, where there was such a big conflict, for a week

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Even though Beşiktaş, playing with 7 Turkish players, had difficulty in creating goal positions, they scored a goal with Cenk Tosun at the last minute and the preparation of the goal was very good. Antalyaspor has no impact on the match. They couldn't get into a goal position, they couldn't shoot. They only had one shot that didn't find the target in the first half. On the other hand, Beşiktaş took 8 shots, two of which were on target and one was a goal. Beşiktaş should have been more productive, but now they have unlocked the defense and Antalyaspor will have to take more risks in the second half. Beşiktaş can get into a goal position easier. They need to score the second goal in the match and win the match. There are Rebic and Muleka on the bench. Rosier looks like he could play for 45 minutes. Injuries affected the squad, but as it is, this squad should be enough to win the match.

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Quote from: execijutiere on November 05, 2023, 07:06:33 AM

Leaving aside the referee and his management, Fenerbahce didn't really play well in the match.Although they always managed to keep the ball at their feet, they struggled to get to the goal, that is to say to shoot at the goal.Every ball came back to the defender and they had to keep trying.In the first half it was clearly a penalty against Szymanski and all the commentators and former referees said that it was a penalty according to the IFAB rule.Of course we can't forget this match because of the referee's bad management.These things happen so that mistakes can be learned from.

Unexpected defeat recorded by Sarı Kanaryalar, know the main reason they lost the match contest? They underestimate their opposition without having second thought of playing under pressure. There's no need to call for alarm, because it's not easy to officiate a game fulltime in a fair play without making certain mistakes. Fenerbahçe fans should reduced their complaints towards Kucok Zorbay for the purpose of the referee to secure his job. Fenerbahçe did play well but they just got unlucky against Trabzonspor at Şükrü Saracoĝlu Stadı. Losing 3-2 on the scoresheet despite full dominance in both halves of the game.

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Galatasaray supporters must be very happy now after the result of the Fenerbahce - Trabzonspor match. I didn't expect such result in this match truthfully. I thought it would be another comfortable win for Fenerbahce. Because you know how poorly Trabzonspor were playing before this match. Even after bringing back Abdullah Avci they were still not able to improve much.

But we watched a very different team in this tough match. Despite its being one of the toughest fixtures for Trabzonspor they still managed to shock most people.

I mean Trabzonspor didn't even have any dominance in terms of general performance. But they were very good at benefiting from their numbered goal chances.

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Super League continues today with 4 matches. The first match was played between Sivasspor and Adana Demirspor at 13:30 and ended in a 1-1 draw. 15 minutes later, there will be two more matches between Başakşehir-Ankaragücü and Konyaspor-Karagümrük. At 7pm, there will be another match between Antalyaspor vs Besiktas. If Beşiktaş wins this match, they will be in 3rd place with 22 points and I hope they win. But they are playing really badly this year.

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